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Around the NBA: 2020-21 Season

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Re: Around the NBA: 2020-21 Season 

Post#761 » by bulls_troy » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:40 pm

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@Pacers: Caris LeVert will be out indefinitely after an MRI revealed a small mass on his left kidney during a physical prior to finalizing the four-team trade. LeVert will undergo further medical tests and more details will follow as needed.
https://t.co/3HSGQLXTvD

Ugh, this sucks. Hope everything turns out OK.


Does this put the deal in jeopardy even though Harden is playing in his Nets debut now?
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Re: Around the NBA: 2020-21 Season 

Post#762 » by Grodoboldo » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:46 pm

AirLaVine8 wrote:
Grodoboldo wrote:
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@Pacers: Caris LeVert will be out indefinitely after an MRI revealed a small mass on his left kidney during a physical prior to finalizing the four-team trade. LeVert will undergo further medical tests and more details will follow as needed.
https://t.co/3HSGQLXTvD

Ugh, this sucks. Hope everything turns out OK.


Does this put the deal in jeopardy even though Harden is playing in his Nets debut now?


I don't think so, at least from what was reported Indiana just received additional compensation.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/261217/Pacers-Receive-Cash-Additional-Second-Round-Pick-After-Issue-With-Caris-LeVert-Physical
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Re: Around the NBA: 2020-21 Season 

Post#763 » by MisterRoy » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:56 pm

Harden is playing with the Nets right now. The deal is done.


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Re: Around the NBA: 2020-21 Season 

Post#764 » by R3AL1TY » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:15 am

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R3AL1TY wrote:LeBron isn't going to sit back and watch superteams get formed elsewhere. Rumorville has it that the Lakers and couple other teams are interested in Bradley Beal.

But what do they have to deal for Beal? They've got no picks, no young star and nothing really of value to a rebuilding team. It's nice to want beal but the guy in their price range is oladipo.

They would have to use an additional team or two to be part of the deal. The only young guys on their roster I see with value are Kuzma and THT, but they'll have to give up Pope and Schroeder to have enough room for Beal.
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Re: Around the NBA: 2020-21 Season 

Post#765 » by Dresden » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:21 am

Why would they do an MRI of the kidney area for a routine physical?
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Post#766 » by TheStig » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:49 am

R3AL1TY wrote:
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R3AL1TY wrote:LeBron isn't going to sit back and watch superteams get formed elsewhere. Rumorville has it that the Lakers and couple other teams are interested in Bradley Beal.

But what do they have to deal for Beal? They've got no picks, no young star and nothing really of value to a rebuilding team. It's nice to want beal but the guy in their price range is oladipo.

They would have to use an additional team or two to be part of the deal. The only young guys on their roster I see with value are Kuzma and THT, but they'll have to give up Pope and Schroeder to have enough room for Beal.

But what team is giving up a better asset to get Kuzma or THT? It just doesn't make sense. Miami is somewhere I can see Beal ending up.
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Post#767 » by ZOMG » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:58 am

Dresden wrote:Why would they do an MRI of the kidney area for a routine physical?


Could be that he was having some symptoms in that area and they thought it might have been a muscle issue.
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Re: Around the NBA: 2020-21 Season 

Post#768 » by Hangtime84 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:00 am

Nikola Vučević is probably the type of center the bulls need

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Re: Around the NBA: 2020-21 Season 

Post#769 » by DASMACKDOWN » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:13 am

Chris Boucher has been a BEAST this year.

Bigtime production in only 22 mins per game.
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Re: Around the NBA: 2020-21 Season 

Post#770 » by R3AL1TY » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:23 am

TheStig wrote:
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TheStig wrote:But what do they have to deal for Beal? They've got no picks, no young star and nothing really of value to a rebuilding team. It's nice to want beal but the guy in their price range is oladipo.

They would have to use an additional team or two to be part of the deal. The only young guys on their roster I see with value are Kuzma and THT, but they'll have to give up Pope and Schroeder to have enough room for Beal.

But what team is giving up a better asset to get Kuzma or THT? It just doesn't make sense. Miami is somewhere I can see Beal ending up.

Could be a scenario like:

LA out: future 1st, kuzma, THT, Pope, Schroeder
Wash out: Beal + Smith + Hachimura
Team 3: future 1st + filler

LA in: Beal + Smith
Wash in: LA's first, team 3 first, Kuzma, THT, Schroder, filler
Team 3 in: Pope + Hachimura

But like you said, if a team like Miami has a better deal, then LA won't matter.
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Re: Around the NBA: 2020-21 Season 

Post#771 » by Repeat 3-peat » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:23 am

Harden: 32 pts, 14 ast, 12 rebs
Durant: 42 points.

Yea the Nets are going to be a problem.
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Post#772 » by R3AL1TY » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:31 am

Repeat 3-peat wrote:Harden: 32 pts, 14 ast, 12 rebs
Durant: 42 points.

Yea the Nets are going to be a problem.

If Kyrie stops being a rebel with a confused cause, that's 70-100 pts a night from these 3 players easily.
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Re: Around the NBA: 2020-21 Season 

Post#773 » by Leslie Forman » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:33 am

MrSparkle wrote:The one specific time where I think Ainge should've just gone for it, was when MIN had to move Butler. Hayward plus Rozier would've gotten it done

I don't see why Minnesota would have done that. Hayward was negative value back then, and the deal would have been really complicated. He was making something like $10mil more than Jimmy and had more years left. Minnesota would have been pretty much guaranteeing they'd be in the luxury tax once KAT's deal kicked in, too. No way they do that for a washed up looking Hayward. Rozier's value was pretty much nonexistent too then.

Jimmy's value might have gone down, but it was still positive. A Covington+Saric package had solid value back then.

People were actually trashing Ainge the most for not getting Paul George, and then later Kawhi. Theoretically, he could have given up Brown and Tatum to put together Kyrie/PG/Kawhi…imagine Kawhi trying to deal with Kyrie :rofl:
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Re: Around the NBA: 2020-21 Season 

Post#774 » by R3AL1TY » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:38 am

The Nets main problem though is they can't stop most teams. They have to play high scoring games where they have the most points.
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Post#775 » by imagge » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:56 am

R3AL1TY wrote:The Nets main problem though is they can't stop most teams. They have to play high scoring games where they have the most points.



Should never be a problem with 2 of arguably top 3 scorers in the league plus another top 10 scorer....along with the best FT getters ever
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Re: Around the NBA: 2020-21 Season 

Post#776 » by dice » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:19 am

R3AL1TY wrote:
Repeat 3-peat wrote:Harden: 32 pts, 14 ast, 12 rebs
Durant: 42 points.

Yea the Nets are going to be a problem.

If Kyrie stops being a rebel with a confused cause, that's 70-100 pts a night from these 3 players easily.

they'd love to be able to get a good trade return for kyrie right about now. there are plenty of possessions for 2 big time scorers. not for 3 unless they bring one off the bench and stagger minutes
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Re: Around the NBA: 2020-21 Season 

Post#777 » by Chi town » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:57 am

Hornets are fun to watch with Melo.

They are young and don’t know how to win yet either.
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Re: Around the NBA: 2020-21 Season 

Post#778 » by TheStig » Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:36 am

R3AL1TY wrote:
TheStig wrote:
R3AL1TY wrote:They would have to use an additional team or two to be part of the deal. The only young guys on their roster I see with value are Kuzma and THT, but they'll have to give up Pope and Schroeder to have enough room for Beal.

But what team is giving up a better asset to get Kuzma or THT? It just doesn't make sense. Miami is somewhere I can see Beal ending up.

Could be a scenario like:

LA out: future 1st, kuzma, THT, Pope, Schroeder
Wash out: Beal + Smith + Hachimura
Team 3: future 1st + filler

LA in: Beal + Smith
Wash in: LA's first, team 3 first, Kuzma, THT, Schroder, filler
Team 3 in: Pope + Hachimura

But like you said, if a team like Miami has a better deal, then LA won't matter.

That's horrible! Why would Washington give up Rui and Beal in a deal? If they wanted to get a 1st for Rui they could just do that. Why would it be in a beal deal. You're just ripping off Washington more. And taking every bit of depth from LA.
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Post#779 » by PrimzyBulls81 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:42 am

R3AL1TY wrote:
TheStig wrote:
R3AL1TY wrote:They would have to use an additional team or two to be part of the deal. The only young guys on their roster I see with value are Kuzma and THT, but they'll have to give up Pope and Schroeder to have enough room for Beal.

But what team is giving up a better asset to get Kuzma or THT? It just doesn't make sense. Miami is somewhere I can see Beal ending up.

Could be a scenario like:

LA out: future 1st, kuzma, THT, Pope, Schroeder
Wash out: Beal + Smith + Hachimura
Team 3: future 1st + filler

LA in: Beal + Smith
Wash in: LA's first, team 3 first, Kuzma, THT, Schroder, filler
Team 3 in: Pope + Hachimura

But like you said, if a team like Miami has a better deal, then LA won't matter.

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Re: Around the NBA: 2020-21 Season 

Post#780 » by TheStig » Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:43 am

dice wrote:
R3AL1TY wrote:
Repeat 3-peat wrote:Harden: 32 pts, 14 ast, 12 rebs
Durant: 42 points.

Yea the Nets are going to be a problem.

If Kyrie stops being a rebel with a confused cause, that's 70-100 pts a night from these 3 players easily.

they'd love to be able to get a good trade return for kyrie right about now. there are plenty of possessions for 2 big time scorers. not for 3 unless they bring one off the bench and stagger minutes

Dinnwiddie is a better PG playing off those two. Will KD let them trade Kyrie for a big?

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