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Re: Eric Maynor? 

Post#821 » by MagicMamba88 » Fri May 27, 2011 4:13 am

Saint18 wrote:He seems like he could be a solid backup but hes looks like a wildcard.... Im still praying that we get Leandro Barbosa.


why do you want Leandro Barbosa?

The guy is garbage and has never play a lick of defense in his life.
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Re: Eric Maynor? 

Post#822 » by Jajwanda » Fri May 27, 2011 4:32 am

Doesn't fit either since he's undersized as a backup SG with no point-guard skills.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#823 » by Jajwanda » Fri May 27, 2011 5:33 am

Bucks don't have the cash to.

By the way the Tony Parker-Odom deal is really something that could elevate this team another level. You better believe that a PG of Parker's caliber would send this offense to an absolutely different level of play. He'd be a weapon against Miami. They cannot check Parker-Kobe and the two Laker bigs. That's nearly impossible. Parker against Bibby-Chalmers is about the difference between LeBron-Artest. That's how big of a difference that kind of move could make.

It's difficult to find backup big men, but it can be done. Finding a PG of Parker's caliber though outside of Paul and Williams is incredibly tough. This could be a major opportunity.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#824 » by tugs » Fri May 27, 2011 5:57 am

I' one of those against swapping a big for small but Odom for Parker is intriguing. I'm a little worried with Parker's defense and shooting though he made improvements on those two aspects lately.

But are the Spurs willing to give up Parker? Is George the future of SA? Who will back him up then? Gary Neal? Do the Spurs need Odom? No doubt they'll improve with LO's versatility but I doubt they'll deal Parker one is to one. There may be a third team involved giving SA another PG in return.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#825 » by Jajwanda » Fri May 27, 2011 6:05 am

Blake would be probably be involved which doesn't help the Lakers.

The Jameer Nelson deal might be better since I think he might be the better defender and has a better shot, although he's not the points in the paint monster that Parker can be. If anyone is moved it will be Odom.

Odom for Nelson+Anderson and then the Lakers can go get themselves a big man to fill in the toughness aspect next to Gasol. Ronny Turiaf would be perfect for the Laker TPE. Then the Lakers can draft a SG with both 2nd round picks used.

PG- Blake, Nelson
SG- Bryant, Daquan Cook
SF- Artest, Barnes
PF- Gasol, Anderson
C- Bynum, Turiaf

I started Blake so that when Kobe sits there's more punch off the bench with Nelson. At the end of the game Nelson will take over (he'll still play 36 mpg). I like that bench because the big men:

- Gasol+Turiaf combo
- Bynum+Anderson combo

They balance out extremely well over the course of the game. The finishing lineup can adjust to whichever big is playing best and it's FARRR better when it comes to the story of the bench.

PG- Nelson, SG- Cook, SF- Bryant, PF- Anderson, C- Gasol

Could finish games. That lineup is deadly with a Kobe-Pau P and R.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#826 » by tugs » Fri May 27, 2011 6:16 am

Interesting. there will be adequate spacing for those two to run PnR's because of the shooters. If OKC is going to use Nate more, then Cook is a possible option. NY is too thin upfront if they don't sign Turiaf back. But since Turiaf has a player option, the only problem now is his willingness to play again with the Lakers.

Damn...Transactions involving Lamar in kinda hard to swallow...
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#827 » by Jajwanda » Fri May 27, 2011 6:22 am

I agree, however it probably is becoming necessary.

I think N.Y. wants that TPE in order to add perhaps a better big man. He can be replaced by say a Kenyon Martin or a Carl Landry deal with New Orleans. That's not the biggest worry.

Parker on the other hand:

I'd rank:

1- Rose
2- Williams
3- Paul

And then after that it's a selfish Westbrook, a shotless Rondo, an old Kidd, a still limited Curry, a very young Wall and guys of that ilk. You could argue he's the fourth best PG in the league we're talking about. He led the NBA in points in the paint one year. That's ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous.

He'd have such an incredibly impact against the Heat with their terrible PGs.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#828 » by tugs » Fri May 27, 2011 6:29 am

Where's Nash? Just curious. :lol:

The Parker deal is much better than that with the Magic. Anderson is a solid player but Parker>Nelson+Anderson. I know, that's a stupid comparison and I may sound stupid but Parker playing for LA "feels right" than with Jameer and Ryan.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#829 » by Jajwanda » Fri May 27, 2011 6:32 am

He's probably right at 4-5 with Parker.

I think the team can still reach a deal for Jarret Jack-Blake somehow as far as cheap trades. Then add Farmar and you have two younger threats at PG with the MLE to spend on a SG. Really solid roster.

Parker is ridiculous now that I'm watching him in mix tapes.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#830 » by tugs » Fri May 27, 2011 6:43 am

Some can argue that Parker is getting older but at least he's a HUGE upgrade over Fisher. Blake for Jack is also nice. The problem now is who will fill on the shoes of the 2011 6MOY? I think it's better to experiment with Caracter, be the Varejao to Mike Brown. If it fails then sign someone along the way.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#831 » by Jajwanda » Fri May 27, 2011 6:54 am

I can see them making a huge offer to J.R. Smith by the way.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#832 » by tugs » Fri May 27, 2011 7:02 am

Right! He's also a FA, I forgot! JR to LA... Hmmm... Nah. I see him going to the Bulls, NY for a bigger market, or NO. All three teams who are in desperate need of a SG.

The promise of more PT and more money blinds young players.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#833 » by Jajwanda » Fri May 27, 2011 7:09 am

Would he have more in Chicago? They have a deep rotation as well. N.Y. has a few other guys too but I suppose he has a chance to take starter minutes.

I'll laugh so hard if they draft two second rounders, sign a backup veteran big man, a shooter, and then say **** you guys win it with what you have.
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Would you trade for Rubio? 

Post#834 » by LascelleL » Fri May 27, 2011 9:01 am

Do you think it would be possible for Lakers' brass to trick Khan into trading Rubio? and if so what would you offer Khan for him or would you even want Rubio in P&G?
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Re: Would you trade for Rubio? 

Post#835 » by LaLa » Fri May 27, 2011 10:42 am

Well, you rule out trading Drew or Pau for him...so yeah, this aint happening.
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Re: Would you trade for Rubio? 

Post#836 » by Jetset » Fri May 27, 2011 10:48 am

You have to take into account that Khan has been waiting for the arrival of Rubio for several years now. That shows you how much he wants the kid. There's nothing short of Bynum that would land us Rubio, so there's no way this would happen.
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Re: Would you trade for Rubio? 

Post#837 » by Dr Aki » Fri May 27, 2011 11:44 am

kahn's job depends on rubio becoming an allstar/sub all-star

so to trade him now? hed get fired so quickly
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#838 » by stankubrick13 » Fri May 27, 2011 11:04 pm

a few things for you all to consider

1. anybody talking about acquiring mcgrady has either not watches b ball for 5 years or is insane. an aging 2 guard who plays zero defense is the last thing we need on this team.

2. we are not looking for young unproven guys. ie, trading for rubio? are you guys kidding?

3. for all of you who have Pau being potentially traded to teams that are rebuilding or very young, STOP. no tea, that is not in win now mode takes in pau's contract with his age and declining skills. only contenders will take pau. He is not going to a rebuilding wolves team. it ain't happening.

4. we are trying to get younger, quicker and more athletic. think about this when you consider potential trades.

5. Bynum will only be traded for a top 3 pg or dwight howard. not because he is that good, but because he is what makes us potentially 'that good'. there are only two 7 foot beasts, bynum and dwight. we dont have the athletic ability anymore nor the youth anymore, and bynum is what we have that other teams dont. he is our advantage against these teams with these other traits. for these reasons, he will not be traded unless we acquire that same beast (howard) or an all star top pg

all that being said...i think it will be either odom or pau to go. if we can find an older team or a contender, they might consider pau. for example, OKC needed a 4 to throw the ball into, ala a pau gasol...the team, though young, is in win now mode, though theyre still getting better and better. they also have the assets to trade for pau while still keeping a very young core...

so a possible trade here?

lal out: Pau gasol, ebanks, fisher
in: steph curry, nick collison, dorell wright

OKC out: westbrook, collison
Okc in: Gasol, jeremy lin, jeff adrien

GS out: steph curry, dorell wright, lin, adrien
in: westbrook, ebanks, fisher (waived) 2 1st rd picks.

why? lakers get the pg we've all been talking about. great shooter, playmaker, and can be THE GUY once Kobe moves on. we also get a deadly 3 point ace in wright who would probably start, and a great glue guy in collison. essentially, he could start and lamar could still come off the bench. GS does it to get the future of their franchise. pairing westbrook with monta and lee is a nice trio. plus TONS of speed, and a potential great 3 in ebanks. OKC gets the starting 4 they need to finish games. pau has experience 2 titles, which will help young OKC. best yet, they keep the rest of their young core, (durant, harden, ibaka, perkins, maynor)

i would do it. I think bynum should be our 2nd option starting next season, and i think if its not odom, pau needs to go.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#839 » by hoops_32 » Fri May 27, 2011 11:47 pm

What do you guys think about Jose Calderon? Would Blake,Walton and a 2nd round pick be enough to get him? I think he could be a good PG for us as he is a pass first PG and is a good shooter. With Ettore Messina reportedly coming over from Europe as an assistant coach Calderon would be a good fit and comfortable running the offense. While he isn't a great defensive PG I think if we get a good defensive PG in the draft like Iman Shumpert who is a combo guard to team with him we will be fine.
Then our new roster would be:

Calderon/Shumpert
Kobe/Fisher
Artest/Barnes
Gasol/Odom
Bynum
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#840 » by Jajwanda » Sat May 28, 2011 12:13 am

I'm not sure Calderon can guard SGs. I will admit though that there are a number of teams that do not have a PG-SG combo where one is particularly dangerous.

You can get away with against:

- Chicago (Bogans and Korver in)
- Dallas (Stevenson in)
- OKC (Sefolosha in)
- Miami (Chalmers, Bibby in)

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