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Re: 2024 NBA Draft - DA BULLS Edition Pick #11 

Post#821 » by Rose2Boozer » Sun May 26, 2024 9:11 pm

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Post#823 » by drosestruts » Mon May 27, 2024 2:14 pm

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His shot looks so effortless. Saw someone else already compare him to Portis, I see that but also Naz Reid and Christian Wood.

The other thing I like about Smith that's always difficult to explain is his just seems really fluid in his motions. For a 6'11" guy he just moves real well. A lot of big guys kind of look awkward when they move, but unless you're telling me he's 6'11" I feel like he just moves like a normal sized person. Feel like this is an advantage when big man have agility and are fluid in their movements.

Getting close to locking him in as my top preference at 11

Dream scenario would be a tradedown with the Pelicans where we can get Smith at 17 plus another player at 21.
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Post#824 » by Wingy » Mon May 27, 2024 2:32 pm

Minor observation, but Smith dips the ball low before he shoots. That was something a lot of people disliked about Simonovic just from Adriatic league highlights.

Still guessing that Missi will be a good player for his role. When there’s a lot of uncertainty, gamble on size with athleticism as long as the guy doesn’t interview as a knucklehead, and have a rep for laziness.
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Post#825 » by Chi town » Mon May 27, 2024 3:50 pm

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His shot looks so effortless. Saw someone else already compare him to Portis, I see that but also Naz Reid and Christian Wood.

The other thing I like about Smith that's always difficult to explain is his just seems really fluid in his motions. For a 6'11" guy he just moves real well. A lot of big guys kind of look awkward when they move, but unless you're telling me he's 6'11" I feel like he just moves like a normal sized person. Feel like this is an advantage when big man have agility and are fluid in their movements.

Getting close to locking him in as my top preference at 11

Dream scenario would be a tradedown with the Pelicans where we can get Smith at 17 plus another player at 21.


I like Naz as a comp but it will take Smith time to get there. As he fills in I think he could play C too.

I think AK will make a win now pick if he keeps the pick and Smith is a future pick.

I like the trade for another pick and go for a guy like Smith
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Post#826 » by Rose2Boozer » Mon May 27, 2024 4:23 pm

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His shot looks so effortless. Saw someone else already compare him to Portis, I see that but also Naz Reid and Christian Wood.

The other thing I like about Smith that's always difficult to explain is his just seems really fluid in his motions. For a 6'11" guy he just moves real well. A lot of big guys kind of look awkward when they move, but unless you're telling me he's 6'11" I feel like he just moves like a normal sized person. Feel like this is an advantage when big man have agility and are fluid in their movements.

Getting close to locking him in as my top preference at 11

Dream scenario would be a tradedown with the Pelicans where we can get Smith at 17 plus another player at 21.


I like Naz as a comp but it will take Smith time to get there. As he fills in I think he could play C too.

I think AK will make a win now pick if he keeps the pick and Smith is a future pick.

I like the trade for another pick and go for a guy like Smith


Who are the win now prospects that could be available at 11?
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Post#827 » by Chi town » Mon May 27, 2024 4:58 pm

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His shot looks so effortless. Saw someone else already compare him to Portis, I see that but also Naz Reid and Christian Wood.

The other thing I like about Smith that's always difficult to explain is his just seems really fluid in his motions. For a 6'11" guy he just moves real well. A lot of big guys kind of look awkward when they move, but unless you're telling me he's 6'11" I feel like he just moves like a normal sized person. Feel like this is an advantage when big man have agility and are fluid in their movements.

Getting close to locking him in as my top preference at 11

Dream scenario would be a tradedown with the Pelicans where we can get Smith at 17 plus another player at 21.


I like Naz as a comp but it will take Smith time to get there. As he fills in I think he could play C too.

I think AK will make a win now pick if he keeps the pick and Smith is a future pick.

I like the trade for another pick and go for a guy like Smith


Who are the win now prospects that could be available at 11?


Knecht Shooting

Holland Defense and Wing Size

TDS many things

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Post#828 » by Jvaughn » Mon May 27, 2024 7:57 pm

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His shot looks so effortless. Saw someone else already compare him to Portis, I see that but also Naz Reid and Christian Wood.

The other thing I like about Smith that's always difficult to explain is his just seems really fluid in his motions. For a 6'11" guy he just moves real well. A lot of big guys kind of look awkward when they move, but unless you're telling me he's 6'11" I feel like he just moves like a normal sized person. Feel like this is an advantage when big man have agility and are fluid in their movements.

Getting close to locking him in as my top preference at 11

Dream scenario would be a tradedown with the Pelicans where we can get Smith at 17 plus another player at 21.


I like Naz as a comp but it will take Smith time to get there. As he fills in I think he could play C too.

I think AK will make a win now pick if he keeps the pick and Smith is a future pick.


I like the trade for another pick and go for a guy like Smith


I think he will too. The issue with that is that there aren't many options for instant contributors in this draft. Best hope is to take a chance on a high ceiling player like the Bucks did with Giannis in 2013.
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Post#829 » by Dresden » Tue May 28, 2024 3:39 am

I wish players had to play at least 3 years of college before going pro. Watching tape of these guys, they're just kids. 40 years ago, guys would have to go through the wars of college hoops before turning pro. It matured them, and seasoned them. Now they get through high school/AAU ball, stop in at a university for a quick cup of coffee, and then it's on to the pro's, and millions of dollars.

I understand why it's good for the players to be able to make money earlier, but I don't think it's good for the game at all.
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Post#830 » by jump » Tue May 28, 2024 4:46 am

Dresden wrote:I wish players had to play at least 3 years of college before going pro. Watching tape of these guys, they're just kids. 40 years ago, guys would have to go through the wars of college hoops before turning pro. It matured them, and seasoned them. Now they get through high school/AAU ball, stop in at a university for a quick cup of coffee, and then it's on to the pro's, and millions of dollars.

I understand why it's good for the players to be able to make money earlier, but I don't think it's good for the game at all.


It's also diluted the quality of NCAA basketball. But there's no turning back.
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Post#831 » by Ccwatercraft » Tue May 28, 2024 11:57 am

jump wrote:
Dresden wrote:I wish players had to play at least 3 years of college before going pro. Watching tape of these guys, they're just kids. 40 years ago, guys would have to go through the wars of college hoops before turning pro. It matured them, and seasoned them. Now they get through high school/AAU ball, stop in at a university for a quick cup of coffee, and then it's on to the pro's, and millions of dollars.

I understand why it's good for the players to be able to make money earlier, but I don't think it's good for the game at all.


It's also diluted the quality of NCAA basketball. But there's no turning back.


I thought they were getting ready to let high school kids back in soon, am I misremembering?
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Post#832 » by sco » Tue May 28, 2024 1:06 pm

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Dresden wrote:I wish players had to play at least 3 years of college before going pro. Watching tape of these guys, they're just kids. 40 years ago, guys would have to go through the wars of college hoops before turning pro. It matured them, and seasoned them. Now they get through high school/AAU ball, stop in at a university for a quick cup of coffee, and then it's on to the pro's, and millions of dollars.

I understand why it's good for the players to be able to make money earlier, but I don't think it's good for the game at all.


It's also diluted the quality of NCAA basketball. But there's no turning back.


I thought they were getting ready to let high school kids back in soon, am I misremembering?

You're right, but fortunately, I think that issue got tabled for awhile.

It is an interesting point but I think that while rooks are rawer, the vets are playing longer and we have the g-league to develop guys now.
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Post#833 » by drosestruts » Tue May 28, 2024 3:56 pm

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It is an interesting point but I think that while rooks are rawer, the vets are playing longer and we have the g-league to develop guys now.


This is interesting and I'm curious to see what the affects will be. In recent times it really seems like every 1st round pick was always given the full length of their rookie contract, but I'm not sure we won't soon see a world where that becomes less of a guarantee.

Right now, for example, we have Dalen Terry earning the salary of pretty much two vet min players. You could in theory sign someone like DJJ (or two someones) for the cost of developing Terry, and it's not like Jones himself is even old, or that Terry projects to ever be better than that.

One prediction could be to sign vet but not rookies to 2-way contracts wit hthe primary purpose to be depth on the NBA roster while playing rookie contract players more in the G-league.
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Post#834 » by drosestruts » Tue May 28, 2024 3:57 pm

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I like Naz as a comp but it will take Smith time to get there. As he fills in I think he could play C too.

I think AK will make a win now pick if he keeps the pick and Smith is a future pick.

I like the trade for another pick and go for a guy like Smith


Who are the win now prospects that could be available at 11?


Knecht Shooting

Holland Defense and Wing Size

TDS many things

Edey


I'll give you Knecht, TDS, and Eddey

But I'm not sure how Holland is being labeled as a "win now" player when he can't even win games or his minutes in the G-league??
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Post#835 » by DuckIII » Tue May 28, 2024 5:45 pm

sco wrote:
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It's also diluted the quality of NCAA basketball. But there's no turning back.


I thought they were getting ready to let high school kids back in soon, am I misremembering?

You're right, but fortunately, I think that issue got tabled for awhile.

It is an interesting point but I think that while rooks are rawer, the vets are playing longer and we have the g-league to develop guys now.


Not to mention that with NIL and now the Power 5 and NCAA agreeing to pay athletes directly, the idea of jumping straight to the L for the money for the elite prospects is less compelling.
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Post#836 » by Mindcrime » Tue May 28, 2024 6:34 pm

Smith is actually pretty intriguing prospect - has size at 6'11, ok/good athlete, nice shooting mechanics from outside - that's nigtmare to guard in general. The main problem(that is totaly fixable) in his shooting is the amount of time he spends stoping, setting his feet in the right position, hesitating for half a second and the releasing the ball.

If he was 6'7 we might have considered him
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Post#837 » by DuckIII » Tue May 28, 2024 6:47 pm

Mindcrime wrote:Smith is actually pretty intriguing prospect - has size at 6'11, ok/good athlete, nice shooting mechanics from outside - that's nigtmare to guard in general. The main problem(that is totaly fixable) in his shooting is the amount of time he spends stoping, setting his feet in the right position, hesitating for half a second and the releasing the ball.

If he was 6'7 we might have considered him


The main, main problem based on the scouting reports I’ve read is that he is a bad and disinterested defender.
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Post#838 » by Mindcrime » Tue May 28, 2024 8:40 pm

DuckIII wrote:
Mindcrime wrote:Smith is actually pretty intriguing prospect - has size at 6'11, ok/good athlete, nice shooting mechanics from outside - that's nigtmare to guard in general. The main problem(that is totaly fixable) in his shooting is the amount of time he spends stoping, setting his feet in the right position, hesitating for half a second and the releasing the ball.

If he was 6'7 we might have considered him


The main, main problem based on the scouting reports I’ve read is that he is a bad and disinterested defender.


We are still talking about a mid-round pick in a semi crap year, right? Besides, these are not the 90's, 00's etc. teams are jacking 3's scoring 120+ points a game, defence is not what it used to be, give me dude who can potentialy swoosh it outside the 3 point line.
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Post#839 » by Am2626 » Tue May 28, 2024 9:57 pm

jump wrote:
Dresden wrote:I wish players had to play at least 3 years of college before going pro. Watching tape of these guys, they're just kids. 40 years ago, guys would have to go through the wars of college hoops before turning pro. It matured them, and seasoned them. Now they get through high school/AAU ball, stop in at a university for a quick cup of coffee, and then it's on to the pro's, and millions of dollars.

I understand why it's good for the players to be able to make money earlier, but I don't think it's good for the game at all.


It's also diluted the quality of NCAA basketball. But there's no turning back.


In this day and age 3 years is probably asking too much. I do think it should be raised to 20. Let these kids have a minimum of 2 years in college. They already can get NIL money. It’s a joke when someone like Bronny is going to the NBA when he couldn’t even average 5ppg in college.
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Post#840 » by Jcool0 » Tue May 28, 2024 9:59 pm

Am2626 wrote:
jump wrote:
Dresden wrote:I wish players had to play at least 3 years of college before going pro. Watching tape of these guys, they're just kids. 40 years ago, guys would have to go through the wars of college hoops before turning pro. It matured them, and seasoned them. Now they get through high school/AAU ball, stop in at a university for a quick cup of coffee, and then it's on to the pro's, and millions of dollars.

I understand why it's good for the players to be able to make money earlier, but I don't think it's good for the game at all.


It's also diluted the quality of NCAA basketball. But there's no turning back.


In this day and age 3 years is probably asking too much. I do think it should be raised to 20. Let these kids have a minimum of 2 years in college. They already can get NIL money. It’s a joke when someone like Bronny is going to the NBA when he couldn’t even average 5ppg in college.


Well 99.99999999999% of college athletes don't have the best player of his generation putting his weight behind getting him into the 1st round. Everyone else would get laughed out the door.,

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