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Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3

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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#881 » by sully00 » Mon Feb 4, 2019 8:37 pm

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If you believe that, you must believe AD and his father are hypocritical morons who must also have some modicum of respect for a short ass mediocre basketball player. It's possible I suppose.


Again, many months ago AD referenced the IT situation regarding teams not being loyal. This is not something they pulled out of their a$$ recently. I don't think it's the ONLY reason, but I def think its A REASON. So when his father is asked about Boston.. that's going to be his answer. Do I care about Rose or Butler? No. But if someone asked me do I want to play for Thibs, I'd say nope and reference how he ran both dudes into the ground. Its the same nonsense.

It also tells me 1. Kyrie may not be returning.. OR 2. AD doesnt have a burning desire to play for Kyrie.

Because I'll tell you one thing... If Lebron/KD/Curry etc were in Boston, the IT situation wouldn't be as pressing.


If AD EVER had intentions of heading to Boston, he would never have issued the trade demand knowing Boston couldn't get involved. He in no way, shape, or form wants to come to Boston. Now that doesn't mean Danny won't trade for him if he gets the opportunity, but that is the reality we confront.


That isn't necessarily true at all. Davis situation is going to evolve over time. He is giving up a lot of guaranteed money by doing this. Getting traded at this deadline gets him an extra year on his trade kicker getting him up to his max salary for the next two years. Boston can't make that happen. So that is why on with 3 or 4 days to go to the deadline Davis wants to open up the list knowing that the Lakers likely can't get the Pelicans to bite but still doesn't want Boston on it because he wants to be traded on Thurs.

Once Thursday comes and goes then he will have to re-evalute his situation. If Boston is still a no in the summer so be it but you don't get the truth until then. We also may have to deal with the reality that Irving may not want to play with Davis after this **** storm as well.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#882 » by 3D Chess » Mon Feb 4, 2019 8:41 pm

Sucks that Danny can make all the right moves year on year and it might all be for nothing because for whatever reason, AD don't wanna be here and Kyrie leaves because he's a weirdo lol.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#883 » by leper-con » Mon Feb 4, 2019 8:42 pm

I'm happy we were able to get HAyward and Hortford in free agency.

Now I just want one of the Major MVP caliber guys come out and say. I want to be in Boston.

i guess this is where my disappointment lays.

Here's hoping the Greek freak falls in love with a Boston girl and is so smitten he demands a trade here.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#884 » by celticfan42487 » Mon Feb 4, 2019 8:42 pm

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Celts17Pride wrote:I think the only reason he would do it under these circumstances is he is afraid he will lose Kyrie.


Which is why Im afraid Danny will do what he has to with Kyrie before the deadline.


If Danny does it, it was probably the right move.


Any Kyrie move Ainge as a GM can only view it the same way the Spurs viewed Kawhi.

No rebuilding team will trade for a contract year Irving.

Winning teams might to put them over the hump.

Or teams with good players looking to sell (there's only really MEM here).

So like the Spurs traded for an all-star like Derozen who would be signed too long if they need to blow it up. Ainge could do say an Irving (with Yabs, Bird, and Wanna for salary matching) for Mike Conely with the Grizzs.

We can take the risk on Conley because he's signed and we're locked into Hayward anyways.

Grizzs would probably only do this if they're trading Gasol as well and are starting over clearing their cap space while still having Irving put on entertaining basketball and they fall into the bottom 5 of the league.

And the Cetlics kind of like the Spurs traded a dollar for fifty cents, but fifty cents that's locked up long term and won't complain.

Or you could do the same trade for Millsap and the Nuggets with them believing it puts them over the top this year.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#885 » by Scarletfire81 » Mon Feb 4, 2019 8:42 pm

After a few days processing the Kyrie situation, I feel like I can't really be mad at him if he leaves. He was traded here, it's not like he chose the Celtics. Ainge knew the risk involved and also that he has a different outlook than most players. In the end it was a small risk that may or may not pay off.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#886 » by Joshyjess » Mon Feb 4, 2019 8:43 pm

I have no idea what's going to happen in the next few days (or even this off-season), and personally I don't care. Can we just stop giving so much importance to the whole AD situation, and just focus on the team we have now?
In spite of the media circus that is going on around us, this C's team is quietly rising up the ranks. The way they have been playing of late shows that they are capable of winning it all - without AD or anyone else.
Would it be great getting Davis? Of course. Should we let this Lebron made circus disrupt what we have going on now - NO! Let's just keep our attention on what we have right now, and let whatever happens in the next couple of days play itself out without letting it disrupt us. If nothing happens in the next few days, we can worry about this off season after this season is over.
OK, stepping off my soap box now.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#887 » by The Corey's » Mon Feb 4, 2019 8:43 pm

When the best big man in the league by a country mile is putting out word that both the bucks and clippers are long term options for him and the celtics aren't, its bizarro world.

Holy **** man
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#888 » by JHTruth » Mon Feb 4, 2019 8:43 pm

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ajones9219 wrote:I swear guys you are always falling for the Klutch media bs. The Davis group are trying to force a trade before the deadline. Of course they are going to say Boston isn't a team they are going to re-sign with. They don't want the Pels holding out for Boston


Well sure. But neither does Anthony Davis. There's the rub. And maybe some idiot GM would give up Tatum for a rental, but Ainge won't.

People here are talking as though AD to Boston was some kind of done deal that Klutch sports stepped in to screw up. The fact is that it was always a long shot. As soon as he fired his agent and hired Rich Paul, the Celtics odds were close to zero.

Just be happy he isn't going to Toronto.


Bingo. No coincidence that he hired Klutch sports and made a demand when he already knew we couldn't get him until the offseason . And yet some people clinging to hope that he wants to play here.. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#889 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Feb 4, 2019 8:43 pm

3D Chess wrote:Sucks that Danny can make all the right moves year on year and it might all be for nothing because for whatever reason, AD don't wanna be here and Kyrie leaves because he's a weirdo lol.

Celtics will win without them. Get on board the Celtics championship train or regret your decision forever.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#890 » by ermocrate » Mon Feb 4, 2019 8:44 pm

Davis has the Bucks on his list.... Lol
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#891 » by Mr Loggins » Mon Feb 4, 2019 8:45 pm

Valid wrote:
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Valid wrote:The operative word there is "relative."


So you agree then? Most of these dudes are pieces of ****.

Yeah but I don't see how that is at all relevant to me calling LeBron a POS. He is a POS. Just because he is less of a POS than a guy who raped a 13-year-old doesn't mean he is not a POS.

As I said before, Tim Duncan: real good guy, and I know this for a fact as someone who knows people who know TD.

LeBron? POS.


just because he’s been San antonio most of his life and local news doesn’t travel up here; what type of community service etc has Duncan done?
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#892 » by 3D Chess » Mon Feb 4, 2019 8:45 pm

Read on Twitter


Why the heck is Demps negotiating this **** lol
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#893 » by mwhis21 » Mon Feb 4, 2019 8:45 pm

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Fencer reregistered wrote:I say again -- none of these rumors prove much of anything.

If AD DOES want to go to Boston, it's to his advantage to let people think he doesn't, so as to drive down what Boston would have to offer for him in a trade.

On the other hand, if he truly doesn't want to come here, the leaks make sense as well.

I think you're giving these guys too much credit. It's not a double or a triple bluff. He wants to go where he wants to go and he's actively burning down the trade market anywhere else.

It's a tried and true formula at this point, and one I expect to keep seeing going forward. Last year it didn't work out for Kawhi because Toronto made a "screw it" move. But that was a very unique circumstance.

The problem this year with AD is, Boston can't very well make a "screw it" move with what it would cost to bring him here, when we don't even know if our current franchise player wants to be here. It could set the franchise back literally a decade or more.

Danny's trying to build a skyscraper on sand right now.


Quite frankly - This is going to be two "all-in" obsessions that DA will have missed.

1. KD
2. AD

Now we're in a position where you have a 30+ Million a year Kyrie if he resigns, a 30 million Hayward, a 25 million Horford w/ Brown and Tatums coming up.

The team is hamstrung.

The GH injury really hurt everything but what can you do. C's are going to have to either roll with this team or start making moves to build around Tatum/Brown/Kyrie... sorry Horford/GH.

It's not that simple though because of the $
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#894 » by SmartWentCrazy » Mon Feb 4, 2019 8:45 pm

celticfan42487 wrote:
VeryMuchWoke wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Which is why Im afraid Danny will do what he has to with Kyrie before the deadline.


If Danny does it, it was probably the right move.


Any Kyrie move Ainge as a GM can only view it the same way the Spurs viewed Kawhi.

No rebuilding team will trade for a contract year Irving.

Winning teams might to put them over the hump.

Or teams with good players looking to sell (there's only really MEM here).

So like the Spurs traded for an all-star like Derozen who would be signed too long if they need to blow it up. Ainge could do say an Irving (with Yabs, Bird, and Wanna for salary matching) for Mike Conely with the Grizzs.

We can take the risk on Conley because he's signed and we're locked into Hayward anyways.

Grizzs would probably only do this if they're trading Gasol as well and are starting over clearing their cap space while still having Irving put on entertaining basketball and they fall into the bottom 5 of the league.

And the Cetlics kind of like the Spurs traded a dollar for fifty cents, but fifty cents that's locked up long term and won't complain.

Or you could do the same trade for Millsap and the Nuggets with them believing it puts them over the top this year.


Would be to Knicks:

Irving for DAJ
Yabu for DSJ

Hopefully we could nab that 2022 unprotected Dallas pick, too.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#895 » by K For Three » Mon Feb 4, 2019 8:46 pm

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Though its probably nothing, sitting Kyrie for the last game before the deadline after making a big stink that he’s 100% healthy is a funny coincidence. Especially after this past tumultuous weekend.

I get that the Cavs suck, but so dis the short-handed Knicks. Just feels really weird to me.

It’s a bit apples and oranges because sitting him against the Knicks after the whole Kyrie to the Knicks thing went public would’ve looked much more shady then what we are reading into this now. Most likely answer is the most obvious one IMO. The Cavs suck and we’re trying to keep Kyrie fresh for the postseason


Sitting out a third consecutive game with an injury wouldnt look shady.

He had family at MSG for the game Friday night. His dad was right there to watch him. When his dad is there, Kyrie usually plays. Kyrie had family there too for our Christmas game vs. Philly and the one before that at home vs. Charlotte.

This is the Cavs on the road too, they are beyond terrible. Kyrie isn't needed before a big game vs. the Lakers on TNT at home. I mean sure it's a road game in Cleveland and we have struggled in those but surely Terry can handle this right?

With Kyrie though they are doing a low key load management thing lately not to over work him vs. bad teams and the meh teams at home. He always shows up for the games we need him in though.

If anything it tells me they are keeping him fresh and that the team considers him an integral part of making a big postseason run this year.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#896 » by KGtabake » Mon Feb 4, 2019 8:46 pm

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wow
well that seals it
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#897 » by celticfan42487 » Mon Feb 4, 2019 8:46 pm

Scarletfire81 wrote:After a few days processing the Kyrie situation, I feel like I can't really be mad at him if he leaves. He was traded here, it's not like he chose the Celtics. Ainge knew the risk involved and also that he has a different outlook than most players. In the end it was a small risk that may or may not pay off.


I can't either. We're not a big market team and we don't have an MVP level player to make it easy street to a ring for him.

Those are the only 2 things (well that and warm weather plus night life which we're one of the worst teams in the league for) that players care about.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#898 » by SmartWentCrazy » Mon Feb 4, 2019 8:46 pm

VeryMuchWoke wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:I think the only reason he would do it under these circumstances is he is afraid he will lose Kyrie.


Which is why Im afraid Danny will do what he has to with Kyrie before the deadline.


If Danny does it, it was probably the right move.


Whatever he does, I fully trust itll work out for the best long term.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#899 » by K For Three » Mon Feb 4, 2019 8:47 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
celticfan42487 wrote:
VeryMuchWoke wrote:
If Danny does it, it was probably the right move.


Any Kyrie move Ainge as a GM can only view it the same way the Spurs viewed Kawhi.

No rebuilding team will trade for a contract year Irving.

Winning teams might to put them over the hump.

Or teams with good players looking to sell (there's only really MEM here).

So like the Spurs traded for an all-star like Derozen who would be signed too long if they need to blow it up. Ainge could do say an Irving (with Yabs, Bird, and Wanna for salary matching) for Mike Conely with the Grizzs.

We can take the risk on Conley because he's signed and we're locked into Hayward anyways.

Grizzs would probably only do this if they're trading Gasol as well and are starting over clearing their cap space while still having Irving put on entertaining basketball and they fall into the bottom 5 of the league.

And the Cetlics kind of like the Spurs traded a dollar for fifty cents, but fifty cents that's locked up long term and won't complain.

Or you could do the same trade for Millsap and the Nuggets with them believing it puts them over the top this year.


Would be to Knicks:

Irving for DAJ
Yabu for DSJ

Hopefully we could nab that 2022 unprotected Dallas pick, too.

Kyrie won't be traded this week, you all worry too much.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#900 » by ajones9219 » Mon Feb 4, 2019 8:47 pm

lol Lakers aren't getting AD. People need to stop buying the bs

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