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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#741 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:40 am

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Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Bowers is the only pick that would shock me. He likely wouldn’t see the field much next year.

I think there is likely interest in him from the Jets and Colts and Bengals. Would love a trade down with one of those teams.


Sam LaPorta and Dalton Kincaid were both awesome for their teams last year and Bowers is a better prospect than both by quite a bit.

LaPorta was a Pro Bowler last year and Bowers plays a similar game. Basically they're mega slot WRs.


Kmet and Everett caught 125 passes between them last year.

I’d call it a pretty gross misuse of sources to take him. Why Id be shocked. You have to have him on a different planet than the DEs, DTs, and WRs that will be there to make up for the fact that you have that position covered well, when you are missing starters at other positions, AND to cover for the fact that the position is significantly less important than the other ones where guys will be available.
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#743 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:21 am

For anyone wondering why they are announcing it Wednesday before the draft, its because they want everyone to forget about it. Taxpayers have 2.3 billion lying around to spend on an inaccessible stadium? What a waste.
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#744 » by Dresden » Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:24 am

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Susan wrote:
Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Bowers is the only pick that would shock me. He likely wouldn’t see the field much next year.

I think there is likely interest in him from the Jets and Colts and Bengals. Would love a trade down with one of those teams.


Sam LaPorta and Dalton Kincaid were both awesome for their teams last year and Bowers is a better prospect than both by quite a bit.

LaPorta was a Pro Bowler last year and Bowers plays a similar game. Basically they're mega slot WRs.


Kmet and Everett caught 125 passes between them last year.

I’d call it a pretty gross misuse of sources to take him. Why Id be shocked. You have to have him on a different planet than the DEs, DTs, and WRs that will be there to make up for the fact that you have that position covered well, when you are missing starters at other positions, AND to cover for the fact that the position is significantly less important than the other ones where guys will be available.


DT we have Dexter and Billings. WR we have Allen and Moore. It's a weak draft for Edge- next year will be better. Ideally you'd trade Everett or Kmet if you can draft Bowers. He might be that good.
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#745 » by PaKii94 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:32 am

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:For anyone wondering why they are announcing it Wednesday before the draft, its because they want everyone to forget about it. Taxpayers have 2.3 billion lying around to spend on an inaccessible stadium? What a waste.


It's sad that the priority is a new public funded stadium while the city and it's infrastructure is deteriorating rapidly around it.
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#746 » by Chi town » Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:42 am

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Chicago-Bull-E wrote:For anyone wondering why they are announcing it Wednesday before the draft, its because they want everyone to forget about it. Taxpayers have 2.3 billion lying around to spend on an inaccessible stadium? What a waste.


It's sad that the priority is a new public funded stadium while the city and it's infrastructure is deteriorating rapidly around it.


Chicago politics. Looks like McCaskey’s know how the game is played.
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#747 » by Chi town » Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:46 am

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Odunze seems like a winner.
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#748 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:47 am

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Chicago-Bull-E wrote:For anyone wondering why they are announcing it Wednesday before the draft, its because they want everyone to forget about it. Taxpayers have 2.3 billion lying around to spend on an inaccessible stadium? What a waste.


It's sad that the priority is a new public funded stadium while the city and it's infrastructure is deteriorating rapidly around it.


Don’t worry, the mayor just appointed a pastor to the CTA board, so clearly things are getting fixed. :lol:
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#749 » by nomorezorro » Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:49 am

the article doesn't actually mention any government backing for the proposal, and specifically it says it'd need state (not city) approval for the bears' preferred funding structure.

given how cold the legislature has been to any public stadium funding proposals, i can't imagine this going through as-is
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#750 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:53 am

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Chicago-Bull-E wrote:
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Sam LaPorta and Dalton Kincaid were both awesome for their teams last year and Bowers is a better prospect than both by quite a bit.

LaPorta was a Pro Bowler last year and Bowers plays a similar game. Basically they're mega slot WRs.


Kmet and Everett caught 125 passes between them last year.

I’d call it a pretty gross misuse of sources to take him. Why Id be shocked. You have to have him on a different planet than the DEs, DTs, and WRs that will be there to make up for the fact that you have that position covered well, when you are missing starters at other positions, AND to cover for the fact that the position is significantly less important than the other ones where guys will be available.


DT we have Dexter and Billings. WR we have Allen and Moore. It's a weak draft for Edge- next year will be better. Ideally you'd trade Everett or Kmet if you can draft Bowers. He might be that good.


You need 2 starting DTSs, a minimum of 2 starting WRs (many teams have 3 at this point). Most teams start 1 TE, not 3.

It’s a weaker draft for TE than it is for DE. Bowers was extremely productive in college and I think he’ll be good, but he is also smaller for a TE. That’s another issue, look at the freaks at the position and their size matters.

He’s unique, but this combination of things is not someone I want to bet on at 9.
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#751 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:55 am

_txchilibowl_ wrote:Dallas Turner is Mike Mamula 2.0

All combine, no skills.


What does this mean? The guy that produced the same amount of tackles and sacks as Will Anderson didn’t produce on the field? How does 1 have no skill and dominate on the field against SEC competition?
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#752 » by Jeffster81 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:05 am

_txchilibowl_ wrote:Dallas Turner is Mike Mamula 2.0

All combine, no skills.


That is certainly a hot take.

I bet you thought Patrick Mahomes was the next Jeff George.
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#753 » by Bullflip » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:11 am

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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#754 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:14 am

If you want a guy that’s all combine and no skill, Chop Robinson is your guy. I pray the Bears don’t get cute and take him, even in a trade down.
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#755 » by Kurt Heimlich » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:29 am

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:If you want a guy that’s all combine and no skill, Chop Robinson is your guy. I pray the Bears don’t get cute and take him, even in a trade down.


He's on the top 30 visit list. If a significant trade back happens I think he's definitely in the group of players theyre looking at. But agreed the production is tough to reconcile with his elite track performance at the combine. But Poles does seem to love those madden attributes strong and fast.

People who like Chop will compare him to micah parsons who's obvious got a lot of similar college/athletic profile stats. If odunze is there at 9 I don't see how they can pass on him. But outside of that I don't have a great feel on whether turner or latu or bowers are better than perhaps a pick package that includes that huge upside swing on Chop in the late teens or 20s.
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#756 » by Charlesareed » Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:08 am

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I’m a bowers fan and believe the jets will trade up and take him if the chargers pass on him but I’d love Rome on this team as wr3
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#758 » by fleet » Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:59 am

Kurt Heimlich wrote:
Chicago-Bull-E wrote:If you want a guy that’s all combine and no skill, Chop Robinson is your guy. I pray the Bears don’t get cute and take him, even in a trade down.


He's on the top 30 visit list. If a significant trade back happens I think he's definitely in the group of players theyre looking at. But agreed the production is tough to reconcile with his elite track performance at the combine. But Poles does seem to love those madden attributes strong and fast.

People who like Chop will compare him to micah parsons who's obvious got a lot of similar college/athletic profile stats. If odunze is there at 9 I don't see how they can pass on him. But outside of that I don't have a great feel on whether turner or latu or bowers are better than perhaps a pick package that includes that huge upside swing on Chop in the late teens or 20s.

Chop has big 10 inch hands. But Micah Parsons has 11 inch catchers mitts for hands, and 3 inches more wingspan than Chop.
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

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