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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#841 » by fleet » Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:59 am

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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#844 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:02 am

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League Circles wrote:I hope another team moves to give us a 2nd nfl team and play in soldier field where the Bears belong. I consider it disgusting that a new stadium is being considered at all, let alone being paid for by the city even partially.

I can easily see it though. Probably lots of people in the city govt and even some residents will convince themselves that what this decaying broke ass city needs is more expensive NFL football games.



The city actually does need the stadium I don't know how anyone can say with a straight face that it doesn't.


Great take.

I love how confident you are in your posts. That worked out well when you told people over and over there is no shot Fields gets traded.
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#845 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:03 am

Caleb is friends with too many dudes, lol. Rome should tell tell other teams to not bother. Olu at 9, Rome at 75.
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#846 » by jnrjr79 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:07 am

chitownsports4ever wrote:
League Circles wrote:I hope another team moves to give us a 2nd nfl team and play in soldier field where the Bears belong. I consider it disgusting that a new stadium is being considered at all, let alone being paid for by the city even partially.

I can easily see it though. Probably lots of people in the city govt and even some residents will convince themselves that what this decaying broke ass city needs is more expensive NFL football games.



The city actually does need the stadium I don't know how anyone can say with a straight face that it doesn't.


I have no idea why the city would need two giant stadiums next to each other. And, as you’ll see from the renderings today, part of this plan is to demolish much of SF, leaving the colonnades but turning the rest of into some sort of park space.

I don’t support the public funding aspect of the plan, but it would be major overkill to have a 60K seat stadium and a new stadium (80K?) next to each other.
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#847 » by League Circles » Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:11 am

chitownsports4ever wrote:
League Circles wrote:I hope another team moves to give us a 2nd nfl team and play in soldier field where the Bears belong. I consider it disgusting that a new stadium is being considered at all, let alone being paid for by the city even partially.

I can easily see it though. Probably lots of people in the city govt and even some residents will convince themselves that what this decaying broke ass city needs is more expensive NFL football games.



The city actually does need the stadium I don't know how anyone can say with a straight face that it doesn't.


I can't imagine any lesser need. What do you think it does for the city? Make money? Ok, just make the city a corporation and run all the entertainment in town. Maybe they can sign Kevin Hart to do a residence at Soldier. Maybe there is something that I'm ignorantly overlooking, but no level of projected " economic activity" or " return on investment" type of argument has any merit. As far as I'm concerned, the Parks District owns the stadium and if the selfish Bears don't want to play there anymore because it's not enough billions of profit for their billionaire asses, the Parks Department should put it to the next best use they can. That could include many things, but they shouldn't let the corporate creep of the Bears could their thinking. This is a city with many serious problems and the last thing ON EARTH they need is more expensive and luxurious high end entertainment for an extra half a percent of the population.

To me it's an environmental issue, a civic dignity issue, a priority issue, an a historical issue. To me Soldier Fields needs to stand indefinitely. Doesn't have to be football, but you can't tear it down.
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#848 » by Dresden » Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:28 am

League Circles wrote:
chitownsports4ever wrote:
League Circles wrote:I hope another team moves to give us a 2nd nfl team and play in soldier field where the Bears belong. I consider it disgusting that a new stadium is being considered at all, let alone being paid for by the city even partially.

I can easily see it though. Probably lots of people in the city govt and even some residents will convince themselves that what this decaying broke ass city needs is more expensive NFL football games.



The city actually does need the stadium I don't know how anyone can say with a straight face that it doesn't.


I can't imagine any lesser need. What do you think it does for the city? Make money? Ok, just make the city a corporation and run all the entertainment in town. Maybe they can sign Kevin Hart to do a residence at Soldier. Maybe there is something that I'm ignorantly overlooking, but no level of projected " economic activity" or " return on investment" type of argument has any merit. As far as I'm concerned, the Parks District owns the stadium and if the selfish Bears don't want to play there anymore because it's not enough billions of profit for their billionaire asses, the Parks Department should put it to the next best use they can. That could include many things, but they shouldn't let the corporate creep of the Bears could their thinking. This is a city with many serious problems and the last thing ON EARTH they need is more expensive and luxurious high end entertainment for an extra half a percent of the population.

To me it's an environmental issue, a civic dignity issue, a priority issue, an a historical issue. To me Soldier Fields needs to stand indefinitely. Doesn't have to be football, but you can't tear it down.


I tend to agree with this. What's wrong with SF other than the turf? Why does the football team need a shiny new, 3.5B arena, when people are living in dilapidated, rat infested housing?
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#849 » by NZB2323 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:30 am

chitownsports4ever wrote:
League Circles wrote:I hope another team moves to give us a 2nd nfl team and play in soldier field where the Bears belong. I consider it disgusting that a new stadium is being considered at all, let alone being paid for by the city even partially.

I can easily see it though. Probably lots of people in the city govt and even some residents will convince themselves that what this decaying broke ass city needs is more expensive NFL football games.



The city actually does need the stadium I don't know how anyone can say with a straight face that it doesn't.


There were 2,450 shootings throughout Chicago last year and the dropout rate was 9.4%, but we should spend taxpayer money on a football stadium and pray about it.
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#850 » by CjayC » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:37 am

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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#851 » by dice » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:54 am

jnrjr79 wrote:Wilco appearing in a Bears thread on a Bulls message board - all my favorite things in life collide.

years ago tweedy's wife's club was closing in chicago. wilco was playing for free on closing night. my friends and i decided to go, but they reached capacity. bun e carlos (drummer for cheap trick) went in right in front of us. i was the first rejection. had i been the only one in the group let in i would've said "see y'all later." just then the band emerged behind us from the street with many bottles of alcohol. as tweedy passed me i asked him if there was room on stage. he mumbled something about not having any control over that and walked in. i assume that i/we missed a great show

the jayhawks are probably the only band i've seen more times. saw both bands on a double bill ages ago
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#852 » by boozapalooza » Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:05 am

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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#853 » by jnrjr79 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:05 am

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jnrjr79 wrote:Wilco appearing in a Bears thread on a Bulls message board - all my favorite things in life collide.

years ago tweedy's wife's club was closing in chicago. wilco was playing for free on closing night. my friends and i decided to go, but they reached capacity. bun e carlos (drummer for cheap trick) went in right in front of us. i was the first rejection. had i been the only one in the group let in i would've said "see y'all later." just then the band emerged behind us from the street with many bottles of alcohol. as tweedy passed me i asked him if there was room on stage. he mumbled something about not having any control over that and walked in. i assume that i/we missed a great show

the jayhawks are probably the only band i've seen more times. saw both bands on a double bill ages ago


Oh, God, what a horrifying story about the closure of the Lounge Ax! I would have been busted up. I was definitely one of those nerds that went to all 5 of the residency shows at the Riv some years back when they played their entire catalog even though in retrospect that seems hilariously unreasonable.

I have seen more Wilco shows than any other band by an order of magnitude, and (this is totally, totally obnoxious, I know) gotten to play with Jeff at a few living room shows due to some people I knew at the Old Town School of Folk Music where I played in their Wilco class for a bunch of years. Through the people I met in that Wilco class I ended up playing in a few different bar bands around town for maybe 5 or 6 years, more or less until I had kids and didn’t have the time for it anymore.
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#854 » by dice » Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:06 am

pretty fun, but occasionally screwy

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results of 10 personalized simulations, trading down for reasonable (not greedy) return if odunze not available:

9 hunt (EDGE slipping to rd. 4)
7 dorlus (DT slipping to rd. 3)

4 odunze
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#855 » by Jeffster81 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:08 am

Charlesareed wrote:If I’m the bears and I’m going defensive ba offense I’m trading back try get 11&23 I doubt minny would trade to a division rival tho I’d go get the best available WR then grab DT Jerzahn Newton from Illinois and


Minnesota will not trade 23 to jump 2 sports. Bears might get a 2nd, but most likely a 3rd for the 9th.
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#856 » by dice » Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:15 am

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jnrjr79 wrote:Wilco appearing in a Bears thread on a Bulls message board - all my favorite things in life collide.

years ago tweedy's wife's club was closing in chicago. wilco was playing for free on closing night. my friends and i decided to go, but they reached capacity. bun e carlos (drummer for cheap trick) went in right in front of us. i was the first rejection. had i been the only one in the group let in i would've said "see y'all later." just then the band emerged behind us from the street with many bottles of alcohol. as tweedy passed me i asked him if there was room on stage. he mumbled something about not having any control over that and walked in. i assume that i/we missed a great show

the jayhawks are probably the only band i've seen more times. saw both bands on a double bill ages ago


Oh, God, what a horrifying story about the closure of the Lounge Ax! I would have been busted up. I was definitely one of those nerds that went to all 5 of the residency shows at the Riv some years back when they played their entire catalog even though in retrospect that seems hilariously unreasonable.

i went to 1 of those shows the year they recorded it for the live album. i think (?) they were only playing 3 shows that year, but it might've been 5

a couple more notables for me were w/ jay bennett at U. of notre dame in the '90s (they tried to get fans on stage, were rejected by security, so came down on the floor to play) and at a small club at U of I when tweedy was in the midst of his drug problem and out-of-sorts

I have seen more Wilco shows than any other band by an order of magnitude, and (this is totally, totally obnoxious, I know) gotten to play with Jeff at a few living room shows due to some people I knew at the Old Town School of Folk Music where I played in their Wilco class for a bunch of years. Through the people I met in that Wilco class I ended up playing in a few different bar bands around town for maybe 5 or 6 years, more or less until I had kids and didn’t have the time for it anymore.

very cool. saw a reunited grant lee buffalo there once. one of the very best '90s bands. grant lee is another guy i've seen a bunch of times

one of the friends i attempted to go to lounge ax with has become quite successful. one of his co-workers lives down the street from tweedy. says it's weird seeing a guy who's probably worth several mil up on the roof cleaning his gutters
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#857 » by jnrjr79 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:21 am

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dice wrote:years ago tweedy's wife's club was closing in chicago. wilco was playing for free on closing night. my friends and i decided to go, but they reached capacity. bun e carlos (drummer for cheap trick) went in right in front of us. i was the first rejection. had i been the only one in the group let in i would've said "see y'all later." just then the band emerged behind us from the street with many bottles of alcohol. as tweedy passed me i asked him if there was room on stage. he mumbled something about not having any control over that and walked in. i assume that i/we missed a great show

the jayhawks are probably the only band i've seen more times. saw both bands on a double bill ages ago


Oh, God, what a horrifying story about the closure of the Lounge Ax! I would have been busted up. I was definitely one of those nerds that went to all 5 of the residency shows at the Riv some years back when they played their entire catalog even though in retrospect that seems hilariously unreasonable.

i went to 1 of those shows the year they recorded it for the live album. i think (?) they were only playing 3 shows that year, but it might've been 5


Yeah, I went to one of the Kicking Television shows as well, which was another multi-night thing but not the same shows as the Residency. Maybe both were at the Riv? As time passes, it’s hard to keep it all straight.

a couple more notables for me were w/ jay bennett at U. of notre dame in the '90s (they tried to get fans on stage, were rejected by security, so came down on the floor to play) and at a small club at U of I when tweedy was in the midst of his drug problem and out-of-sorts

I have seen more Wilco shows than any other band by an order of magnitude, and (this is totally, totally obnoxious, I know) gotten to play with Jeff at a few living room shows due to some people I knew at the Old Town School of Folk Music where I played in their Wilco class for a bunch of years. Through the people I met in that Wilco class I ended up playing in a few different bar bands around town for maybe 5 or 6 years, more or less until I had kids and didn’t have the time for it anymore.

very cool. saw a reunited grant lee buffalo there once. one of the very best '90s bands. grant lee is another guy i've seen a bunch of times

one of the friends i attempted to go to lounge ax with has become quite successful. one of his co-workers lives down the street from tweedy. says it's weird seeing a guy who's probably worth several mil up on the roof cleaning his gutters


Ha, yeah, it’s funny to think of a multi-Grammy-winning lead of one of the most critically acclaimed bands of his generation just…trying to get the damned leaves out of his gutters in his house in Old Irving Park.
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#858 » by dice » Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:29 am

jnrjr79 wrote:Yeah, I went to one of the Kicking Television shows as well, which was another multi-night thing but not the same shows as the Residency. Maybe both were at the Riv? As time passes, it’s hard to keep it all straight.

you may be right. i seem to recall his kids up in the lincoln seats rocking out to 'spiders'

edit: 4 kicking TV shows were at the vic
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#859 » by Charlesareed » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:41 am

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Charlesareed wrote:If I’m the bears and I’m going defensive ba offense I’m trading back try get 11&23 I doubt minny would trade to a division rival tho I’d go get the best available WR then grab DT Jerzahn Newton from Illinois and


Minnesota will not trade 23 to jump 2 sports. Bears might get a 2nd, but most likely a 3rd for the 9th.



Bears will give up the other pick in this draft & the 6th pick they got for fields
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Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

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