GT: Chicago Bulls vs Indiana Pacers Saturday 7 PM WGN

bearadonisdna · Post #136 » by **bearadonisdna** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:05 pm

The bottom line is this is the Pacers superbowl.

bentheredengthat · Post #137 » by **bentheredengthat** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:09 pm

fleet wrote:
coldfish wrote:
DuckIII wrote:
As a diehard basketball follower, you know that hamstring injuries are odd and can linger in strange ways. Don't you think its best to err on the side of caution in November?

Again, to restate with emphasis IF YOUR PLAN TO PREVENT PLAYERS FROM BEING INJURED IS TO SIMPLY SIT THEM OUT . . IM NOT IMPRESSED.

If Rose is really hurting a week after his hamstring pull, of course you sit him.

The larger issue is that he continues to get injured with wear and tear type injuries. I thought that the plan was to have these guys conditioned, stretched and generally prepared to minimize this type of stuff. As others are noting, if Rose keeps getting minor issues and getting held out for precautionary reasons, he will never get on track this season. Hell, we will never see the real Derrick Rose.

Derrick (and everyone else) has to play a month or so of real NBA basketball to get their groove back. That isn't coming close to happening. IMO, holding him out for a week is going to set him back several weeks.

you may be speaking about 2 different things, the Bulls reaction post injury, and the Bulls injury prevention program. Once a guy gets hurt like Rose is, there isn't a lot of debate about how to treat. Its pretty standard fare. If Rose has to sit I'm sure it isn't a controversial decision to be conservative. What used to be controversial was the decision to play through stuff.

From everything I have heard, Rose stretches out and he never used to. I don't know what else the Bulls do to prevent injuries besides targeted nutrition stuff via Swanson. But thats where the questions lay IMO. If anything, Thibs stink eye is being held in check on these decisions to play guys through tweaks if they want to play. And players are being counseled to not get all melty from Thibs hot glare. This sounds like progress. And if we never see old time Derrick this season, I don't see it as caused by the Bulls. More to the player himself and his inability to stay away from Swanson and the training tables. And of course, the final stages of ACL rehab which were needlessly delayed.

Nice post! Until the last 2 sentences!

bearadonisdna · Post #138 » by **bearadonisdna** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:10 pm

If the bulls win this the hate rhetoric will be in full throttle on espn covnvo boards.
Albeit stupid, but some of those things leak through the cracks and gets publicized by another dumb sports interpreter.

pb-ceo · Post #139 » by **pb-ceo** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:21 pm

bearadonisdna wrote:The bottom line is this is the Pacers superbowl.

nahh. they are a supremely confident team and I think are where MIA is, that is, "knowing" they are the better team. this team has a swagger. 9-0. that's not easy to do. And if Stephenson continues to improve like a Maniac, you can book home court for them through the playoffs. IND has bigger fish to fry than CHI. It's MIA. And derrick did not help matters much by giving Paul George something to put up on the team bulletin board. Having said that this is a trap game for IND especially if Derrick doesn't play. They are due for a loss and would not be surprised if it's tonight.

kdapiton · Post #140 » by **kdapiton** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:27 pm

We're due for a 4 game win streak and IND is due for a loss..

All non basketball signs point to us winning.

Trm3 · Post #141 » by **Trm3** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:27 pm

Who would have thought Boozer would be our most durable starter??

bearadonisdna · Post #142 » by **bearadonisdna** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:27 pm

pb-ceo wrote:
bearadonisdna wrote:The bottom line is this is the Pacers superbowl.

nahh. they are a supremely confident team and I think are where MIA is, that is, "knowing" they are the better team. this team has a swagger. 9-0. that's not easy to do. And if Stephenson continues to improve like a Maniac, you can book home court for them through the playoffs. IND has bigger fish to fry than CHI. It's MIA. And derrick did not help matters much by giving Paul George something to put up on the team bulletin board.

They've had a pretty easy schedule and teams are still finding themselves. We should know. Wat we know now boozer has been our best player. Jo is coming around he had 18 last game.

Post #143 » by **Rerisen** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:30 pm

Trm3 wrote:Who would have though Boozer would be our most durable starter??

And most consistent performer this year. But tonight is a big test for him without Rose.

bentheredengthat · Post #144 » by **bentheredengthat** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:34 pm

Rerisen wrote:
Trm3 wrote:Who would have though Boozer would be our most durable starter??

And most consistent performer this year. But tonight is a big test for him without Rose.

I have great hopes for his newly discovered inside-out passing. It looks great & is much more enjoyable than his barreling to the rim until he commits the offensive foul. or gets his shot blocked.

bearadonisdna · Post #145 » by **bearadonisdna** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:38 pm

Rerisen wrote:
Trm3 wrote:Who would have though Boozer would be our most durable starter??

And most consistent performer this year. But tonight is a big test for him without Rose.

So its confirmed drose is out?

Post #146 » by **Rerisen** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:40 pm

bearadonisdna wrote:So its confirmed drose is out?

Err, no, Bulls could be pulling the old rope a dope on Indy. But I'm erring on the side of not getting my hopes up.

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Photo: Chicago Bulls Derrick Rose currently shooting on the floor. Will know soon if playing (Credit: David Schuster)

pb-ceo · Post #147 » by **pb-ceo** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:49 pm

if derrick sits again the media is going to run with it. that's just what they do. and I doubt derrick or the bulls are prepared for "questions". big game for IND. they could go up 4 games in the loss column with only one home game left vs IND for bulls to make up lost ground.

Jo Jo English · Post #148 » by **Jo Jo English** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:22 pm

According to folks on Twitter it looks like Rose is going to play tonight.

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Mike McGraw ‏@McGrawDHBulls 3m

Rose planning to play tonight vs. Indiana.

Aggrey Sam ‏@CSNBullsInsider 3m

Thibs: Derrick is playing vs. Indy tonight.

bearadonisdna · Post #149 » by **bearadonisdna** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:24 pm

Jo Jo English wrote:According to folks on Twitter it looks like Rose is going to play tonight.

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Mike McGraw ‏@McGrawDHBulls 3m

Rose planning to play tonight vs. Indiana.

Aggrey Sam ‏@CSNBullsInsider 3m

Thibs: Derrick is playing vs. Indy tonight.

ya did good Jo Jo

Blount · Post #150 » by **Blount** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:25 pm

bearadonisdna wrote:The bottom line is this is the Pacers superbowl.

They just have that "us against the world" mentality right now because they think they don't get enough respect.

bearadonisdna · Post #151 » by **bearadonisdna** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:27 pm

Blount wrote:
bearadonisdna wrote:The bottom line is this is the Pacers superbowl.

They just have that "us against the world" mentality right now because they think they don't get enough respect.

Not exactly. They have the Bulls are their superbowl mentality.

Ralphb07 · Post #152 » by **Ralphb07** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:27 pm

The Bulls have been smart with Jen in charge. Give him the Toronto game off when he isn't needed to give him a extra day off.

bearadonisdna · Post #153 » by **bearadonisdna** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:28 pm

The last time the pacerss won PG went all off saying the bulls havent had success since the jordan era. The freakin pacers.

bearadonisdna · Post #154 » by **bearadonisdna** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:30 pm

Ralphb07 wrote:The Bulls have been smart with Jen in charge. Give him the Toronto game off when he isn't needed to give him a extra day off.

Jen comes out lookin like a freakin genius. Sitting Rose in a game that was won handily without him and get kirk some good minutes that could translate to our second unit. Bravo. Jen.Bravo.

Post #155 » by **kulaz3000** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:33 pm

Derrick is playing.