2014 Draft Prospect Thread

[23forever]

Smart will never go before Exum, that's a joke. Smart reminds me of Mark Jackson for some reason. I think it's a foregone conclusion one of the 2 guys on Kansas goes #1, after that it's Parker or Exum. There aren't any potential stars after that.

By Mark Jackson do you mean the average NBA defender and below average NBA athlete that made his living off of passing and backing opposing PGs down from half court? He's like the Marcus Smart that projects to be an elite defender in the NBA and explosive NBA athlete that makes his living off of creating his own offense and in the open court? I'm not quite seeing the connection here.

[Jory04]

I think if we get the second or lower the first thing we should try to do is to package the pick and taj and a future pick got love. outside of Parker no has a chance of being as good as him. If we do land a 2 or below we should try to trade it to a team with two first like Orlando who has the rights to either the Knicks or Nuggets pick. Orlando drafts randle or wiggins. We draft smart or exum with the magic pick, young or hood with the cats pick, and draft payne, McGary, or, Austin with the second magic pick

So you want to go from pre-season championship contender this year, to rolling out four rookies, and a second year Snell next season? I dont see it.

[patryk7754]

I think if we get the second or lower the first thing we should try to do is to package the pick and taj and a future pick got love. outside of Parker no has a chance of being as good as him. If we do land a 2 or below we should try to trade it to a team with two first like Orlando who has the rights to either the Knicks or Nuggets pick. Orlando drafts randle or wiggins. We draft smart or exum with the magic pick, young or hood with the cats pick, and draft payne, McGary, or, Austin with the second magic pick

So you want to go from pre-season championship contender this year, to rolling out four rookies, and a second year Snell next season? I dont see it.

Maybe I worded it poorly.
Scenario 1- we get the number one pick and draft Parker and young or hood with the cats pick
Rose/Kirk/Teague
Butler/Snell
Parker/CHA pick/Dunleavey
Mirotic/Taj
Noah/FA


Scenario 2- we get the 2nd or lower and try to package it for love draft young or hood with the cats pick
Rose/Kirk/Teague
Butler/Snell
CHA/Dunleavey
Love/Mirotic
Noah/Taj

Scenario 3- We trade the 2nd or 3rd pick to the magic for multiple quality picks. Right now the magic have the 4th and 23rd. We draft smart or exum with the magic pick, young or hood with the cats pick, and a big mand with the second magic pick
Rose/Kirk/Teague
4th/Snell
Butler/CHA pick/Dunleavey
Mirotic/Taj
Noah/23rd

These would be our three best case scenarios. The deng and boozer situations are unaffected by this since their futurewith the bulls seems to have already been decided. Amd you can't compare this preseason' s expectations to next year's since boozer and deng are most likely gone

[No-Man]

Bulls need Brooklyn and NY to improve and reach at least a 6th pick.
Exum will be a perfect fit with this team needs, also LaVine.

If I'm a Bulls fan, being ralistic (no way you end up out tanking Phila, Milwaukee, Utah, or Orlando) those two, along with Smart, are the guys I want.

Rose
Exum or LaVine-Snell
Butler
Mirotic-Gibson
Noah

That's cool, just wait until Deng gets traded.

[Chi town]

Lavine's coming out party will be tonight against Duke. Watch DX put him the lottery by next week after tonight's game. ESPN will start riding him hard too.

I am looking forward to watching how Jordan Adams plays against Hood as well. I think Adams could sneak into top 20 in this draft when its all said and done.

[JohnnyKILLroy]

Yo Ram

Have you gotten a chance to watch Alphabet's big brother Thanasis at all? I was curious with how he looks in the D-League.

Maybe a 2nd round option for us?

[Action Paxson]

It would be nice if we could fast forward until May. Hopefully all of the top 7 guys come out.

It is very tough to project who will be picking in the top 7.

Bucks, Jazz, and 76ers are probably going to be the 3 worst teams. After that, the Bulls could very much enter the race if they trade Deng. Bulls, Kings, Magic, Raptors are probably the next group of bad teams. The Grizzlies could tank, much like the Bulls. The arrow seems to be pointing up on the Kings. I fully expect the Cavs, Nets, and Knicks to pull it together and make the playoffs.

[Red Larrivee]

If the best player on the board is Randle, I'd love to trade the pick. Draft picks on draft night have super high value and there doesn't seem to be anyway that Randle and Mirotic play at the same time.

Or you could just take Randle and play Mirotic off the bench or vice versa. It's a great problem to have. Randle has big upside.

[Ralphb07]

Red, Manual or whoever. Does getting Marcus Smart allow us to use Rose off ball more and in spot up situations at times allowing Smart to handle the ball and attack. Will that work effectively for us?

That's the feeling I get but I don't nearly watch as much as you guys.

[wonderboy2]

Both are raw and have a heap of potential that could make them anything, but you always take the premier big over the wing.

Embiid. No question.

I used to share this sentiment but given the recent history of this team as well as draft big after draft big that doesn't ever seem to reach his lofty potential, I think our best choice would be Marcus Smart. He fits the identity of this team defensively but also fills the need of someone that can create his own shot/a second playmaker. He's stocky and athletic enough to play either guard spot as well and would be a high/instant impact guy (arguably the favorite for rookie of the year out of this historically talented but young crop, particularly if he's a big time contributor on a contending team like I'm assuming we'll be next season). Exum would be an outstanding choice as well and with a healthy Rose would arguably be the better fit down the line. I think with a likelihood of Noah, Taj, and Mirotic in the front court that drafting another big shouldn't be the priority over filling a glaring need that has been our achilles heel for some time.

I would be so dissapointed if we picked smart and we had a top draft pick. Hes the one guy I dont want becuase he wont be able to break his man down off the dribble at the next level vs good quick defensive guards. Smart also gets blown by routinely by smaller quick guards because of lack of lateral quickness. There are so many better options out there if you have a high pick. Smart wont be able to bully his way to the hoop like he does in college becuase even the smaller guards in the league are strong and they are very crafty.

[Action Paxson]

If the best player on the board is Randle, I'd love to trade the pick. Draft picks on draft night have super high value and there doesn't seem to be anyway that Randle and Mirotic play at the same time.

Or you could just take Randle and play Mirotic off the bench or vice versa. It's a great problem to have. Randle has big upside.

If Randle can play a little center, it is a very nice pair. Mirotic and Randle complement eachother very well offensively. My fear is that they won't be able to stop anyone.

[Ralphb07]

Both are raw and have a heap of potential that could make them anything, but you always take the premier big over the wing.

Embiid. No question.

I used to share this sentiment but given the recent history of this team as well as draft big after draft big that doesn't ever seem to reach his lofty potential, I think our best choice would be Marcus Smart. He fits the identity of this team defensively but also fills the need of someone that can create his own shot/a second playmaker. He's stocky and athletic enough to play either guard spot as well and would be a high/instant impact guy (arguably the favorite for rookie of the year out of this historically talented but young crop, particularly if he's a big time contributor on a contending team like I'm assuming we'll be next season). Exum would be an outstanding choice as well and with a healthy Rose would arguably be the better fit down the line. I think with a likelihood of Noah, Taj, and Mirotic in the front court that drafting another big shouldn't be the priority over filling a glaring need that has been our achilles heel for some time.

I would be so dissapointed if we picked smart and we had a top draft pick. Hes the one guy I dont want becuase he wont be able to break his man down off the dribble at the next level vs good quick defensive guards. Smart also gets blown by routinely by smaller quick guards because of lack of lateral quickness. There are so many better options out there if you have a high pick. Smart wont be able to bully his way to the hoop like he does in college becuase even the smaller guards in the league are strong and they are very crafty.

Who would you take over Smart? Last year I remember people saying he could of gone #1 had he come out. Is it one of those things where we seen more of him so can critique all the little things and with the freshmen guys, there's not as much evidence?

It's a serious question because when it comes to Smart I've noticed either people love him or hate him. No in the middle.

[BullsFTW]

Smart will never go before Exum, that's a joke. Smart reminds me of Mark Jackson for some reason. I think it's a foregone conclusion one of the 2 guys on Kansas goes #1, after that it's Parker or Exum. There aren't any potential stars after that.

I like Exum over Smart too. But the argument for Smart is that he has made significant strides in his shooting, he has refined his games, he looks more polished, and he provides the intangibles GM's love. He's a winner and NBA ready, which is something bad teams need. I also believe he's more of a PG than Exum, and PG is what the Kings, Bucks, and Magic needs.

[MalcolmXing]

I personally have gotten over the player that is Joakim Noah, plainly he's just not the typical big you need. He doesn't have the length, if we had Asik I'd be content with Noah but it seems to me getting taller & quicker centers is becoming the norm & I don't believe Noah can combat that.

[DanTown8587]

If the best player on the board is Randle, I'd love to trade the pick. Draft picks on draft night have super high value and there doesn't seem to be anyway that Randle and Mirotic play at the same time.

Or you could just take Randle and play Mirotic off the bench or vice versa. It's a great problem to have. Randle has big upside.

I think bigs like Randle are huge rolls of the dice where they may or may not become really good players. I'd rather simply trade the pick at the time it's value is absolutely highest. Like would Minnesota (if they're like 12th) do a trade of Randle+Boozer for Love? Could you get Klay Thompson for Randle?

[Red Larrivee]

I think bigs like Randle are huge rolls of the dice where they may or may not become really good players. I'd rather simply trade the pick at the time it's value is absolutely highest. Like would Minnesota (if they're like 12th) do a trade of Randle+Boozer for Love? Could you get Klay Thompson for Randle?

How is he a huge risk?

[wonderboy2]

I used to share this sentiment but given the recent history of this team as well as draft big after draft big that doesn't ever seem to reach his lofty potential, I think our best choice would be Marcus Smart. He fits the identity of this team defensively but also fills the need of someone that can create his own shot/a second playmaker. He's stocky and athletic enough to play either guard spot as well and would be a high/instant impact guy (arguably the favorite for rookie of the year out of this historically talented but young crop, particularly if he's a big time contributor on a contending team like I'm assuming we'll be next season). Exum would be an outstanding choice as well and with a healthy Rose would arguably be the better fit down the line. I think with a likelihood of Noah, Taj, and Mirotic in the front court that drafting another big shouldn't be the priority over filling a glaring need that has been our achilles heel for some time.

I would be so dissapointed if we picked smart and we had a top draft pick. Hes the one guy I dont want becuase he wont be able to break his man down off the dribble at the next level vs good quick defensive guards. Smart also gets blown by routinely by smaller quick guards because of lack of lateral quickness. There are so many better options out there if you have a high pick. Smart wont be able to bully his way to the hoop like he does in college becuase even the smaller guards in the league are strong and they are very crafty.

Who would you take over Smart? Last year I remember people saying he could of gone #1 had he come out. Is it one of those things where we seen more of him so can critique all the little things and with the freshmen guys, there's not as much evidence?

It's a serious question because when it comes to Smart I've noticed either people love him or hate him. No in the middle.

Let me put it this way I wouldnt be disapointed if we got smart because he has improved but his weaknesses are concerning. Look at how smart gets most of his points, they are off transitions 3's and posting up at the elbow and bulldozing his way to the basket vs smaller defenders. He does do a good job at getting to the basket in the pick n roll situations though. He is not going to be a guy that will break a defender down consistently on his own like a derrick rose or a ton of other guards in the league. He has improved his finishing ability because his freshmen season he used to get bloked at the rim alot now hes starting to go into the chest of the defender more. Some one compared smart to mark jackson I say Smart best case scenario has a chance to be chauncey billups if he learns how to keep smaller quick guards in front of him which is smarts weakenss, and get a little better creating off the dribble on his own. Sometimes smart allows complete blow bys vs quick guards and that ABSOLUTELY can not happen at the NBA level. Smart is one of those tough guys to figure out if thier game will transfer or not. To be honest If I was doing a power ranking I would have smart around the 6-9 range, there are just some guys i see having better pro careers then smart.

[DanTown8587]

I think bigs like Randle are huge rolls of the dice where they may or may not become really good players. I'd rather simply trade the pick at the time it's value is absolutely highest. Like would Minnesota (if they're like 12th) do a trade of Randle+Boozer for Love? Could you get Klay Thompson for Randle?

How is he a huge risk?

He doesn't have top end athletic ability, size, or sills. He relies on strength a lot which is a nervous thing for PF at the next level. I don't like his motor all the time and I don't like his ball skills. I think he'll be good not great in the NBA.

Of the top end guys, I think he's the likeliest bust. Now, that doesn't mean I'd be angry to keep him, I'd rather just a get thing like a Thompson or Love.

[Ralphb07]

I would be so dissapointed if we picked smart and we had a top draft pick. Hes the one guy I dont want becuase he wont be able to break his man down off the dribble at the next level vs good quick defensive guards. Smart also gets blown by routinely by smaller quick guards because of lack of lateral quickness. There are so many better options out there if you have a high pick. Smart wont be able to bully his way to the hoop like he does in college becuase even the smaller guards in the league are strong and they are very crafty.

Who would you take over Smart? Last year I remember people saying he could of gone #1 had he come out. Is it one of those things where we seen more of him so can critique all the little things and with the freshmen guys, there's not as much evidence?

It's a serious question because when it comes to Smart I've noticed either people love him or hate him. No in the middle.

Let me put it this way I wouldnt be disapointed if we got smart because he has improved but his weaknesses are concerning. Look at how smart gets most of his points, they are off transitions 3's and posting up at the elbow and bulldozing his way to the basket vs smaller defenders. He does do a good job at getting to the basket in the pick n roll situations though. He is not going to be a guy that will break a defender down consistently on his own like a derrick rose or a ton of other guards in the league. He has improved his finishing ability because his freshmen season he used to get bloked at the rim alot now hes starting to go into the chest of the defender more. Some one compared smart to mark jackson I say Smart best case scenario has a chance to be chauncey billups if he learns how to keep smaller quick guards in front of him which is smarts weakenss, and get a little better creating off the dribble on his own. Sometimes smart allows complete blow bys vs quick guards and that ABSOLUTELY can not happen at the NBA level. Smart is one of those tough guys to figure out if thier game will transfer or not. To be honest If I was doing a power ranking I would have smart around the 6-9 range, there are just some guys i see having better pro careers then smart.

1-3 I'm sold on Parker, Wiggins and Embiid being the top 3. When it comes to Exum, Smart and Randle I am not sure who I like more other than liking Smart and Exum better for our team.

My other question for people is does Smart better translate as a 2G over playing the point spot.

[Action Paxson]

1-3 I'm sold on Parker, Wiggins and Embiid being the top 3. When it comes to Exum, Smart and Randle I am not sure who I like more other than liking Smart and Exum better for our team.

My other question for people is does Smart better translate as a 2G over playing the point spot.

Smart could definitely play some SG, but he's probably best suited at PG. He and Rose are both unselfish enough to co-exist well. It shrinks down the rotation quite nicely too. Smart is a nice fit, IMO. Thibs would love him. Exum is clearly the better prospect though. I can't see a team taking Smart over Exum, no matter how much they love his intangibles.