Deng to GS PG.13 / PG.43 Bulls Say Otherwise

Pax for Prez · Post #321 » by **Pax for Prez** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:46 am

boogydown wrote:
Tommy Udo 6 wrote:Per Sham's site: Salmons final season is only $1,000,000 guaranteed if he is waived by 6/30/2014

Yes.

Salmons, # 5 & # 36 for Deng & # 29 ??

Pax

boogydown · Post #322 » by **boogydown** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:48 am

No on moving the #29. Won't happen. They have that planned out.

Salmons, #5, #36 works but they want to get rid of Evans as well. They are even talking about playing Evans at SF next year. He doesn't fit in Sacramento.

dice · Post #323 » by **dice** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:49 am

dougthonus wrote:
dice wrote:
dougthonus wrote:I'm not sure how much of Salmon's final year is guaranteed, but if it's none or close to none then Salmons + #5 for Deng crushes the GS offer. I'd think there's a pretty good shot that Sacramento would do that.

i dunno about that. salmons has fallen off a cliff the past couple of years

incoming salary - 23.6
outgoing - 27.6

even that mere 4 mil over 2 years in savings might marginally help us avoid lux tax this year (?), re-sign omer and/or taj. along with the potential in the draft pick might make make the deal worthwhile, but hardly something to be excited about

That's why I said it would depend on the guaranteed amount in the final year. If it's fully non guaranteed then it's 2 years 16 million vs 2 years 27.6 million.

it's 1 mil guaranteed and you're leaving out the salary of draft pick

dice · Post #324 » by **dice** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:50 am

ChicagoStrong wrote:
boogydown wrote:What happened to John Salmons last year?

7.5 PPG - 41% FG - 29% 3PT FG - 27.2 MPG - 32 years old

Too many ball dominate players in Sacramento.

he was almost as bad the year before in milwaukee. and his defense was atrocious

Ron Harper · Post #325 » by **Ron Harper** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:50 am

musiqsoulchild wrote:Keeping Biedrins could mean a play for Howard.

Can we do Noah + Taj + Asik + Charlotte Pick + Unguaranteeds for Dwight and Hedo?

That would leave us with:

Dwight / Biedrins
Boozer/ Hedo
Dorrel / Hedo / Butler
Rip / #7 / Butler
Rose / Kidd / Lucas

That looks like a winner to me. Starting unit of Dwight/ Boozer / Dorrel / Rip/ Rose with Hedo coming in as a closer point forward.

I think we can use the MMLE on top of that lineup for some more 3 point scoring to round out the roster.

Wouldn't the #7 pick be better used to send to ORL?

MrFortune3 · Post #326 » by **MrFortune3** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:51 am

boogydown wrote:
Red Larrivee wrote:
boogydown wrote:Makes more sense the Jazz get the #7

Then the Bulls hang up, as it defeats the purpose for them.

The Bulls hang up as soon as they are told to add the Bobcats Pick.

they should laugh first and then hang up. no way short of a Howard trade or someone of that magnitude coming should that pick even be discussed.

Post #327 » by **dougthonus** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:51 am

dice wrote:it's 1 mil guaranteed and you're leaving out the salary of draft pick

Hmm good point.

Googjob · Post #328 » by **Googjob** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:52 am

Howard does not want to play in Chicago. I don't know why you guys keep pushing that. You don't gut your team for a 1-year rental.

BullsFTW · Post #329 » by **BullsFTW** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:52 am

boogydown wrote:No on moving the #29. Won't happen. They have that planned out.

Salmons, #5, #36 works but they want to get rid of Evans as well. They are even talking about playing Evans at SF next year. He doesn't fit in Sacramento.

Evans + Garcia + 5th (Barnes, hopefully he slips) for Deng + Taj + Future Draft Pick
#29: Select Drew Gordon

F Barnes/Butler
F Boozer/Gordon
C Noah/Asik
G Evans/Hamilton/Garcia
G Rose/Evans/Lucas

Red Larrivee · Post #330 » by **Red Larrivee** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:52 am

boogydown wrote:
The Bulls hang up as soon as they are told to add the Bobcats Pick.

They probably would, but they're not doing a deal where they don't get the highest pick involved.

ChicagoStrong · Post #331 » by **ChicagoStrong** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:53 am

dice wrote:
ChicagoStrong wrote:
boogydown wrote:What happened to John Salmons last year?

7.5 PPG - 41% FG - 29% 3PT FG - 27.2 MPG - 32 years old

Too many ball dominate players in Sacramento.

he was almost as bad the year before in milwaukee. and his defense was atrocious

I would guess it's because he got paid.

Post #332 » by **HomoSapien** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:53 am

boogydown wrote:What happened to John Salmons last year?

7.5 PPG - 41% FG - 29% 3PT FG - 27.2 MPG - 32 years old

It's the story of Salmons' career. He is only effective if he's used as a scoring option.

Googjob · Post #333 » by **Googjob** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:53 am

I'd also add that I think a lot of you are overvaluing the Charlotte pick too. It's a nice pick to have in the back pocket, but it's a huge unknown. Yes the Bobcats are bad, but there is no guarantee they'll remain this bad in 4 years. I'd hate to hold back on improving the team a great deal for the 13th pick in the 2015 draft or something.

PistolP · Post #334 » by **PistolP** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:53 am

Chad Ford and Marc Stein wrote:The tipoff that the Kings are likely to deal the No. 5 pick between now and Thursday night, sources say, is the handful of players they’ve brought in that are expected to be drafted in the middle of the first round.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/46492/rockets-set-sights-on-moving-up-in-draft

Although sources stressed that no deal is imminent, Sacramento (No. 5) and Toronto (No. 8 ) have let Houston know that their top-10 selections are available. Sources say that the Rockets, in turn, have made both of their first-round picks available (No. 14 and No. 16), but the key to any trade going through could be point guard Kyle Lowry.

Irregular · Post #335 » by **Irregular** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:54 am

Say NO! to Salmons

BIGGIEsmalls 23 · Post #336 » by **BIGGIEsmalls 23** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:54 am

HomoSapien wrote:
boogydown wrote:What happened to John Salmons last year?

7.5 PPG - 41% FG - 29% 3PT FG - 27.2 MPG - 32 years old

It's the story of Salmons' career. He is only effective if he's used as a scoring option.

I would say that applies to Ben Gordon, as well.

blumeany · Post #337 » by **blumeany** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:55 am

Googjob wrote:I'd also add that I think a lot of you are overvaluing the Charlotte pick too. It's a nice pick to have in the back pocket, but it's a huge unknown. Yes the Bobcats are bad, but there is no guarantee they'll remain this bad in 4 years. I'd hate to hold back on improving the team a great deal for the 13th pick in the 2015 draft or something.

I was thinking this myself. No guarantee Charlotte will suck that long, especially with all the draft picks they'll get along the way. The Bobcat pick is a sweetener at this point, nothing more.

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singal3 · Post #338 » by **singal3** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:55 am

Irregular wrote:Say NO! to Salmons

The guy behind him says otherwise.

Pax for Prez · Post #339 » by **Pax for Prez** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:55 am

boogydown wrote:No on moving the #29. Won't happen. They have that planned out.

Salmons, #5, #36 works but they want to get rid of Evans as well. They are even talking about playing Evans at SF next year. He doesn't fit in Sacramento.

Sorry if I missed something ....

Are we talking about Evans, Salmons, # 5 & # 36 for Deng and Char. pick ????

Thanks for the recap

Pax

musiqsoulchild · Post #340 » by **musiqsoulchild** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:56 am

Googjob wrote:Howard does not want to play in Chicago. I don't know why you guys keep pushing that. You don't gut your team for a 1-year rental.

Were you smiling heartily to yourself as you typed that?

Thia has to do less with Dwight and more with Orlandos management.