Official 2015-16 Trade Thread pt II

Post #1 » by **kingkirk** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:27 am

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Trade away...

Chicago-Bull-E · Post #2 » by **Chicago-Bull-E** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:21 pm

George Hill is having a fantastic year.

Would love a Hill for Gibson deal.

pylb · Post #3 » by **pylb** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:22 pm

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:George Hill is having a fantastic year.

Would love a Hill for Gibson deal.

I don't know why Pacers would want that deal

Chicago-Bull-E · Post #4 » by **Chicago-Bull-E** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:26 pm

pylb wrote:
Chicago-Bull-E wrote:George Hill is having a fantastic year.

Would love a Hill for Gibson deal.

I don't know why Pacers would want that deal

It's a career year for Hill, out of the norm. Maybe they don't buy it long term.

They could use frontcourt help, West is getting up there. It's basically West and Hibbert, West is 34 and Scola is 34. They're done soon.

Maybe George comes back, move Stuckey to point and draft a wing to start at the other guard spot.

Idk, just thinking.

Chicago-Bull-E · Post #5 » by **Chicago-Bull-E** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:29 pm

Love Hill playing behind both Rose and Butler, always liked his game. Guard rotations would be set. Keep Brooks as a twelve man, wave goodbye to Kirk and Moore.

pylb · Post #6 » by **pylb** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:39 pm

I mean I wouldn't mind Hill, but Stuckey at the point didn't work in Detroit, and while Scola is coming off the books for the Pacers, they'll still have West and Hibbert. They're probably looking for a good PG or at least someone who can score to take some pressure off PG.

Not the same level of player, but since I made the very last post in the previous thread, I'll just repost it here for a teeny bit more exposure: I wouldn't mind signing Jason Richardson to a small deal to be our veteran backup wing next year. He looks OK in Philly after the two years off.

edit: saw this proposal on the Raps forum

Vasquez + Ross + 2015 1st
for
Gibson

Ross has had a very disappointing season. Poor defender, doesn't get to the line, but I guess he's a wing who can make 3s. It would be a late first, but a first is always semi valuable. I don't like Vasquez though.

EastBayFJ · Post #7 » by **EastBayFJ** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:59 am

So who trades Joakim Noah for Steven Adams , Steve Novak and Anthony Morrow ?

Post #8 » by **GimmeDat** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:42 am

I would do Taj for Vasquez/Ross/1st.

Vasquez is a good backup, though a bit overpaid and not a great fit for how we use our PG's. Ross, I like. Good prospect, at worst, doesn't improve and stays a borderline starter who's athletic and can hit the 3, at best can develop into a true starter. Be nice to get that extra 1st as well. Btw, I thought Ross was a good defender?

I'm not trading Jo, neither is the FO.

This is a bit of a pipedream at this point, but imagine trading up for Hezonja this draft. Not going to happen because we have Dougie and Hezonja's arrogance is a bit much for the Bulls FO, but we would have the best NBA Euro combo, ever.

NecessaryEvil · Post #9 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:48 am

Taj/Kings Pick/2015 1st rounder

for

Kings 2015 1st rounder

EastBayFJ · Post #10 » by **EastBayFJ** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:24 am

Raps don't do Taj ....sheeyat ....Jonas, Amir, PP is a pretty solid front court already , and , then throw in JJ and Hansborough...I like the balance of their front court. They are a pretty nicely balanced team as is ....if anything I think they need to add genuine 3 size/skill

Y'know....I honestly think Jo is the one to go . Unless we intend giving him a 5 year $65M deal the summer after next deal him for Steven Adams , who , I think will prove to be a monster waiting to happen and the ideal complement to Nikola Mirotic in the front court for the next 10 years

It's a win now move for the Thunder who go all out to retain Durant with this move , but , both he and Noah mature at the same time

If they stay healthy the Thunder takes the West out with Noah , Ibaka , Durant , Lamb and Westbrook supported by Kanter , Collison Roberson , Waiters , and Augustin

EastBayFJ · Post #11 » by **EastBayFJ** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:26 am

NecessaryEvil wrote:Taj/Kings Pick/2015 1st rounder

for

Kings 2015 1st rounder

So basically it's Taj and #22 for #8 in this draft ...seeing as though that pick will eventually be 2nd rounder poop in non conveyance over time

Yeah....nut...don't think so

BullsFTW · Post #12 » by **BullsFTW** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:14 pm

NecessaryEvil wrote:Taj/Kings Pick/2015 1st rounder

for

Kings 2015 1st rounder

Then draft Poeltl or WCS

fuzzy1 · Post #13 » by **fuzzy1** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:25 pm

Hawks fan.

I'm curious how open you'd be to trading either Noah or Gasol. I'd imagine Noah would be a bit more expensive (not sure if that's the truth, though), but either would fit nicely on the Hawks I think. We wouldn't want to trade away any of our core (we hopefully will contend for championships for a while), but we've got some decent young pieces you might like.

Here's my first thought: to free up playing time for Niko (who's a beast, btw), free up some cap to resign Butler, slide Noah back to his natural 5 position, get a backup PG + wing and get younger, something like

Mack
Bazemore
Scott (or no Scott, if you want the cap)
T'Wolves Protected Pick and/or 2016 Atl first (not the Brooklyn pick this year)
Rights to Lamar Patterson

For

Gasol
Hinrich

to my eyes that doesn't seem that bad, but obviously I'm biased. Curious what you guys think.

Edit: Should also say that I don't see your roster, as currently constructed, as a championship contender (no offense). If you do then obviously trading away Gasol is probably not a great idea.

sco · Post #14 » by **sco** » Fri Mar 27, 2015 2:25 am

Living in NY, I think the Knicks could be suckered again. Phil NEEDS to contend now, not in two years. I think if there was any team that would roll the dice on Rose this offseason, assuming he finishes strong it's NY. They have Melo who needs to win NOW. They will also have a top pick. Salaries are tough to match and we may need a 3rd team, but I think between Rose, Noah, Taj, our pick (not saying all, noting assets) there's something that could entice NY to trade the pick and get us to have cash to rebalance.

PrimzyBulls81 · Post #15 » by **PrimzyBulls81** » Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:15 am

sco wrote:Living in NY, I think the Knicks could be suckered again. Phil NEEDS to contend now, not in two years. I think if there was any team that would roll the dice on Rose this offseason, assuming he finishes strong it's NY. They have Melo who needs to win NOW. They will also have a top pick. Salaries are tough to match and we may need a 3rd team, but I think between Rose, Noah, Taj, our pick (not saying all, noting assets) there's something that could entice NY to trade the pick and get us to have cash to rebalance.

I would do a Rose to Knicks with 3rd team involved,where we get the starting pass first PG with good D back.. we dont need 2-3 more rookies on sensitive roster spots.. Give me Dragic, Lawson or Conley and lets close the deal

Chicago-Bull-E · Post #16 » by **Chicago-Bull-E** » Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:36 pm

fuzzy1 wrote:Hawks fan.

I'm curious how open you'd be to trading either Noah or Gasol. I'd imagine Noah would be a bit more expensive (not sure if that's the truth, though), but either would fit nicely on the Hawks I think. We wouldn't want to trade away any of our core (we hopefully will contend for championships for a while), but we've got some decent young pieces you might like.

Here's my first thought: to free up playing time for Niko (who's a beast, btw), free up some cap to resign Butler, slide Noah back to his natural 5 position, get a backup PG + wing and get younger, something like

Mack
Bazemore
Scott (or no Scott, if you want the cap)
T'Wolves Protected Pick and/or 2016 Atl first (not the Brooklyn pick this year)
Rights to Lamar Patterson

For

Gasol
Hinrich

to my eyes that doesn't seem that bad, but obviously I'm biased. Curious what you guys think.

Edit: Should also say that I don't see your roster, as currently constructed, as a championship contender (no offense). If you do then obviously trading away Gasol is probably not a great idea.

I don't know enough about the Hawks but that doesn't look too good. Rank those players on the Hawks, what are they in terms of importance? Are any of those guys even starters? Gasol has been either 1 or 2 in terms of importance for the Bulls.

In my experience mediocre + mediocre + mediocre =/= great. You usually can't just add up role players to trade for an allstar.

red222 · Post #17 » by **red222** » Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:46 pm

PrimzyBulls81 wrote:
sco wrote:Living in NY, I think the Knicks could be suckered again. Phil NEEDS to contend now, not in two years. I think if there was any team that would roll the dice on Rose this offseason, assuming he finishes strong it's NY. They have Melo who needs to win NOW. They will also have a top pick. Salaries are tough to match and we may need a 3rd team, but I think between Rose, Noah, Taj, our pick (not saying all, noting assets) there's something that could entice NY to trade the pick and get us to have cash to rebalance.

I would do a Rose to Knicks with 3rd team involved,where we get the starting pass first PG with good D back.. we dont need 2-3 more rookies on sensitive roster spots.. Give me Dragic, Lawson or Conley and lets close the deal

whodey · Post #18 » by **whodey** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 11:15 pm

My question to everyone is whether you would be satisfied knowing Snell was a starter next year next to Butler?

DanTown8587 · Post #19 » by **DanTown8587** » Sun Mar 29, 2015 4:27 pm

whodey wrote:My question to everyone is whether you would be satisfied knowing Snell was a starter next year next to Butler?

Let's say Kirk doesn't retire so here's the roster

Rose/Hinrich
Butler
Snell/McDermott
Gasol/Mirotic
Noah/Gibson

You can only add talent via draft, one Mini MLE, resigning Dunleavy with early bird, and vet min. Gonna be tough to not have Snell start

Post #20 » by **Rerisen** » Sun Mar 29, 2015 4:30 pm

whodey wrote:My question to everyone is whether you would be satisfied knowing Snell was a starter next year next to Butler?

Hell naw. Not unless he has some massive breakout post-season like Jimmy in 13'.

If you are a serious contender you try to avoid having a mystery or unknown starting position, based on 'hope'.

We did that with Doug this year as 3rd wing and it fell flat hard.