Lakers may pursue Noah

Jvaughn · Post #101 » by **Jvaughn** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 7:04 am

pylb wrote:
MF Danger Mouse wrote:
pylb wrote:No.

Why not? They drafted Russell.

But they still like Clarkson. Russell hasn't played a game yet. Like, maybe if we did Noah + McDermott + Sac pick + future 1st they'd do it.

You'd essentially trade McDermott plus two 1st round draft picks for Jordan freaking Clarkson? That sounds like a good deal to you????

pylb · Post #102 » by **pylb** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 7:06 am

Jvaughn wrote:
pylb wrote:
MF Danger Mouse wrote:
Why not? They drafted Russell.

But they still like Clarkson. Russell hasn't played a game yet. Like, maybe if we did Noah + McDermott + Sac pick + future 1st they'd do it.

You'd essentially trade McDermott plus two 1st round draft picks for Jordan freaking Clarkson? That sounds like a good deal to you????

No it doesnt. What I was getting at is I don't see the Lakers being willing to trade Clarkson for Noah.

TimRobbins · Post #103 » by **TimRobbins** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 7:07 am

The Lakers would probably take Noah off our hand and help us avoid the LT. This sounds more like a deadline deal of the Lakers still have the capspace then.

Jvaughn · Post #104 » by **Jvaughn** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 7:10 am

pylb wrote:
Jvaughn wrote:
You'd essentially trade McDermott plus two 1st round draft picks for Jordan freaking Clarkson? That sounds like a good deal to you????

No it doesnt. What I was getting at is I don't see the Lakers being willing to trade Clarkson for Noah.

Ah gotcha. Scared me there for a second. Thought you were proposing a real trade. lol

ADDinChicago · Post #105 » by **ADDinChicago** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 9:33 am

pduh01 wrote:
ADDinChicago wrote:
pduh01 wrote:Noah for Kobe lol I kid won't happen

There is no one on that roster I want or worth trading at the moment.

(not happening obviously) but you wouldn't want Russell, Randle or Clarkson?

Russell yes(forgot about him lol.)
Randle(Perhaps.)
Clarkson(No & I maybe the only one on this forum wouldn't do a Noah for Clarkson.)

I wouldn't do the deal either, as I'm not for dumping Noah. He's got an expiring deal and there's no reason just to get rid of him. Hopefully he has a bounce back year.

I was just saying, hypothetically, we wake up tomorrow and every player is available, those 3 guys I'd want off the Lakers roster.

rtblues · Post #106 » by **rtblues** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 10:01 am

What's Noah up to this Summer?

Asking seriously, so save the stoner jokes, if there has been anything at all reported about Noah's plans, any medical procedures, rehab program...?

Haven't heard squat on Noah since the season ended. Seriously wondering if there is an arthroscopic procedure, or something else planned...?

pylb · Post #107 » by **pylb** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 10:07 am

rtblues wrote:What's Noah up to this Summer?

Asking seriously, so save the stoner jokes, if there has been anything at all reported about Noah's plans, any medical procedures, rehab program...?

Haven't heard squat on Noah since the season ended. Seriously wondering if there is an arthroscopic procedure, or something else planned...?

All I know is he's not playing for the NT this summer.

rtblues · Post #108 » by **rtblues** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 10:16 am

pylb wrote:
rtblues wrote:What's Noah up to this Summer?

Asking seriously, so save the stoner jokes, if there has been anything at all reported about Noah's plans, any medical procedures, rehab program...?

Haven't heard squat on Noah since the season ended. Seriously wondering if there is an arthroscopic procedure, or something else planned...?

All I know is he's not playing for the NT this summer.

Yeah, and I dunno if that's a "good" thing or a "bad" thing.....

pylb · Post #109 » by **pylb** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 10:18 am

rtblues wrote:
pylb wrote:
rtblues wrote:What's Noah up to this Summer?

Asking seriously, so save the stoner jokes, if there has been anything at all reported about Noah's plans, any medical procedures, rehab program...?

Haven't heard squat on Noah since the season ended. Seriously wondering if there is an arthroscopic procedure, or something else planned...?

All I know is he's not playing for the NT this summer.

Yeah, and I dunno if that's a "good" thing or a "bad" thing.....

He doesn't really like playing for the NT, so I don't think it means anything health wise. It means he probably gets more rest which certainly won't hurt.

Ralphb07 · Post #110 » by **Ralphb07** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 10:25 am

DarthDiggler69 wrote:
othawhitemeat wrote:
Ralphb07 wrote:Jordan Clarkson is good but if you guys really think the Lakers wouldn't trade him for Noah, I don't really know what to say. Clarkson put up numbers on a really bad team. I like Clarkson though, just saying that people may be on the hype train a little here.

I would take Clarkson on this team. While Noah provides team identity he is going downhill and a lot of money. Yes Clarkson put numbers up on a bad team but he has the talent to play 1 or 2 on our team, is athletic, and we have a young backup.. I doubt Lakers would trade him for Noah though..

Not sure I would trade Noah for a back up PG who put up numbers on a bad team either.

I think Clarkson is nice young player, but I don't see where Clarkson for Noah makes sense other than just getting something for Noah before he leaves in 2016. It sure doesn't help us title wise in 2015.

But at the same time I can see why LAL wouldn't want to give Clarkson or any young guy up for a one year rental when Kobe is retiring as well. LAL need to be collecting young assets for the future.

What makes more sense is LAL being a facilitator in a 3rd team that may be looking to get picks and just out of a contract.

SHO'NUFF · Post #111 » by **SHO'NUFF** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 12:20 pm

Payt10 wrote:They drafted Russell. Clarkson is not their future PG anymore. I think it's a fair deal.

I agree. There's nothing crazy about Clarkson's stats that would make him an "untouchable" player. He's got youth on his side but we'd be trading away a 2-time All Star & former Defensive Player of the Year. I think Kobe would be all over this deal.....he'd make it happen.

6_Rings · Post #112 » by **6_Rings** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 12:33 pm

s&t Lin, Hill, fillers for Noah, Kirk

othawhitemeat · Post #113 » by **othawhitemeat** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 1:07 pm

Ralphb07 wrote:
DarthDiggler69 wrote:
othawhitemeat wrote:I would take Clarkson on this team. While Noah provides team identity he is going downhill and a lot of money. Yes Clarkson put numbers up on a bad team but he has the talent to play 1 or 2 on our team, is athletic, and we have a young backup.. I doubt Lakers would trade him for Noah though..

Not sure I would trade Noah for a back up PG who put up numbers on a bad team either.

I think Clarkson is nice young player, but I don't see where Clarkson for Noah makes sense other than just getting something for Noah before he leaves in 2016. It sure doesn't help us title wise in 2015.

But at the same time I can see why LAL wouldn't want to give Clarkson or any young guy up for a one year rental when Kobe is retiring as well. LAL need to be collecting young assets for the future.

What makes more sense is LAL being a facilitator in a 3rd team that may be looking to get picks and just out of a contract.

I doubt Lakers make trade, but I just fear of Noah is going to react to a diminished role in a contract role. I fear the Bulls sitting on their hands and just letting Noah depreciate. I also feel Portis can contribute right away for at least 12 to 15 mpg. I wonder if kings would trade Collison for Taj? Taj is a good fit for Cousins and Coach Karl and would allow us to use our mmle on someone such as Gerald Green. The Kings already have McCollum to back up too. We would get our pg... Now that the Kings have cap space and traded their youth away.

Rose/Collison
Butler/Green/Snell
McDermott/Dun dun
Niko/Portis
Pau/noah

6_Rings · Post #114 » by **6_Rings** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 1:13 pm

letting go of Noah creates more PT for Portis who I think is the sleeper of the draft. the next Butler. yeah!

we need somebody to orchestrate the 2nd unit. a backup PG is a must. somebody to make the big men like Portis look good. not a smallish shoot-first scorer.

Ralphb07 · Post #115 » by **Ralphb07** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 1:41 pm

othawhitemeat wrote:
Ralphb07 wrote:
DarthDiggler69 wrote:
Not sure I would trade Noah for a back up PG who put up numbers on a bad team either.

I think Clarkson is nice young player, but I don't see where Clarkson for Noah makes sense other than just getting something for Noah before he leaves in 2016. It sure doesn't help us title wise in 2015.

But at the same time I can see why LAL wouldn't want to give Clarkson or any young guy up for a one year rental when Kobe is retiring as well. LAL need to be collecting young assets for the future.

What makes more sense is LAL being a facilitator in a 3rd team that may be looking to get picks and just out of a contract.

I doubt Lakers make trade, but I just fear of Noah is going to react to a diminished role in a contract role. I fear the Bulls sitting on their hands and just letting Noah depreciate. I also feel Portis can contribute right away for at least 12 to 15 mpg. I wonder if kings would trade Collison for Taj? Taj is a good fit for Cousins and Coach Karl and would allow us to use our mmle on someone such as Gerald Green. The Kings already have McCollum to back up too. We would get our pg... Now that the Kings have cap space and traded their youth away.

Rose/Collison
Butler/Green/Snell
McDermott/Dun dun
Niko/Portis
Pau/noah

It depends on what you looking at this season. If you're conceding before the season starts sure you just dump one but by retaining MDJ and using the mmle that doesn't seem to be the case.

I think you need someone better than Collison for Gibson. Any move you make for Noah or Gibson should be viewed as does it let them compete at a higher level.

Green is probably a worse defender than Doug. That would be a waste of resources if you ask me.

I'm not all stand pat, I want one to be moved but for someone that you say this guy helps our chances this year. Someone like Gallinari for Noah or Wilson for Gibson. Which both can play PF as well if Portis isn't ready or if small ball is needed

drbg43 · Post #116 » by **drbg43** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 1:44 pm

that 13 mil expiring actually doesnt look that bad when ROBIN LOPEZ is getting 13 mil.

MGB8 · Post #117 » by **MGB8** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 2:32 pm

I also doubt that the Lakers would move Clarkson for Noah - mostly because they seem to be going young vs. "win-now." But people are under rating Noah's value, as well.

For the Lakers, I'm sure they'd move Nick Young plus a sign and trade of Lin or Wesley Johnson.

For the Clippers, who should be desperate for a center - especially a defense and rebounding guy who is fast enough to play in the Clipps system - Noah over Hibbert.

For them, Reddick should not be too much to ask, at all. And they should jump on that. They can find more shooting. There aren't that many legit defensive centers, which Noah still is.

6_Rings · Post #118 » by **6_Rings** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 2:36 pm

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has to be a conspiracy smh lol

Red Larrivee · Post #119 » by **Red Larrivee** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 2:41 pm

drbg43 wrote:that 13 mil expiring actually doesnt look that bad when ROBIN LOPEZ is getting 13 mil.

Yeah, seems we might have exaggerated Noah's demise a bit. At $13.9 million for one season, he's far from overpaid given the current market and he's a lot better than the Amir Johnson's and Robin Lopez' of the world who are now making similar money. If Noah has a halfway decent season, some team next year will give him at least $12 million. Hell, Noah might be able to fleece a team for $14M.

But there doesn't seem to be anything going on with him trade wise.

waffle · Post #120 » by **waffle** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 2:44 pm

Nobody is going to blow us away with a trade for Noah, no chance.

I believe he'll do what it takes to play productive basketball again. He's not a mail it in kind of guy.

If he can be productive, I want him doing it here. If he can't, he's worth diddly to anyone else.