Is Dalen Terry an NBA level player?

[hurrikayne2001]

His shot is so ugly. I can't see him ever becoming a good shooter from deep.

I agree. He's shooting 27% on jump shots and 24% from the 3pt. Even though this is a small sample size I can't think of a player that shoots this bad and became a reliable shooter. IMO he is not an NBA level player. Stats came from Basketball reference and NBA stats.

[sco]

His shot is so ugly. I can't see him ever becoming a good shooter from deep.

I agree. He's shooting 27% on jump shots and 24% from the 3pt. Even though this is a small sample size I can't think of a player that shoots this bad and became a reliable shooter. IMO he is not an NBA level player. Stats came from Basketball reference and NBA stats.

Said another way, I would be happy to somehow add him as a throw-in on a trade. IMO there are many g-league guys who present a better risk/return profile.

[GoBlue72391]

I like just about everything about Dalen Terry except his shot. Unfortunately, his shot is by far the most important thing in terms of establishing a consistent role and sticking in the NBA.

It's really unfortunate since he has everything else to be a key role player and versatile bench piece.

[Guru]

I like just about everything about Dalen Terry except his shot. Unfortunately, his shot is by far the most important thing in terms of establishing a consistent role and sticking in the NBA.

It's really unfortunate since he has everything else to be a key role player and versatile bench piece.

Its not. You don't have to score to be a role player.

[Guru]

This thread is insane. He could start on the right team. Sure his scoring needs help but there is only one basketball. We don't need him to score to have an impact.

[dougthonus]

This thread is insane. He could start on the right team. Sure his scoring needs help but there is only one basketball. We don't need him to score to have an impact.

Counterpoint. Javonte Green came in off the street and gives you more controlled defense and better offense.

[HomoSapien]

This thread is insane. He could start on the right team. Sure his scoring needs help but there is only one basketball. We don't need him to score to have an impact.

Who could? Dalen Terry?? What team?

[MrSparkle]

Boston and Denver demonstrate the benefit of having 5 scorers. They have great no. 1s, but their starting line-ups put them far and beyond the other superstars’ teams.

Suns, Mavs show that even your top superstars can’t carry teams that can’t play 4 or 5 shooters or atleast elite rim scorers (Gafford). Only after some trades and health are the Suns and Mavs back on track, but it’s a play-in race for them, despite being top-heavy and loaded with generational shooting talent.

So to think the Bulls can get away with it, with 1 fringe star (with an expiration date) and a developing prospect star? Terry will only play on a good Bulls team if he develops an excellent scoring ability.

I already think AK needs to pivot and focus on 3p shooting (draft, trades, FA), or else this team is permanently stuck being fringe play-in. A 24% 3P shooter isn’t a shooting coach and 2 years away from becoming a league asset at 3P (35%+)- there’s a very strong chance he never develops it.

[Axl Rose]

This thread is insane. He could start on the right team. Sure his scoring needs help but there is only one basketball. We don't need him to score to have an impact.

Who could? Dalen Terry?? What team?

Whatever team wants the #1 pick. It's true that you don't have to be a scorer to have an impact but you have to be able to score.

[GoBlue72391]

This thread is insane. He could start on the right team. Sure his scoring needs help but there is only one basketball. We don't need him to score to have an impact.

You're so toxically positive that you somehow construe people encouraging a player to work on his weaknesses and improve as somehow being negative.

[GoBlue72391]

I like just about everything about Dalen Terry except his shot. Unfortunately, his shot is by far the most important thing in terms of establishing a consistent role and sticking in the NBA.

It's really unfortunate since he has everything else to be a key role player and versatile bench piece.

Its not. You don't have to score to be a role player.

It's hard to get on the court when your team is playing 4v5 when you're out there.

[GoBlue72391]

This thread is insane. He could start on the right team. Sure his scoring needs help but there is only one basketball. We don't need him to score to have an impact.

Who could? Dalen Terry?? What team?

Whatever team wants the #1 pick. It's true that you don't have to be a scorer to have an impact but you have to be able to score.

Exactly.

[League Circles]

I haven't watched a lot of him, but definitely liked his defense and ball handling when I have. He could pretty plausibly improve to be a solid rotation role player focusing on defense, ball handling and passing, but so far he's not good enough to commit a contract to for a team that is mediocre, capped out, and has quite a few players at his position(s) that are much more worthy of commitment. I'm strongly against the default keeping of all players for as long as possible just because they are young and have some upside. Most will never become anything. Probably 70-90% of entering NBA players have the physical ability to be a star if like 10 things go right for them. The only guys that you should keep as long as possible even if they suck are the guys with just dominant and unique physical abilities. We certainly have none of them.

If we were an old, successful team, then maybe you keep a guy like Dalen for his whole rookie deal because your stock of youth is thin, but we are not an old successful team. We are a mediocre team with mixed experience and ALL of these youngish guys competing with Dalen for a role:

Zach (not "youngish", but I plan in 4 or 5 year increments, and both he and Caruso should be definitely good enough for rotations for 4-5 more years)
Caruso
Coby
Ball
Ayo
Phillips
Patrick
Possibly somebody at #11 this summer

We should try to dump Terry this summer and if we can't, decline his 4th year option this fall unless he improves dramatically between now and then.

[sco]

I haven't watched a lot of him, but definitely liked his defense and ball handling when I have. He could pretty plausibly improve to be a solid rotation role player focusing on defense, ball handling and passing, but so far he's not good enough to commit a contract to for a team that is mediocre, capped out, and has quite a few players at his position(s) that are much more worthy of commitment. I'm strongly against the default keeping of all players for as long as possible just because they are young and have some upside. Most will never become anything. Probably 70-90% of entering NBA players have the physical ability to be a star if like 10 things go right for them. The only guys that you should keep as long as possible even if they suck are the guys with just dominant and unique physical abilities. We certainly have none of them.

If we were an old, successful team, then maybe you keep a guy like Dalen for his whole rookie deal because your stock of youth is thin, but we are not an old successful team. We are a mediocre team with mixed experience and ALL of these youngish guys competing with Dalen for a role:

Zach (not "youngish", but I plan in 4 or 5 year increments, and both he and Caruso should be definitely good enough for rotations for 4-5 more years)
Caruso
Coby
Ball
Ayo
Phillips
Patrick
Possibly somebody at #11 this summer

We should try to dump Terry this summer and if we can't, decline his 4th year option this fall unless he improves dramatically between now and then.

Spot on!

IMO, ball handling defenders are a dime a dozen.

[DuckIII]

This thread is insane.

No it’s not.

He could start on the right team.

Oh wait, scratch that.

[Stratmaster]

This thread is insane. He could start on the right team. Sure his scoring needs help but there is only one basketball. We don't need him to score to have an impact.

You're so toxically positive that you somehow construe people encouraging a player to work on his weaknesses and improve as somehow being negative.

Wait. What is this "toxically positive" thing you speak of?

You just made that up didn't you? Lol

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[Guru]

This thread is insane. He could start on the right team. Sure his scoring needs help but there is only one basketball. We don't need him to score to have an impact.

Counterpoint. Javonte Green came in off the street and gives you more controlled defense and better offense.

The argument is not that he is better than Javonte Green. Is that he is an NBA player. Somehow because he can't shoot he isn't an NBA player. Hogwash. Malarky. Erroneous!

He is a perfectly fine end of the rotation player RIGHT NOW. and that puts him as 9-10 on a 15-18 man roster. What in the wide world of sports are we talking about?

If you had scorers at the 1-2 and 4-5 you could easily get away with having a guy like Terry play D and help the offense move at the 3. Would I want that? No....but teams do it all the time. Thabo Sfolosha started 475 games in his career. Is it ideal....No....Can you do it if the other positions are offensive focused....absolutely..there is only 1 ball.

[Guru]

This thread is insane. He could start on the right team. Sure his scoring needs help but there is only one basketball. We don't need him to score to have an impact.

You're so toxically positive that you somehow construe people encouraging a player to work on his weaknesses and improve as somehow being negative.

the thread title is "Is he an NBA level player"

[Guru]

I haven't watched a lot of him, but definitely liked his defense and ball handling when I have. He could pretty plausibly improve to be a solid rotation role player focusing on defense, ball handling and passing, but so far he's not good enough to commit a contract to for a team that is mediocre, capped out, and has quite a few players at his position(s) that are much more worthy of commitment.

Completely agree dependent on what that contract is. I think they drafted a 6-9th man for what they thought was a very good team. He could have filled that role well with upside. When asked to do more offensively he has struggled. He's will be 22 in the offseason. Still young. He is well worth his contract in 2024-25 that has already been exercised.

They have until 10/31 to exercise his 2025 deal for 5.3. I think that's a no brainer. Then it gets murky

[dougthonus]

The argument is not that he is better than Javonte Green. Is that he is an NBA player.

If you are not better than a guy who is in street clothes because no one wants you, then it's pretty hard do make the argument that he is an NBA player that could start on some teams.

He is a perfectly fine end of the rotation player RIGHT NOW. and that puts him as 9-10 on a 15-18 man roster. What in the wide world of sports are we talking about?

End of rotation guys are generally guys who are unique specialists or guys you hope grow into useful players later. Terry is not a unique specialist, and if he grows into a player later, it will likely be a vet min style defensive specialist. He's on the roster only because his contract is guaranteed.

If you had scorers at the 1-2 and 4-5 you could easily get away with having a guy like Terry play D and help the offense move at the 3. Would I want that? No....but teams do it all the time. Thabo Sfolosha started 475 games in his career. Is it ideal....No....Can you do it if the other positions are offensive focused....absolutely..there is only 1 ball.

Thabo Sefolosha is probably a reasonable comparison for Terry's upside, but Thabo was much better, but his floor is absolutely "doesn't belong in the league". If this was his game at the age of 26, he'd be a G-Leaguer.