2024 NBA Draft Thread (Early)

2weekswithpay · Post #241 » by **2weekswithpay** » Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:26 am

Vintage wrote:
2weekswithpay wrote:I know it's college but could Vuc/Drummond make this same play on defense?

And at the next level, the guy driving the ball is quicker…

You are correct but no NBA is going to ask him to hedge and recover back to the roll man like this. #11 will slide over to stop the roll and then everyone will rotate from there. Being able to recover and block this shot is amazing.

NBA rotations are different.

CoreyVillains · Post #242 » by **CoreyVillains** » Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:44 pm

drosestruts wrote:Really starting to like Tyler Smith and am simaltaneously confused why he's projected to go so low

6'11" - shooting 36% on four 3's a game i nthe G-league. 61% TS%. 2 STOCKS per game

Stretch big - lefty.

Envision him more as a big 4 that can play alongside a guy like Vuc and play some minutes as a small ball 5.

Size - length- shooting

https://youtu.be/bX8Oz-sCq4M?si=dmIG8j8e9Sn7mqUx

Just watched film with him. Great kid, who knows his strengths and is self aware about the stuff he needs to work on.

drosestruts · Post #243 » by **drosestruts** » Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:10 pm

CoreyVillains wrote:
drosestruts wrote:Really starting to like Tyler Smith and am simaltaneously confused why he's projected to go so low

6'11" - shooting 36% on four 3's a game i nthe G-league. 61% TS%. 2 STOCKS per game

Stretch big - lefty.

Envision him more as a big 4 that can play alongside a guy like Vuc and play some minutes as a small ball 5.

Size - length- shooting

https://youtu.be/bX8Oz-sCq4M?si=dmIG8j8e9Sn7mqUx

Just watched film with him. Great kid, who knows his strengths and is self aware about the stuff he needs to work on.

Thank you for sharing - the combination of floor spacing and vertical spacing has me very intrigued and interested in Smith.

Also really like the self-awareness, even early on in the video saying he's working on getting better on his switchability on defense. You can't improve on things if you lack the awareness to recognize they need work.

He talks through not being "jumpy" when switched onto a guard or not helping off a shooter on the strong side. It's nice hearing him recognizing these things as you both walk through the film.

Smith does seem to be a Markkanen, Portis, Wood, Lyles type player - and I think the Bulls could use a player like that.

Repeat 3-peat · Post #244 » by **Repeat 3-peat** » Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:38 am

I'm still a fan of Filipowski. With his improved mobility on the perimeter I can see him being able to play the 4 on defense. He plays with such a good feel for the game on both sides of the court, a really good passer for his age.

Could be the ideal prospect for the Bulls to help with both lack of size and shooting(if you believe he'll continue to improve).

Jcool0 · Post #245 » by **Jcool0** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:14 am

Read on Twitter

Muzbar · Post #246 » by **Muzbar** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:42 am

Jcool0 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Yes please.

But I don't think he'll be available when the Bulls pick.

Repeat 3-peat · Post #247 » by **Repeat 3-peat** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:08 am

Watch on YouTube

Jcool0 · Post #248 » by **Jcool0** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:46 pm

Muzbar wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Yes please.

But I don't think he'll be available when the Bulls pick.

I've seen him anywhere from #6 to #10.

TheSuzerain · Post #249 » by **TheSuzerain** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:44 pm

Topic could slide it seems with his injury.

TheSuzerain · Post #250 » by **TheSuzerain** » Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:27 am

Clingan seems like a guy who can be defended by pretty much any NBA small forward.

This limits his ceiling big time. Role player dude.

TheSuzerain · Post #251 » by **TheSuzerain** » Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:51 am

Shannon making some money this March. This level looks beneath him.

boozapalooza · Post #252 » by **boozapalooza** » Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:19 am

TheSuzerain wrote:Shannon making some money this March. This level looks beneath him.

Terrence Shannon could be a pretty good Lavine replacement. I’d take him late lotto. Best player in the tournament so far.

Chi town · Post #253 » by **Chi town** » Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:00 pm

boozapalooza wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:Shannon making some money this March. This level looks beneath him.

Terrence Shannon could be a pretty good Lavine replacement. I’d take him late lotto. Best player in the tournament so far.

Ayo is the Lavine replacement.

Shannon is the DDR replacement. I like his game a lot to replace DDR as well.

I’d be happy with a trade back and a Edey Shannon or Da Silva Shannon draft.

Post #254 » by **DuckIII** » Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:33 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:Shannon making some money this March. This level looks beneath him.

It’s 7 post-season games in a row averaging a highly efficient 30+ with translatable defense at 3 positions. It has to be a historically good run in modern college basketball.

But the main thing is what you said. As he’s doing it, he flat looks like a 3rd year NBA starter got dropped into a college game. He’s so much better and different that he jumps off the screen as “does not belong here.”

Now, some of that is attributable to his experience. But not much of it. I’ve seen him in mocks going anywhere from the 20s to the second round.

It’s hard to imagine him lasting that long but when it comes to “veteran” college players the NBA collective has been blowing it for years. It matters, but the amount of weight put into it is so severe it’s almost become completely dismissive of the rest of the analysis.

2weekswithpay · Post #255 » by **2weekswithpay** » Fri Mar 29, 2024 5:07 pm

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Rose2Boozer · Post #256 » by **Rose2Boozer** » Fri Mar 29, 2024 5:45 pm

Before the measurements are taken and become available, I'm team Clingan. He'll be able to defend at a high level, and make shots available for better offensive players. I think Clingan would be perfect for Williams on both ends of the floor.

Post #257 » by **DuckIII** » Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:31 pm

Chi town wrote:
boozapalooza wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:Shannon making some money this March. This level looks beneath him.

Terrence Shannon could be a pretty good Lavine replacement. I’d take him late lotto. Best player in the tournament so far.

Ayo is the Lavine replacement.

Interesting. Ayo and Coby are both combo guards. But Ayo is larger parts point guard and Coby is larger parts shooting guard. Coby is the Lavine replacement if we are looking at it that way.

Shannon is the DDR replacement. I like his game a lot to replace DDR as well.

Sure. He can be a 2/3.

I’d be happy with a trade back and a Edey Shannon or Da Silva Shannon draft.

Hard to imagine our 12 pick yielding that kind of return and we have no other real trade assets to add that would make sense. How would you propose pulling it off?

TheSuzerain · Post #258 » by **TheSuzerain** » Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:41 pm

2weekswithpay wrote:

Read on Twitter

I don't know what to make of him. He seems very tall which helps his cause.

TheSuzerain · Post #259 » by **TheSuzerain** » Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:42 pm

Coby
Shannon
PWill
Jonathan Isaac
Edey

Ayo 6th man.

Get it done somehow.

Post #260 » by **DuckIII** » Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:51 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:Coby
Shannon
PWill
Jonathan Isaac
Edey

Ayo 6th man.

Get it done somehow.

Outside of quibbling about where you would use a pick on Edey, I love that as the opening model of a rebuilding team. They won’t win a lot right away but that’s also kinda the point at least for a little while. It’s a jumping off spot.