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Re: Bears 2024 4.0 

Post#41 » by biggestbullsfan » Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:48 pm

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Re: Bears 2024 4.0 

Post#42 » by jnrjr79 » Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:51 pm

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I dunno about this take. If it's just two years of guarantees, it seems fine to agree to a larger guarantee.

Kinda funny that it's literally just $1M of a $49M contract that isn't guaranteed. I'd love to know how that got negotiated.
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Re: Bears 2024 4.0 

Post#43 » by fleet » Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:04 pm

Texans are working on forming the exact team we wanted to form
Brad Biggs wrote:Fields was in the bottom third of the league in too many key statistical metrics for the Bears to commit to the idea of trading down from the first pick for a bundle of future assets and then building around him.
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Re: Bears 2024 4.0 

Post#44 » by biggestbullsfan » Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:05 pm

At this point, if we decide to stay at 9, I’m assuming we either draft a WR that falls to us or draft the top Edge. One of the two should be available. I don’t see how neither are lol
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Re: Bears 2024 4.0 

Post#45 » by heir_jordan22 » Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:09 pm

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fleet wrote:One might wonder if the small signings set the next big salary add on offense. Was hoping it would be on the top center in free agency. I don't know who else is on the board. But I wouldn't mind a scenario of bringing Tee Higgins over here. Then they can just draft Dallas Turner or whoever else edge and a lot has happened to set things up well. They have spent a ton of money on defense already.

Speaking of the Bulls, If Poles is keeping the cap flexible for a future splash, that's cool too. I imagine he was telling a lot of truth when he said he always wanted to stay cap healthy. The Bears don't have to max out the cap in 2024. And the top teams are most always built through the draft, not free agency. Folks talk about all the holes like it all has to be finished up this year.

Was Higgins tagged? I think we'd have to give up two first rounders but I'm not sure.



The 25-year-old was franchise-tagged by the Bengals after being unable to reach an agreement on a long-term deal this offseason and is now requesting a trade. The availability of the former first-round pick out of Clemson will surely draw interest from several teams around the league.....

Not only would a chance at trading for a receiver of Higgins' quality be enticing, but according to a new report from Bleacher Report's Jordan Schultz, the asking price of the Bengals may even make him a bargain.

"It's my understanding that it would take about a [second], maybe a [third-round pick], to get him," Schultz said in a recent interview on FS1's Speak. "So, if you're a Carolina or Tennessee, those are the two best fits for me if I'm trading for Tee Higgins. Not only do you have to trade a two or three, but then you have to pay him; that's a big ask, and that's why I don't believe Tee Higgins ultimately gets traded this year."


https://www.si.com/nfl/patriots/news/new-england-patriots-tee-higgins-cincinnati-bengals-trade-asking-price-revealed-worth-it-value

Definitely an interesting option if the Bengals are open to a trade. Comes down to the value of the receivers in this draft class on a rookie deal v Tee Higgins.
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Re: Bears 2024 4.0 

Post#46 » by Clint Eastwood » Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:13 pm

biggestbullsfan wrote:At this point, if we decide to stay at 9, I’m assuming we either draft a WR that falls to us or draft the top Edge. One of the two should be available. I don’t see how neither are lol

If we take defense at 9, caleb williams will be a bust. We literally have one NFL receiver on the team. We need to sign 2 in free agency and draft one at 9. We need at a minimum to add boyd or samuel, and draft odunze or thomas. Or instead sign calvin ridley, but he’s going back to jags im certain.
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Re: Bears 2024 4.0 

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Re: Bears 2024 4.0 

Post#48 » by biggestbullsfan » Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:17 pm

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biggestbullsfan wrote:At this point, if we decide to stay at 9, I’m assuming we either draft a WR that falls to us or draft the top Edge. One of the two should be available. I don’t see how neither are lol

If we take defense at 9, caleb williams will be a bust. We literally have one NFL receiver on the team. We need to sign 2 in free agency and draft one at 9. We need at a minimum to add boyd or samuel, and draft odunze or thomas. Or instead sign calvin ridley, but he’s going back to jags im certain.


We have other picks and this class is deep at WR. We can get some solid ones later on.
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Re: Bears 2024 4.0 

Post#49 » by fleet » Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:36 pm

The Bears got C-Mo right into the action hands-on. :D
I am convinced for no particular reason the Bears are landing JPJ by any means necessary.
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Re: Bears 2024 4.0 

Post#50 » by Kurt Heimlich » Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:38 pm

biggestbullsfan wrote:At this point, if we decide to stay at 9, I’m assuming we either draft a WR that falls to us or draft the top Edge. One of the two should be available. I don’t see how neither are lol


If 4 QB's go top 8 we're golden. One of MHJ, Nabers, Odunze, Alt, Turner will be there at #9. If McCarthy (or Maye?) fall to 9 and those top 5 are gone I gotta imagine you're playing the phones between Minny and Denver for that trade back for Verse/Latu/BTJ.
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Re: Bears 2024 4.0 

Post#51 » by Kurt Heimlich » Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:49 pm

fleet wrote:Texans are working on forming the exact team we wanted to form


Stroud is to Caleb as Anderson is to Turner as Mixon is to Swift as Tank Dell is to (3rd round 2024 WR stud pleaseeee). Mix in a little impact vet Edge (Sweat is to Hunter) and defensive minded head coaches and the similes are all over the place.
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Re: Bears 2024 4.0 

Post#52 » by panthermark » Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:51 pm

I am guessing Atl is going edge or Oline to protect Cousins.

I think a WR or Edge will be there. Will the Chargers now take Bowers or OL or trade down?
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Re: Bears 2024 4.0 

Post#53 » by JockItch43 » Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:00 am

panthermark wrote:I am guessing Atl is going edge or Oline to protect Cousins.

I think a WR or Edge will be there. Will the Chargers now take Bowers or OL or trade down?


I wanted Bowers at 9 if one of Odunze or Nabers isn't there. Now with us signing a TE I doubt that happens... but good thing that same signing might further encourage the Chargers to draft Bowers which would help possibly push one of those receivers to us at 9.
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Re: Bears 2024 4.0 

Post#54 » by heir_jordan22 » Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:02 am

fleet wrote:The Bears got C-Mo right into the action hands-on. :D
I am convinced for no particular reason the Bears are landing JPJ by any means necessary.
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I would love to get JPJ but i think we would have to trade down from 9 and he's probably going in the top 22. Multiple potential landong spots for him form 16-22.

We would have to sign a WR2 and a starting DE imo to warrant trading down from 9.
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Re: Bears 2024 4.0 

Post#55 » by dice » Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:07 am

fleet wrote:Texans are working on forming the exact team we wanted to form

if they get there it won't be because they signed hunter for 25 mil a year. sure beats giving the same money to sweat and throwing in a 2nd rounder, though (and maybe losing draft position #sweateffect)!
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Re: Bears 2024 4.0 

Post#56 » by dice » Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:13 am

heir_jordan22 wrote:
fleet wrote:The Bears got C-Mo right into the action hands-on. :D
I am convinced for no particular reason the Bears are landing JPJ by any means necessary.
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I would love to get JPJ but i think we would have to trade down from 9 and he's probably going in the top 22. Multiple potential landong spots for him form 16-22.

We would have to sign a WR2 and a starting DE imo to warrant trading down from 9.

unless there's a clear gap between EDGE 1 and 2/3 we should absolutely be trading down if no odunze

so watch poles trade down to like 13 and overdraft JPJ there. assuming a good RAS score, of course
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Re: Bears 2024 4.0 

Post#57 » by El Ridda » Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:15 am

dice wrote:
fleet wrote:Texans are working on forming the exact team we wanted to form

if they get there it won't be because they signed hunter for 25 mil a year. sure beats giving the same money to sweat and throwing in a 2nd rounder, though (and maybe losing draft position #sweateffect)!


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Re: Bears 2024 4.0 

Post#58 » by fleet » Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:17 am

dice wrote:
heir_jordan22 wrote:
fleet wrote:The Bears got C-Mo right into the action hands-on. :D
I am convinced for no particular reason the Bears are landing JPJ by any means necessary.
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I would love to get JPJ but i think we would have to trade down from 9 and he's probably going in the top 22. Multiple potential landong spots for him form 16-22.

We would have to sign a WR2 and a starting DE imo to warrant trading down from 9.

unless there's a clear gap between EDGE 1 and 2/3 we should absolutely be trading down if no odunze

so watch poles trade down to like 13 and overdraft JPJ there. assuming a good RAS score, of course

I don’t think JPJ is very athletic outside his immediate phone booth. It looks painful as he runs getting to second level blocks, pulling. He may not be the greatest scheme fit.
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Re: Bears 2024 4.0 

Post#59 » by Clint Eastwood » Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:22 am

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biggestbullsfan wrote:At this point, if we decide to stay at 9, I’m assuming we either draft a WR that falls to us or draft the top Edge. One of the two should be available. I don’t see how neither are lol

If we take defense at 9, caleb williams will be a bust. We literally have one NFL receiver on the team. We need to sign 2 in free agency and draft one at 9. We need at a minimum to add boyd or samuel, and draft odunze or thomas. Or instead sign calvin ridley, but he’s going back to jags im certain.


We have other picks and this class is deep at WR. We can get some solid ones later on.

We don’t need solid ones later on. We need two new starters ready to play day one with Caleb.
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Re: Bears 2024 4.0 

Post#60 » by dice » Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:26 am

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Hunter signed elsewhere on a reasonable contract.

Offseason so far

Retain HC with an abysmal record
Keep JF as of today
Big signing in FA is Deandre Swift
All major defensive lineman are gone in FA
Traded for a backup guard
Aging Safety
Depth signings.

What’s this grade thus far? C- ?

justin situation is easily the biggest stain. if poles actually was offered the pitt 2nd...whoooeee!

and if we passed on a reasonably priced proven starting C (spending similar money on a THIRD RB) only to end up w/ bates...

waiting on the WR situation...

hope mckinney doesn't end up giving caleb fits for the next 4 (6?) years too
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