Bears 2024 4.0

Post #1761 » by **fleet** » Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:01 pm

ThisGuyFawkes wrote:According to some reports I saw... Jayden Daniels' agent reported all of Jayden's Top-30 Visits and the Bears weren't on the list. Poles is not going to UNC's (Drake Maye's) pro day tomorrow.

That is 2017 all over again. Ridiculous. Only difference now is Poles kept his coach in the loop.

NecessaryEvil · Post #1762 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:03 pm

Read on Twitter

Jimako10 · Post #1763 » by **Jimako10** » Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:10 pm

Betta Bulleavit wrote:
Jimako10 wrote:I don't see how Caleb DOESN'T throw for 4k yards if he plays all 17 games. He's got a lot of mouths to feed on this team. If he's the real deal, he should be able to eclipse it. Sam Howell was about to obliterate 4k yards before they started tanking in the last 5 games and ended up only about 50 yards below 4k.

Like a couple of others have mentioned, the running game tends to be a rookie’s best friend. Especially early in the season. So it wouldn’t surprise me if he missed that mark this year.

Sure, but Deandre Swift is a good pass catching back that has only played 45% of snaps in his career (still not sure how he got that contract). I suspect a lot more dump offs and screens to RBs that should juice CW's total passing yards, along with more passing on 1st down (like in Seattle) from 2 TE formations.

Dresden · Post #1764 » by **Dresden** » Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:20 pm

fleet wrote:
ThisGuyFawkes wrote:According to some reports I saw... Jayden Daniels' agent reported all of Jayden's Top-30 Visits and the Bears weren't on the list. Poles is not going to UNC's (Drake Maye's) pro day tomorrow.

That is 2017 all over again. Ridiculous.

I have no problem with the fact that the Bears apparently have made their choice. If they believe they have enough information after watching all of Maye's tape, and whatever interactions they had with him at the combine, and are ready to rule him out, why bother with a scheduled visit? I don't know how much actual throwing gets done at an individual workout with a team, if any at all. And if that's why they're ruling him out (something they see on tape), then nothing he does at a visit is going to make a difference.

Same with Daniels- they're going to his pro day, I'm sure if they see something there that opens their eyes, they'll request a visit, but it sounds like they are pretty sure it's Caleb. Personally, I"m glad they feel so sure about one player.

Dresden · Post #1765 » by **Dresden** » Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:21 pm

NecessaryEvil wrote:

Read on Twitter

I'd much rather trade back to get a WR, then trade up for Nabors or Marv.

Dresden · Post #1766 » by **Dresden** » Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:26 pm

Jimako10 wrote:
Betta Bulleavit wrote:
Jimako10 wrote:I don't see how Caleb DOESN'T throw for 4k yards if he plays all 17 games. He's got a lot of mouths to feed on this team. If he's the real deal, he should be able to eclipse it. Sam Howell was about to obliterate 4k yards before they started tanking in the last 5 games and ended up only about 50 yards below 4k.

Like a couple of others have mentioned, the running game tends to be a rookie’s best friend. Especially early in the season. So it wouldn’t surprise me if he missed that mark this year.

Sure, but Deandre Swift is a good pass catching back that has only played 45% of snaps in his career (still not sure how he got that contract). I suspect a lot more dump offs and screens to RBs that should juice CW's total passing yards, along with more passing on 1st down (like in Seattle) from 2 TE formations.

“We just felt that we wanted a home-run hitter there,” said Eberflus. “I think D’Andre brings that. We wanted a weapon back – a guy who could be a weapon out of the backfield.”

That's their explanation as to why they went after Swift. His big play ability, plus his pass catching ability.

Post #1767 » by **fleet** » Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:33 pm

Spoiler:

The Nabors falling to 9 dream just died.

Read on Twitter

NecessaryEvil · Post #1768 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:43 pm

fleet wrote:
Spoiler:
NecessaryEvil wrote:

Read on Twitter

The Nabors falling to 9 dream just died.

Read on Twitter

Yeah, I been feeling like it was over for awhile, that was the nail in the coffin.

My favorite receiver in this draft.

CROBulls · Post #1769 » by **CROBulls** » Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:46 pm

fleet wrote:
ThisGuyFawkes wrote:According to some reports I saw... Jayden Daniels' agent reported all of Jayden's Top-30 Visits and the Bears weren't on the list. Poles is not going to UNC's (Drake Maye's) pro day tomorrow.

That is 2017 all over again. Ridiculous. Only difference now is Poles kept his coach in the loop.

It's not. Williams is top tier prospect as prospect itself in this class, let alone in QB class. It just doesnt matter who else is in QB class. Doesnt have anything with due diligence. There is 3 years of tape on Williams. He is the guy.

It's like when Lebron James getting picked up in draft and you want to draft him because he is by clear #1. It doesnt matter if there is Carmelo Anthony in draft.

NecessaryEvil · Post #1770 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:48 pm

Read on Twitter

With Flus talking about blue chip prospects at 1 & 9, this rumor makes more sense. Somehow, I always had a feeling Odunze would be a Bear.

I'd rather add Brock and pick up a 2nd for Thomas Jr. though.

But, that's just me.

Post #1771 » by **fleet** » Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:49 pm

NecessaryEvil wrote:
fleet wrote:
Spoiler:
NecessaryEvil wrote:

Read on Twitter

The Nabors falling to 9 dream just died.

Read on Twitter

Yeah, I been feeling like it was over for awhile, that was the nail in the coffin.

My favorite receiver in this draft.

Odunze has been close enough in reputation so far that he would be a really nice consolation prize. From what I have heard today, Keenan Allen will want a huge no compromise deal after this season, or extension. That doesn’t sound like our move with Odunze sitting there as an alternative.

Kurt Heimlich · Post #1772 » by **Kurt Heimlich** » Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:50 pm

Dresden wrote:
NecessaryEvil wrote:

Read on Twitter

I'd much rather trade back to get a WR, then trade up for Nabors or Marv.

Everyone knew Nabers was a burner (everyone who's actually seen him play at least). BTJ was the biggest eye opener to me back at the combine and he showed that speed (at his elite size) again today. We need to find a willing buyer of course, but if we could trade back to 17-20 range and grab a 2nd, its hard not to like that Verse/Latu/Murphy/BTJ range of guys in that 16-19 mocked range. That requires a lot of the OT's to go in that 10-15 pick run, but truthfully some of those guys could be in the "blue chip" tier for Poles as well.

Dresden · Post #1773 » by **Dresden** » Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:09 pm

I read today that the Bears were hoping to sign Allen to an extension soon. It sounded like they want to lock him up for at least a few more years.

If they think they can do that, taking a WR at 9 really seems like a luxury- almost as much as taking Brock would be. Edge is a much bigger need than a WR3.

NecessaryEvil · Post #1774 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:00 pm

Read on Twitter

NecessaryEvil · Post #1775 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:01 pm

Read on Twitter

This dude about to ball out in Chicago. That dome is everything lol

CROBulls · Post #1776 » by **CROBulls** » Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:05 pm

Dresden wrote:I read today that the Bears were hoping to sign Allen to an extension soon. It sounded like they want to lock him up for at least a few more years.

If they think they can do that, taking a WR at 9 really seems like a luxury- almost as much as taking Brock would be. Edge is a much bigger need than a WR3.

You dont skip on great WR prospect just because you need edge. If good edge is there you take him, otherwise do not skip on luxury and depth of weapons like WR. You take BPA available. Also there is nothing wrong having elite prospect WR learning from two great WR's. It's a comfort.

Just to be clear, I would prefer elite edge over elite WR prospect, but if there is such prospect he wont be there at #9 be sure of that. It's simply not realistic or highly possible to build entire team in one offseason with no weaknesses.

Post #1777 » by **fleet** » Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:27 pm

NecessaryEvil wrote:

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

With Flus talking about blue chip prospects at 1 & 9, this rumor makes more sense. Somehow, I always had a feeling Odunze would be a Bear.

I'd rather add Brock and pick up a 2nd for Thomas Jr. though.

But, that's just me.

I like the idea of Thomas. I don’t know what makes him different from Kevin White as a prospect. Bybthat I mean, I don’t know. Not that I am accusing him of being Kevin White. With BT measurables, he isn’t mocked as high as one would think. Granted, he might though if the big 3 weren’t in this draft. But I want to know why he’s not supposed to be on that tier of player. But, even if not an alpha he is the type of 3rd X “type” receiver the team can use as a complement.

JockItch43 · Post #1778 » by **JockItch43** » Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:48 pm

Dresden wrote:
NecessaryEvil wrote:

Read on Twitter

I'd much rather trade back to get a WR, then trade up for Nabors or Marv.

Could probably trade back a little further to make sure we recoup a 2nd this year... I wouldn't be opposed to it. I'd definitely wait until the day of the draft to make sure we don't miss out on a player we highly value falling to us.

Also starting to believe Nabers might be WR1 in this class.

JockItch43 · Post #1779 » by **JockItch43** » Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:52 pm

NecessaryEvil wrote:

Read on Twitter

As well they should, I just don't see them trading up and him falling to 9 is a long shot. I doubt this impacts their decisional all, but Caleb was very friendly with Nabers and was tied to his hip a bit. Wonder if by any chance CW lobbied for him.

JockItch43 · Post #1780 » by **JockItch43** » Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:55 pm

fleet wrote:
Spoiler:
NecessaryEvil wrote:

Read on Twitter

The Nabors falling to 9 dream just died.

Read on Twitter

Not laser timed so there still might be a chance (yeah right). Him falling to 9 was always a pipe dream IMO.

He might end up being an even more explosive version of DJ. Maybe not the most complimentary piece, but boy oh boy. Would be our version of Tyreek and Waddle.