Image ImageImage Image

Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time

Moderators: HomoSapien, kulaz3000, Michael Jackson, Ice Man, dougthonus, Tommy Udo 6 , DASMACKDOWN, GimmeDat, Payt10, RedBulls23, coldfish, AshyLarrysDiaper, fleet

User avatar
NecessaryEvil
General Manager
Posts: 9,500
And1: 7,131
Joined: Jun 12, 2014
 

Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#801 » by NecessaryEvil » Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:42 pm

Read on Twitter


Rome @ 9

Read on Twitter
User avatar
Chicago-Bull-E
RealGM
Posts: 15,994
And1: 7,303
Joined: Jun 27, 2008

Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#802 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:43 pm

Read on Twitter


Bears QB2 in 2025
KC: Do you still think you're a championship-caliber team?
Gar: I never said that and correct me if I'm wrong
Mindcrime
Sophomore
Posts: 175
And1: 74
Joined: May 01, 2006
Location: Bulgaria

Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#803 » by Mindcrime » Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:45 pm

• #Bears aren’t married to WR at 9 — OT and EDGE are also options, while trading down remains a possibility as well

Let's rephrase it: I am not picking WR at 9 and if my top OT and EDGE are gone I am trading down and geting assets.
User avatar
TheSuzerain
RealGM
Posts: 16,749
And1: 10,884
Joined: Mar 29, 2012

Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#804 » by TheSuzerain » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:06 pm

Assuming they have elite grades on all the WRs and Alt. I'd just take any of them that remains (since likely only one would remain at most?).

If all are gone (bad luck!), I guess you consider Bowers, but I would also strongly consider a trade-down in that case.
dice
RealGM
Posts: 43,086
And1: 12,586
Joined: Jun 30, 2003
Location: chicago

Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#805 » by dice » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:09 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:I wouldn't be happy with Murphy.

We had a truly elite DT prospect fall in our lap last year. We passed for a non-elite OT.

and took DTs in rounds 2 and 3, passing on good WRs

murphy would be a disastrous outcome unless he approaches carter's production. even then it would be diluting the value of last year's DT picks, making passing on dell, rice and mims all the more glaring
the donald, always unpopular, did worse in EVERY state in 2020. and by a greater margin in red states! 50 independently-run elections, none of them rigged
User avatar
TheSuzerain
RealGM
Posts: 16,749
And1: 10,884
Joined: Mar 29, 2012

Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#806 » by TheSuzerain » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:12 pm

dice wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:I wouldn't be happy with Murphy.

We had a truly elite DT prospect fall in our lap last year. We passed for a non-elite OT.

and took DTs in rounds 2 and 3, passing on good WRs

Yeah not going WR at top of round 3 was a mistake. Was a huge run on good WRs that round.

But given where we're currently at, it's all water under the bridge really.
dice
RealGM
Posts: 43,086
And1: 12,586
Joined: Jun 30, 2003
Location: chicago

Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#807 » by dice » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:15 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:Assuming they have elite grades on all the WRs and Alt. I'd just take any of them that remains (since likely only one would remain at most?).

If all are gone (bad luck!), I guess you consider Bowers, but I would also strongly consider a trade-down in that case.

braxton is poles's draft jewel to date. the guy who validates his supposed O-line acumen. and the O-line coach likes him too

if alt falls to 9, you trade back with a team who has a glaring need. GMing 101
the donald, always unpopular, did worse in EVERY state in 2020. and by a greater margin in red states! 50 independently-run elections, none of them rigged
biggestbullsfan
RealGM
Posts: 12,166
And1: 1,915
Joined: Apr 28, 2004
     

Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#808 » by biggestbullsfan » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:15 pm

Read on Twitter


:lol:
dice
RealGM
Posts: 43,086
And1: 12,586
Joined: Jun 30, 2003
Location: chicago

Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#809 » by dice » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:17 pm

Mindcrime wrote:• #Bears aren’t married to WR at 9 — OT and EDGE are also options, while trading down remains a possibility as well

Let's rephrase it: I am not picking WR at 9 and if my top OT and EDGE are gone I am trading down and geting assets.

why in the world would you turn your nose up at an elite WR prospect when the #2 guy is both old and not under contract beyond this year?
the donald, always unpopular, did worse in EVERY state in 2020. and by a greater margin in red states! 50 independently-run elections, none of them rigged
Dresden
RealGM
Posts: 12,255
And1: 5,938
Joined: Nov 02, 2017
       

Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#810 » by Dresden » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:19 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:
dice wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:I wouldn't be happy with Murphy.

We had a truly elite DT prospect fall in our lap last year. We passed for a non-elite OT.

and took DTs in rounds 2 and 3, passing on good WRs

Yeah not going WR at top of round 3 was a mistake. Was a huge run on good WRs that round.

But given where we're currently at, it's all water under the bridge really.


I think it was a case not being able to fill all the holes in one draft. They were last in the league in stopping the run- the D line was a priority. they bounced back by getting Allen for a 4th, and now just need to scour up a 2nd/3rd pick somehow to get that last WR.
dice
RealGM
Posts: 43,086
And1: 12,586
Joined: Jun 30, 2003
Location: chicago

Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#811 » by dice » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:20 pm

nitetrain8603 wrote:No new taxes for residents. Bears paying half, seemingly, and the rest from existing taxes. Not upset with that. Stadium actually looks futuristic which I love. Domed. We might get a Wrestlemania. Reusing the collonades for a park where the old Soldier Field is. Looks like a good amount of park space.

Also, can we stop this Bowers talk. He wouldn't see the field and would be the biggest waste of a pick with Kmet and Everett already here. You win with impact players on rookie contracts. He, on the Bears, wouldn't be that, unfortunately.

:roll:
the donald, always unpopular, did worse in EVERY state in 2020. and by a greater margin in red states! 50 independently-run elections, none of them rigged
User avatar
TheSuzerain
RealGM
Posts: 16,749
And1: 10,884
Joined: Mar 29, 2012

Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#812 » by TheSuzerain » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:24 pm

dice wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:Assuming they have elite grades on all the WRs and Alt. I'd just take any of them that remains (since likely only one would remain at most?).

If all are gone (bad luck!), I guess you consider Bowers, but I would also strongly consider a trade-down in that case.

braxton is poles's draft jewel to date. the guy who validates his supposed O-line acumen. and the O-line coach likes him too

if alt falls to 9, you trade back with a team who has a glaring need. GMing 101

Depends how they rate Alt at the end of the day. And I don't see why Jones wouldn't have trade value himself.

Also, you could play Alt, Jones, and Wright on the line together (with Wright likely kicking inside).

And this is under the assumption that they have a crazy high grade on Alt (like best OT since Sewell or something). If they don't have him graded so high, then yeah trade down.
User avatar
NecessaryEvil
General Manager
Posts: 9,500
And1: 7,131
Joined: Jun 12, 2014
 

Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#813 » by NecessaryEvil » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:32 pm

Read on Twitter
Dresden
RealGM
Posts: 12,255
And1: 5,938
Joined: Nov 02, 2017
       

Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#814 » by Dresden » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:36 pm

Steelers not picking up Justin's option is not a surprise, is it? He apparently wants to be there, and he'll have a chance to compete for the starting job this year, and for sure next year. So it's not too likely he'll bolt. 25 mil is a lot of put down for a guy who is your backup/maybe starter.
Mindcrime
Sophomore
Posts: 175
And1: 74
Joined: May 01, 2006
Location: Bulgaria

Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#815 » by Mindcrime » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:40 pm

dice wrote:
Mindcrime wrote:• #Bears aren’t married to WR at 9 — OT and EDGE are also options, while trading down remains a possibility as well

Let's rephrase it: I am not picking WR at 9 and if my top OT and EDGE are gone I am trading down and geting assets.

why in the world would you turn your nose up at an elite WR prospect when the #2 guy is both old and not under contract beyond this year?


Because you need a true 3-tech and you got thin on the D-line without addressing at FA? Look I love me some flashy Odunze/Nabors/Bowers type of pick, but you could take the best DT in the draft while also recuperating a 2nd where you could get a verry good WR.
dice
RealGM
Posts: 43,086
And1: 12,586
Joined: Jun 30, 2003
Location: chicago

Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#816 » by dice » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:51 pm

Mindcrime wrote:
dice wrote:
Mindcrime wrote:• #Bears aren’t married to WR at 9 — OT and EDGE are also options, while trading down remains a possibility as well

Let's rephrase it: I am not picking WR at 9 and if my top OT and EDGE are gone I am trading down and geting assets.

why in the world would you turn your nose up at an elite WR prospect when the #2 guy is both old and not under contract beyond this year?


Because you need a true 3-tech and you got thin on the D-line without addressing at FA? Look I love me some flashy Odunze/Nabors/Bowers type of pick, but you could take the best DT in the draft while also recuperating a 2nd where you could get a verry good WR.

yeah, but WR is both vastly more important and much more of a crapshoot beyond the top 3. you can draft another DT later too and handle the interior by committee. surely last year's picks weren't taken not to play a lot
the donald, always unpopular, did worse in EVERY state in 2020. and by a greater margin in red states! 50 independently-run elections, none of them rigged
User avatar
Chicago-Bull-E
RealGM
Posts: 15,994
And1: 7,303
Joined: Jun 27, 2008

Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#817 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:55 pm

Why did they spend picks 53 and 64 last year on defensive tackles to turn right back around and use 9? There were good players available at those slots.

Silly use of their limited draft assets.

I won't be surprised if Murphy is who they selected, but I will be pretty disappointed.
KC: Do you still think you're a championship-caliber team?
Gar: I never said that and correct me if I'm wrong
User avatar
El Ridda
Rookie
Posts: 1,150
And1: 168
Joined: Jul 01, 2006
Location: Berkeley, CA

Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#818 » by El Ridda » Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:00 pm

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Why did they spend picks 53 and 64 last year on defensive tackles to turn right back around and use 9? There were good players available at those slots.

Silly use of their limited draft assets.

I won't be surprised if Murphy is who they selected, but I will be pretty disappointed.


I’m going to be psyched whoever they pick. See the fact that we have 2 high firsts as a huge bonus, and mostly I trust the bears front office.

Don’t set yourself up for disappointment! Tell yourself that, if they pick Murphy, it’s for a reason and he is probably going to be a stud.

That said, if the bears pick Verse at 9 (no trade back) I will be disappointed. How’s that for logic and consistency.
Cup of Cognac, Hidden Dime Sack.
_txchilibowl_
Starter
Posts: 2,111
And1: 2,186
Joined: Aug 17, 2017
     

Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#819 » by _txchilibowl_ » Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:12 pm

In what world do you only need to defensive tackles, neither of whom are elite?

Flus has repeatedly said that the 3-technique is the engine that drives his defensive philosophy. It makes total sense that they'd be targeting the top DT in the draft. I think people are hung up on pre-combine rankings and mocks. Murphy has elevated himself since then and likely won't last past the top 15 picks.
User avatar
NecessaryEvil
General Manager
Posts: 9,500
And1: 7,131
Joined: Jun 12, 2014
 

Re: Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time 

Post#820 » by NecessaryEvil » Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:24 pm

Read on Twitter


Read on Twitter

Return to Chicago Bulls