Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time
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• #Bears aren’t married to WR at 9 — OT and EDGE are also options, while trading down remains a possibility as well
Let's rephrase it: I am not picking WR at 9 and if my top OT and EDGE are gone I am trading down and geting assets.
Let's rephrase it: I am not picking WR at 9 and if my top OT and EDGE are gone I am trading down and geting assets.
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Assuming they have elite grades on all the WRs and Alt. I'd just take any of them that remains (since likely only one would remain at most?).
If all are gone (bad luck!), I guess you consider Bowers, but I would also strongly consider a trade-down in that case.
If all are gone (bad luck!), I guess you consider Bowers, but I would also strongly consider a trade-down in that case.
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TheSuzerain wrote:I wouldn't be happy with Murphy.
We had a truly elite DT prospect fall in our lap last year. We passed for a non-elite OT.
and took DTs in rounds 2 and 3, passing on good WRs
murphy would be a disastrous outcome unless he approaches carter's production. even then it would be diluting the value of last year's DT picks, making passing on dell, rice and mims all the more glaring
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dice wrote:TheSuzerain wrote:I wouldn't be happy with Murphy.
We had a truly elite DT prospect fall in our lap last year. We passed for a non-elite OT.
and took DTs in rounds 2 and 3, passing on good WRs
Yeah not going WR at top of round 3 was a mistake. Was a huge run on good WRs that round.
But given where we're currently at, it's all water under the bridge really.
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TheSuzerain wrote:Assuming they have elite grades on all the WRs and Alt. I'd just take any of them that remains (since likely only one would remain at most?).
If all are gone (bad luck!), I guess you consider Bowers, but I would also strongly consider a trade-down in that case.
braxton is poles's draft jewel to date. the guy who validates his supposed O-line acumen. and the O-line coach likes him too
if alt falls to 9, you trade back with a team who has a glaring need. GMing 101
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Mindcrime wrote:• #Bears aren’t married to WR at 9 — OT and EDGE are also options, while trading down remains a possibility as well
Let's rephrase it: I am not picking WR at 9 and if my top OT and EDGE are gone I am trading down and geting assets.
why in the world would you turn your nose up at an elite WR prospect when the #2 guy is both old and not under contract beyond this year?
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TheSuzerain wrote:dice wrote:TheSuzerain wrote:I wouldn't be happy with Murphy.
We had a truly elite DT prospect fall in our lap last year. We passed for a non-elite OT.
and took DTs in rounds 2 and 3, passing on good WRs
Yeah not going WR at top of round 3 was a mistake. Was a huge run on good WRs that round.
But given where we're currently at, it's all water under the bridge really.
I think it was a case not being able to fill all the holes in one draft. They were last in the league in stopping the run- the D line was a priority. they bounced back by getting Allen for a 4th, and now just need to scour up a 2nd/3rd pick somehow to get that last WR.
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nitetrain8603 wrote:No new taxes for residents. Bears paying half, seemingly, and the rest from existing taxes. Not upset with that. Stadium actually looks futuristic which I love. Domed. We might get a Wrestlemania. Reusing the collonades for a park where the old Soldier Field is. Looks like a good amount of park space.
Also, can we stop this Bowers talk. He wouldn't see the field and would be the biggest waste of a pick with Kmet and Everett already here. You win with impact players on rookie contracts. He, on the Bears, wouldn't be that, unfortunately.
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dice wrote:TheSuzerain wrote:Assuming they have elite grades on all the WRs and Alt. I'd just take any of them that remains (since likely only one would remain at most?).
If all are gone (bad luck!), I guess you consider Bowers, but I would also strongly consider a trade-down in that case.
braxton is poles's draft jewel to date. the guy who validates his supposed O-line acumen. and the O-line coach likes him too
if alt falls to 9, you trade back with a team who has a glaring need. GMing 101
Depends how they rate Alt at the end of the day. And I don't see why Jones wouldn't have trade value himself.
Also, you could play Alt, Jones, and Wright on the line together (with Wright likely kicking inside).
And this is under the assumption that they have a crazy high grade on Alt (like best OT since Sewell or something). If they don't have him graded so high, then yeah trade down.
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Steelers not picking up Justin's option is not a surprise, is it? He apparently wants to be there, and he'll have a chance to compete for the starting job this year, and for sure next year. So it's not too likely he'll bolt. 25 mil is a lot of put down for a guy who is your backup/maybe starter.
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dice wrote:Mindcrime wrote:• #Bears aren’t married to WR at 9 — OT and EDGE are also options, while trading down remains a possibility as well
Let's rephrase it: I am not picking WR at 9 and if my top OT and EDGE are gone I am trading down and geting assets.
why in the world would you turn your nose up at an elite WR prospect when the #2 guy is both old and not under contract beyond this year?
Because you need a true 3-tech and you got thin on the D-line without addressing at FA? Look I love me some flashy Odunze/Nabors/Bowers type of pick, but you could take the best DT in the draft while also recuperating a 2nd where you could get a verry good WR.
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Mindcrime wrote:dice wrote:Mindcrime wrote:• #Bears aren’t married to WR at 9 — OT and EDGE are also options, while trading down remains a possibility as well
Let's rephrase it: I am not picking WR at 9 and if my top OT and EDGE are gone I am trading down and geting assets.
why in the world would you turn your nose up at an elite WR prospect when the #2 guy is both old and not under contract beyond this year?
Because you need a true 3-tech and you got thin on the D-line without addressing at FA? Look I love me some flashy Odunze/Nabors/Bowers type of pick, but you could take the best DT in the draft while also recuperating a 2nd where you could get a verry good WR.
yeah, but WR is both vastly more important and much more of a crapshoot beyond the top 3. you can draft another DT later too and handle the interior by committee. surely last year's picks weren't taken not to play a lot
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Why did they spend picks 53 and 64 last year on defensive tackles to turn right back around and use 9? There were good players available at those slots.
Silly use of their limited draft assets.
I won't be surprised if Murphy is who they selected, but I will be pretty disappointed.
Silly use of their limited draft assets.
I won't be surprised if Murphy is who they selected, but I will be pretty disappointed.
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Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Why did they spend picks 53 and 64 last year on defensive tackles to turn right back around and use 9? There were good players available at those slots.
Silly use of their limited draft assets.
I won't be surprised if Murphy is who they selected, but I will be pretty disappointed.
I’m going to be psyched whoever they pick. See the fact that we have 2 high firsts as a huge bonus, and mostly I trust the bears front office.
Don’t set yourself up for disappointment! Tell yourself that, if they pick Murphy, it’s for a reason and he is probably going to be a stud.
That said, if the bears pick Verse at 9 (no trade back) I will be disappointed. How’s that for logic and consistency.
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In what world do you only need to defensive tackles, neither of whom are elite?
Flus has repeatedly said that the 3-technique is the engine that drives his defensive philosophy. It makes total sense that they'd be targeting the top DT in the draft. I think people are hung up on pre-combine rankings and mocks. Murphy has elevated himself since then and likely won't last past the top 15 picks.
Flus has repeatedly said that the 3-technique is the engine that drives his defensive philosophy. It makes total sense that they'd be targeting the top DT in the draft. I think people are hung up on pre-combine rankings and mocks. Murphy has elevated himself since then and likely won't last past the top 15 picks.
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