Fire Don Mattingly

[Neddy]

he has to go and go now. I don't have to write every single mistake he made during this series against the Cards, do I? anyone who has watched all the games would know instantly when this thread is seen.

Kilroy, do me a favor and stickie this thread during this off season. i would like to have every dodger fan who has seen enough of this incompetency at the top with Donnie to sport a "fire Don Mattingly" phrase under their sigs. I want every caring dodger fans who are aware of Donnie's complete utter lack if managerial skills to spread the word all over the internet and have everyone on board. I even read a major sports site from south korea who directly challenged Donnie's ability to manage a baseball team after pulling Ryu prematurely in game 3 by having the best slugging power hitter to pinch hit in 7th with no outs and nobody on which led to Ryu's end of the night as well as no chance at double switch as the last out to even give this power hitter another chance at bat later. it's not a secret, the whole world who knows baseball that watched now knows how inept Mattingly is at his job and moronic and a panic move it was to give him that extension.

Guggenheim needs to swallow their pride and eat his contract. Donnie cannot stay if we want to win anything anytime in near future. otherwise if Donnie stays, all we will ever be celebrating are clenching the NLW over the Giants while SF continues their success in a short series and go deep into the playoffs.

[Ranma]

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[Neddy]

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I started a petition on Change.Org called FireDonMattingly.

https://www.change.org/p/to-the-los-ang ... -mattingly

please let every dodger fan you know who feel the same way know.

thanks.

[Fresh360Waves]

I can't stand the people that are defending Mattingly. How can you defend a manager that can't make basic tactical decisions and makes basic mistakes like knowing when and when not to take a pitcher out? I would be a little easy on him if this happened occasionally but this has happened for the last few yrs. I think Coletti should be considered for removal in addition.

Manager Candidates?
- Lorenzo Bundy (Something about him that makes me feel he'd be a good manager. If not w/ the Dodgers, maybe elsewhere down the line)
- Joe Maddon (Maybe the Dodgers can try to pry him out of TB. It's not like they'll be going anywhere)
- Bud Black (Same thing w/ Black. Good manager on a bad team)
- Mike Scioscia (Ex-Dodger and has been a solid manager for the Angels for the most part and I think he will likely get fired. It's time for a fresh start over there in Anaheim)
- Ron Washington (If he gets his issues handled, I think he's someone to consider)

Any other good candidates?

[Neddy]

I can't stand the people that are defending Mattingly. How can you defend a manager that can't make basic tactical decisions and makes basic mistakes like knowing when and when not to take a pitcher out? I would be a little easy on him if this happened occasionally but this has happened for the last few yrs. I think Coletti should be considered for removal in addition.

Manager Candidates?
- Lorenzo Bundy (Something about him that makes me feel he'd be a good manager. If not w/ the Dodgers, maybe elsewhere down the line)
- Joe Maddon (Maybe the Dodgers can try to pry him out of TB. It's not like they'll be going anywhere)
- Bud Black (Same thing w/ Black. Good manager on a bad team)
- Mike Scioscia (Ex-Dodger and has been a solid manager for the Angels for the most part and I think he will likely get fired. It's time for a fresh start over there in Anaheim)
- Ron Washington (If he gets his issues handled, I think he's someone to consider)

Any other good candidates?

if fired by the angels, Mike Scioscia is it. en ex dodger, a former catcher, championship experience, plenty of playoff experience year in year out, and most of all, he knows how to manage pitching changes.

while at it, please read and sign on the petition, and let your fellow dodger fans know about it. having relocated to northwest more than a decade ago, there are very few fellow dodger fans I interact with daily. gotta get Don Mattingly out along with Ned Colletti. thanks in advance.

[Neddy]

my dream scenario would be to have Logan White be our GM and Mike Scioscia as our manager. but the way things look we are stuck with Ned and Donnie.

[Kilroy]

Not anymore... But I wonder if Donnie gets canned now... I doubt it.

[Quake Griffin]

Friedman has played the game. I have all the faith in the world that he knows Donnie aint **** as a manager.

So I'm hoping/ thinking that his decision not to fire him is a part of some other reasoning....like, maybe he didn't want to step in and fire this guy on day one without feeling around the clubhouse, meeting the players etc. etc.

1. Scioscia (does not look like he'll be fired).
2. Maddon
3. Bud Black

i think Black might be the most accessible but I doubt the Padres let go of him to help us.

[Neddy]

Friedman has played the game. I have all the faith in the world that he knows Donnie aint **** as a manager.

So I'm hoping/ thinking that his decision not to fire him is a part of some other reasoning....like, maybe he didn't want to step in and fire this guy on day one without feeling around the clubhouse, meeting the players etc. etc.

1. Scioscia (does not look like he'll be fired).
2. Maddon
3. Bud Black

i think Black might be the most accessible but I doubt the Padres let go of him to help us.

yeah Im **** sad that the angels are smart enough not to fire Mike. Don needs to go and all i can hope is andrew knows what to do. the guggenheim promoted(?) Ned because of the newly signed guaranteed extension and didn't want to look like fools that they are to fire Ned all together. but where would Don go if not fired? he too have that minty extension that the ink has barely dried. i can't see a franchise on this planet including the australian league and the taiwanese league that would trade their manger for Donnie salty balls. we just gonna have to eat his contract and move on. that's the only solution i see. if we keep Donnie for any foreseeable future just because Stan was stupid enough to give him his extension too, then Stan needs to go.

[Kilroy]

Well it looks like Mattingly got the green light... What the hell does that mean if your Friedman? And for how long?

[Ranma]

Like Colletti, Mattingly is a placeholder until another more suitable replacement is either available or ready to take over. I don't have a problem with this approach. Dodgers management decided to give Mattingly an extension so he couldn't use the lame-duck status as an excuse, which only serves to strengthen their position should he under-perform again. Who knows? Maybe he'll break through and finally hit his stride as a manager.

Also, 2015 looks to be a more ripe opportunity to make a managerial change given the lack of viable candidates right now. Maddon will either be extended or available by then. Scioscia may be fired by the Angels if Arte Moreno continues to not see more bang for his buck. Tim Wallach will have another year of experience in the Dodgers dugout in his apprenticeship.

I'm personally partial to Mike Scioscia, but I am concerned with his overworking his pitchers. Maddon sounds like a great fit given his relationship with Friedman, but I suspect Tampa Bay will extend him on a long-term contract to preserve continuity in the aftermath of losing their top executive recently. I also wouldn't mind seeing what Wallach can do as a respected in-house option being groomed for the position, much like Scioscia was before the Fox screw-up.

[Ranma]

Joe Maddon looking to capitalize on market demand for his coaching services. Cubs looks like the front-runner and a great fit given their push to get into the postseason with a lot of young players in the fold who could be molded as team fixtures.

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[Quake Griffin]

i think it's best to stay away because it seems like it would make for such an easy tampering case.

i have NO IDEA how the Cubs would more susceptible to a tampering charge than say the Twins or something.


but whatever, I want Maddon.

[Ranma]

I concur. Joe Maddon looks like he was hellbent on leaving Tampa Bay and the Rays organization is not taking too kindly to it with suspicions that he already had an offer in hand. Maddon supposedly wants big-money in a big market reportedly seeking 5 years at $25 million. The Twins were the only team to have a managerial opening prior to the bombshell, but they are not going to pay that kind of coin.

The Dodgers are being smart about this in not making their interest public with strong denials. This not only protects Mattingly's fragile confidence and ego, but it also protects them from any controversy. Regardless of how this plays out, you can be sure that Maddon's agent, Alan Nero, will check in with the Dodgers to make sure they will not match or beat an offer they'll secure elsewhere (Chicago?). The advantage in our situation is that we are the one being pursued given the current circumstances as opposed to the pursuer.

The way things are playing out in the media, it even seems orchestrated to insulate the Dodgers from accusations even if it may be a misdirection. Maddon is even saying things like he just wants to work next season even taking a TV gig for a year or so should an opportunity not present itself, but his preference is to be in the dugout.

[Quake Griffin]

Mattingly and his wife are expecting.

maybe we'll be nice to him given that.
nah, IDC....he'd still be on our dollar.


get rid of the guy.

[Neddy]

Mattingly and his wife are expecting.

maybe we'll be nice to him given that.
nah, IDC....he'd still be on our dollar.


get rid of the guy.

jesus, Mattingly is still breeding?

[Quake Griffin]

Mattingly and his wife are expecting.

maybe we'll be nice to him given that.
nah, IDC....he'd still be on our dollar.


get rid of the guy.

jesus, Mattingly is still breeding?

Im not gonna say that I hope I'm still breeding by 53.

but I do hope I'm not shooting blanks at that point.

[Neddy]

Mattingly and his wife are expecting.

maybe we'll be nice to him given that.
nah, IDC....he'd still be on our dollar.


get rid of the guy.

jesus, Mattingly is still breeding?

Im not gonna say that I hope I'm still breeding by 53.

but I do hope I'm not shooting blanks at that point.

dude, when you pass 40 and from there on, shooting blanks isn't the issue. the fact that you can still shoot, is the issue. in fact, i want to shoot blanks. i have enough kids already. gonna ask about vasectomy for my next visit with my physician.

[Ranma]

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[Quake Griffin]

tonight makes me even more angry that Donnie is still our skipper.

**** him.