Game 19: Trailblazers @ Cavs 11/30/2023

[ijspeelman]

[Iwasawitness]

I have a feeling we aren’t going to win this one. It feels like the Cavs aren’t taking the blazers seriously.

[jasonxxx102]

Can’t wait to see how people justify this one.

Everything is fine, right? RIGHT?

Just a home embarrassment against the worst team in the league. Nothing to worry about at all.

[afarmenian]

Tell tale sign of a mediocre organization. blowout of a fringr playoff team at home and horrific loss to of the worst teams in the nba at home the very next game.

This team is joyless to watch. Coasting and half assing like they are they are the geriatric lakers

[JujitsuFlip]

JB deserves to be called out. Literally only played 8 guys, just to lose... In November.

You cannot be satisfied, idc how much any Cavs fan tries to defend JB, there's nothing justifiable here.

[jasonxxx102]

JB deserves to be called out. Literally only played 8 guys, just to lose... In November.

You cannot be satisfied, idc how much any Cavs fan tries to defend JB, there's nothing justifiable here.

He doesn’t know how to do anything else. He can’t adapt. There’s no in game adjustments, nothing.

[JujitsuFlip]

JB deserves to be called out. Literally only played 8 guys, just to lose... In November.

You cannot be satisfied, idc how much any Cavs fan tries to defend JB, there's nothing justifiable here.

He doesn’t know how to do anything else. He can’t adapt. There’s no in game adjustments, nothing.

Guy is turds and some people sing his praises, miss me with that crap.

[jasonxxx102]

JB deserves to be called out. Literally only played 8 guys, just to lose... In November.

You cannot be satisfied, idc how much any Cavs fan tries to defend JB, there's nothing justifiable here.

He doesn’t know how to do anything else. He can’t adapt. There’s no in game adjustments, nothing.

Guy is turds and some people sing his praises, miss me with that crap.

The worst part is that it’s been blatantly obvious all season but people hide behind 100 different excuses.

What’s the excuse now?

[JujitsuFlip]

He doesn’t know how to do anything else. He can’t adapt. There’s no in game adjustments, nothing.

Guy is turds and some people sing his praises, miss me with that crap.

The worst part is that it’s been blatantly obvious all season but people hide behind 100 different excuses.

What’s the excuse now?

Probably will say Rubio hasn't reported yet LOL

How often JB publicly lies would be enough to fire him, if he worked for me. Guy is a knucklehead.

[toooskies]

Or, Garland and Mitchell need to stop calling their own number every play. We were looking great early. Then the hero ball, isos, passes chucked into the third row of seats.

This is our first loss to a bad team this year and probably won't be the last, but we'd better use this loss as a lesson to clean up some selfish, sloppy play.

[JujitsuFlip]

Or, Garland and Mitchell need to stop calling their own number every play. We were looking great early. Then the hero ball, isos, passes chucked into the third row of seats.

This is our first loss to a bad team this year and probably won't be the last, but we'd better use this loss as a lesson to clean up some selfish, sloppy play.

Seems like that is explicitly a coaches job...

[jbk1234]

Or, Garland and Mitchell need to stop calling their own number every play. We were looking great early. Then the hero ball, isos, passes chucked into the third row of seats.

This is our first loss to a bad team this year and probably won't be the last, but we'd better use this loss as a lesson to clean up some selfish, sloppy play.

The clock is running on those two playing with any type of synergy though.

[JujitsuFlip]

JB looked absolutely dejected answering those questions in the post game.

[ijspeelman]

Or, Garland and Mitchell need to stop calling their own number every play. We were looking great early. Then the hero ball, isos, passes chucked into the third row of seats.

This is our first loss to a bad team this year and probably won't be the last, but we'd better use this loss as a lesson to clean up some selfish, sloppy play.

Seems like that is explicitly a coaches job...

A bit of both the players and the coaching staff. I have to assume some of the odd hero ball stuff down the stretch was not the gameplan.

Right?

[Iwasawitness]

Or, Garland and Mitchell need to stop calling their own number every play. We were looking great early. Then the hero ball, isos, passes chucked into the third row of seats.

This is our first loss to a bad team this year and probably won't be the last, but we'd better use this loss as a lesson to clean up some selfish, sloppy play.

Yeah, blaming JB for only playing 8 guys is laughable. That isn’t even close to the problem here. It’s actually something far worse.

This is, in my opinion, our worst loss of the season. We’re mostly healthy and we allowed the worst team in the west to come back and beat us by double digits. No way this should have happened, completely unacceptable loss.

At the very least, JBs job should be on the hot seat, and Cavs should be paying very close attention to how bad Garland and Mitchell were together in this one.

[JujitsuFlip]

Or, Garland and Mitchell need to stop calling their own number every play. We were looking great early. Then the hero ball, isos, passes chucked into the third row of seats.

This is our first loss to a bad team this year and probably won't be the last, but we'd better use this loss as a lesson to clean up some selfish, sloppy play.

Seems like that is explicitly a coaches job...

A bit of both the players and the coaching staff. I have to assume some of the odd hero ball stuff down the stretch was not the gameplan.

Right?

I mean, i wouldn't know.

No one ever gets benched for it, so JB at minimum must be content with it.

The guy has never been known for his offensive Xs and Os, which vastly has been the issue come the post season.

At best JB is incompetent bc he has no idea how to rein guys in. At worst he's a bum and iso is his gameplan. Regardless which one it is, neither shine a good light on him.

[jasonxxx102]

For those who can’t see JBs total incompetence id love to hear an explanation for this.

Cavs come out with an obvious game plan of getting into the paint. Mobley and Allen are both being intentional and the guards are getting them the ball.

Same thing to start the 2nd half. Mobley scores the 1st 6 points and for the next few minutes Cavs build a lead.

Once they get a lead they totally abandon the game plan and start over dribbling, throwing the ball away, taking bad shots…

And when they’re behind guess what, JB has no clue what to do so he just let Mitchell dribble the air out of the ball.

How many shots did Mobley take in the 4th? ONE SINGLE SHOT. How could that not be JBs fault? Call a timeout and tell Donovan to pass the damn ball. He has no control over the team or the players.

As soon as there’s any adversity he throws the gameplan right out the window and stands on the sideline with a dumb look on his face. Pure and total incompetence

[JujitsuFlip]

For those who can’t see JBs total incompetence id love to hear an explanation for this.

Cavs come out with an obvious game plan of getting into the paint. Mobley and Allen are both being intentional and the guards are getting them the ball.

Same thing to start the 2nd half. Mobley scores the 1st 6 points and for the next few minutes Cavs build a lead.

Once they get a lead they totally abandon the game plan and start over dribbling, throwing the ball away, taking bad shots…

And when they’re behind guess what, JB has no clue what to do so he just let Mitchell dribble the air out of the ball.

How many shots did Mobley take in the 4th? ONE SINGLE SHOT. How could that not be JBs fault? Call a timeout and tell Donovan to pass the damn ball. He has no control over the team or the players.

As soon as there’s any adversity he throws the gameplan right out the window and stands on the sideline with a dumb look on his face. Pure and total incompetence

Great point, not sure if the link will post but JB kills me.

Read on Twitter

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The last question the reporter asks something along the lines of the Cavs had 20 points in the paint in the 1st quarter then couldn't get inside the arc in the 2nd half, what adjustments did the Blazers make?

JB says they started switching more and we turned more into isolation basketball.

Like hey buddy, you're not just a spectator... Do something about it. And honestly if you don't know how to beat it without praying Mitchell can go hero (which we know doesn't work in the playoffs)... Ask one of your 7 assistant coaches to help you with an in-game adjustment.

In today's NBA that is why you need a guy who understands how to put together a functional NBA offense, JB ain't it.

[Iwasawitness]

For those who can’t see JBs total incompetence id love to hear an explanation for this.

Cavs come out with an obvious game plan of getting into the paint. Mobley and Allen are both being intentional and the guards are getting them the ball.

Same thing to start the 2nd half. Mobley scores the 1st 6 points and for the next few minutes Cavs build a lead.

Once they get a lead they totally abandon the game plan and start over dribbling, throwing the ball away, taking bad shots…

And when they’re behind guess what, JB has no clue what to do so he just let Mitchell dribble the air out of the ball.

How many shots did Mobley take in the 4th? ONE SINGLE SHOT. How could that not be JBs fault? Call a timeout and tell Donovan to pass the damn ball. He has no control over the team or the players.

As soon as there’s any adversity he throws the gameplan right out the window and stands on the sideline with a dumb look on his face. Pure and total incompetence

You seem to be under the impression that some of us here don’t think JB deserves blame. In reality this is like the third or fourth loss that can be attributed to him not adjusting when needed, or, if we want to be meaner, utter incompetence on his part.

The thing is that it’s not just on him. You could tell by how the cavaliers were playing that they just stopped taking the blazers seriously, which is the worst thing you can do to a team that is building momentum. This falls on everyone, not just Bickerstaff.

Everyone needs to learn a very real and very serious lesson from this loss. There is no reason we shouldn’t have been able to ride the momentum we had and get an easy victory. And yet we only manage to score 95 points for the game against a team with little to no rim protection.

[JonFromVA]

Seemed like a team that thought they were going to sleepwalk to a win and when Portland started to bring it, they didn't get serious and amp up their effort until there wasn't enough time on the clock. Also Darius Garland needs to somehow learn to stop burning clock he doesn't have.

This sort of thing happens to good teams all the time, but given the Cavs haven't won anything yet, it's a red flag to happen to a team who's coach's primary attribute is getting effort from his team. CPJ losing all his minutes was another red flag that JBB feels he has no room to take any risk even if that player would have brought energy.

I'm ok with Garland and Mitchell playing hero ball, but they've got to deliver and they cannot turn the ball over. They need the BBIQ to understand when they're hot and/or have an advantage they can exploit, otherwise we shouldn't be living or dying based on whether tough shots feel like going down.

In summary, on one hand JBB is coaching like his job is on the line, but his players aren't giving effort like they care. So, either they don't feel the pressure he's under, or it's perhaps our first clear sign they do not care.