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Re: 2024 Brewers Minors/Prospects thread 

Post#801 » by MVP2110 » Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:03 pm

Thunder Muscle wrote:Any of the pitchers in the top 10 options to crack the rotation this year? Kind of feel that 4th and 5th starter spot is pretty fluid. I hope Ashby grabs 1 of the spots and does not let go.


Robert Gasser likely spends a good chunk, if not most of the season, in the rotation.
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Re: 2024 Brewers Minors/Prospects thread 

Post#802 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:29 pm

BA's odds on who the top prospects in MKE will be in 2025.

Current No. 1: Jackson Chourio, OF

2025 Odds

35% The Field 35%
25% Jacob Misiorowski, RHP
25% Jeferson Quero, C
5% Luis Lara, OF
5% Brock Wilken, 3B
5% Yophery Rodriguez, OF

Chourio, Tyler Black and Robert Gasser should all graduate in 2024. That leaves Misiorowski and Quero as the favorites to be the top prospect in the system entering next year. Misiorowski is in the conversation for the most electric stuff in the minors, with his control still a red flag. Quero is one of the best catching prospects in baseball and will likely spend most, if not all, of 2024 in Triple-A as a 21-year-old. Center fielder Luis Lara took a leap forward in 2023 and could enter the Top 100 prospect conversation in 2024. Outfielder Yophery Rodriguez could take a similar jump in prospect status this year in his first season in the United States, while 2023 draft picks like third basemen Brock Wilken and Eric Bitonti, righthander Josh Knoth and shortstop Cooper Pratt could all elevate their status, with third baseman Luke Adams the wild card if he rakes at Double-A.


Obviously it'd be a stunner if it isn't Miso or Quero, but I'm looking at Yophery making a huge jump this season. I'm picking up the MiLB package for sure and looking forward to seeing him hit.
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Post#803 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:17 am

I wonder how aggressive the Brewers are with Wilkin this year. He climbed three levels post-draft last season and handled himself well at all three stops. He'll start in AA this season and it wouldn't shock me if he's in AAA by mid-season.
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Re: 2024 Brewers Minors/Prospects thread 

Post#804 » by MVP2110 » Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:47 am

ReasonablySober wrote:I wonder how aggressive the Brewers are with Wilkin this year. He climbed three levels post-draft last season and handled himself well at all three stops. He'll start in AA this season and it wouldn't shock me if he's in AAA by mid-season.


Yea that seems likely. An off chance he reaches the bigs if he has a great year and/or some serious injuries happen but that seems unlikely. He seems on track to be up early in 2025 I'd guess. What I'm curious about is how much he plays 1st vs 3rd. It seems like Wilken and Black are the futures at the corners, I'm just not sure who goes at which spot
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Re: 2024 Brewers Minors/Prospects thread 

Post#805 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:01 pm

ESPN's prospect rankings:

2. Jackson Chourio, CF, Milwaukee Brewers
32. Jefferson Quero, C, Milwaukee Brewers
46. Jacob Misiorowski, RHP, Milwaukee Brewers
51. Tyler Black, 3B, Milwaukee Brewers
97. Brock Wilken, 3B, Milwaukee Brewers

First time I've seen Wilkin on these rankings. I think there's a good chance within a year people look back on these rankings (or lack thereof) and realize he was about 80 spots too low.
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Re: 2024 Brewers Minors/Prospects thread 

Post#806 » by LUKE23 » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:06 pm

I am definitely excited about the future theoretical pairing of Black and Wilken at the corners after years and years of holes at those spots.
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Re: 2024 Brewers Minors/Prospects thread 

Post#807 » by Kerb Hohl » Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:17 pm

LUKE23 wrote:I am definitely excited about the future theoretical pairing of Black and Wilken at the corners after years and years of holes at those spots.


I expressed this concern with Turang coming up - and it's much more mild/there's time to build it up for Black...

To succeed/be a stud in the MLB, you have to either be Luis Arraez or have good power. You run out of grass to find against MLB pitchers and defenses.

He's not Turang where that, "wow, he has tremendous bat skills in the minors" translates into, "not enough power, will be a utility player in the majors."

Black has some modest power and it did really flash in AA at a relatively young age. So maybe I'm wrong, but if it's not there, his bat comp is probably...Jake Bauers with a few more steals.
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Post#808 » by LUKE23 » Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:18 pm

Black gets on base at an elite clip so even if he’s only a 15-20 HR guy I’m good with that.
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Re: 2024 Brewers Minors/Prospects thread 

Post#809 » by Kerb Hohl » Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:21 pm

LUKE23 wrote:Black gets on base at an elite clip so even if he’s only a 15-20 HR guy I’m good with that.


That's the problem. A handful of guys make this work, but you do not "get on base at an elite clip" in the major leagues without hitting it over the fence or into the gaps deep in the outfield regularly.

Turang's last OBPs in the minors were .360-.380 in his last few years there. It was roughly .300 in the majors.

There are also plenty of comps that didn't flash their power in the minors - and Black did have some in AA - but he's not slotted to be a big power guy...so there's that hurdle to get over.
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Post#810 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:39 pm

Turang and Black are not comparable, at all.
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Post#811 » by Kerb Hohl » Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:45 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Turang and Black are not comparable, at all.


I know the posts are a bit long, I am not specifically comparing the two of them. I'm talking about projecting guys to the majors that can't hit homers regularly.

The point is the, "woah, look at that batting average and OBP!" gushing we get from BA on telecasts or whatever is very hard to replicate in the majors unless you can put the ball over the fence regularly.

Turang can't hit for a lick of power, so I said he was probably a utility guy before last season.

Black has OK power. So his outcomes are probably

Jake Bauers/Luis Urias (fringe starting infielder with speed) or
Yandy Diaz (needle in a haystack hitter that hits the crap out of the ball. Great OBP but 15 HR most years).
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Re: 2024 Brewers Minors/Prospects thread 

Post#812 » by MVP2110 » Thu Feb 1, 2024 5:36 pm

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For those that have been there this shouldn't be a total shock. The stadium is one of the best around for watching a baseball game
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Re: 2024 Brewers Minors/Prospects thread 

Post#813 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Feb 2, 2024 7:15 pm

Brewers have the #2 system according to Baseball America.

2. Milwaukee Brewers
Top 100 Prospects (6): OF Jackson Chourio (2), RHP Jacob Misiorowski (32), C Jeferson Quero (33), 3B Tyler Black (70), LHP DL Hall (93), LHP Robert Gasser (98)

There was a significant gap between No. 1 and No. 2 on this list prior to the Burnes deal. The Brewers somewhat closed that gap and are now firmly entrenched in the second position. A system led by the high-impact pair of OF Jackson Chourio and RHP Jacob Misiorowski is a great start. The Brewers also have a solid second tier of prospects led by C Jeferson Quero, 2B Tyler Black, LHP Robert Gasser and the newly-acquired DL Hall. This is the Brewers’ highest position in our preseason Organization Talent Rankings since ranking No. 1 in 2004.

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Re: 2024 Brewers Minors/Prospects thread 

Post#814 » by MikeIsGood » Fri Feb 2, 2024 11:47 pm

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Read on Twitter
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For those that have been there this shouldn't be a total shock. The stadium is one of the best around for watching a baseball game


Only ever drive by it on the way to DC, but looks beautiful. Didn't know they did renovations recently on top of it.
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Post#815 » by ReasonablySober » Sat Feb 3, 2024 12:19 am

The last time I was there I was pitching in a state championship game we lost. That was great.
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Post#816 » by MVP2110 » Sat Feb 3, 2024 3:32 pm

An excellent read on our current prospects including acquired Joey Ortiz

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Post#817 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Feb 5, 2024 2:23 pm

Law's Rankings (Athletic)

#2 - Jackson Chourio
#12 - Jeferson Quero
#44 - Tyler Black
#58 - Joey Ortiz
#71 - Brock Wilkin
#90 - Jacob Misiorowski

Obviously he sees Miso as RP only.
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Post#818 » by LUKE23 » Mon Feb 5, 2024 3:52 pm

Well, worst case scenario is Miso/Hall/Uribe form the nastiest BP trio in history. Best case, one of Miso/Hall becomes a legit starter.

I expect them to go heavy starting pitching in the 2024 draft and hopefully they land another legit guy for Adames.
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Re: 2024 Brewers Minors/Prospects thread 

Post#819 » by Thunder Muscle » Mon Feb 5, 2024 4:08 pm

MikeIsGood wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
Read on Twitter
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For those that have been there this shouldn't be a total shock. The stadium is one of the best around for watching a baseball game


Only ever drive by it on the way to DC, but looks beautiful. Didn't know they did renovations recently on top of it.


I got to a game last year and it is still a really nice baseball venue. Good tailgate vibe outside, all seats have great views, etc. We tend to go to our GB Northwoods team games more, but enjoy getting down to Appleton for a game or 2 each year. Love that they’re affiliated with the Brewers.
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Re: 2024 Brewers Minors/Prospects thread 

Post#820 » by MVP2110 » Mon Feb 5, 2024 4:11 pm

Thunder Muscle wrote:
MikeIsGood wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
Read on Twitter
?t=nO5dlHn6jsUS4nNVC4eWOg&s=19

For those that have been there this shouldn't be a total shock. The stadium is one of the best around for watching a baseball game


Only ever drive by it on the way to DC, but looks beautiful. Didn't know they did renovations recently on top of it.


I got to a game last year and it is still a really nice baseball venue. Good tailgate vibe outside, all seats have great views, etc. We tend to go to our GB Northwoods team games more, but enjoy getting down to Appleton for a game or 2 each year. Love that they’re affiliated with the Brewers.


I used to go to the Northwoods league games more when they were the Bullfrogs even though the stadium was worse then. It felt more natural and once they pushed through the dumb name change to the Booyah I kind of stopped going. I started going to Trats game more often and haven't really gone back. It's roughly the same price, you get to see legitimate prospects, and the concessions are much better
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