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2024 ATL Thread - Hader to Astros - 5/$95M

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Re: 2024 ATL Thread - Hader to Astros - 5/$95M 

Post#981 » by MickeyDavis » Mon Apr 8, 2024 5:57 pm

The union is blaming the pitch clock for injuries rather than the emphasis on spin rate and velocity.
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Re: 2024 ATL Thread - Hader to Astros - 5/$95M 

Post#982 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Apr 8, 2024 6:40 pm

Jay Jaffe (Fangraphs) and Rosenthal (Athletic) had good pieces on the issue today.
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Re: 2024 ATL Thread - Hader to Astros - 5/$95M 

Post#983 » by Kerb Hohl » Mon Apr 8, 2024 7:16 pm

Here's the end of Jaffe's article:

This is all one big, thorny mess that won’t be solved overnight. The sad fact is that dozens or even hundreds more pitchers will be injured before we see if MLB can introduce meaningful steps to curb injury rates.


What can the MLB do? Other than maybe allowing more pitchers on the roster or modifying the ball...what is there? I doubt they will put a velocity or spin limit on a pitch/pitchers.
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Re: 2024 ATL Thread - Hader to Astros - 5/$95M 

Post#984 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Apr 8, 2024 7:36 pm

There doesn't seem to be an obvious fix. Maybe you offer incentives to teams who meet starter minimum thresholds. Offer starting pitchers a bonus that come from the league if a guy averages more than six innings per outing. Try to incentivize the Five and Dive guy out of the sport.

But I don't know. Doesn't seem like anyone does.
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Re: 2024 ATL Thread - Hader to Astros - 5/$95M 

Post#985 » by trwi7 » Tue Apr 9, 2024 11:38 am

The Reds came close but only one NL Central team blew an 8-0 lead last night.

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Post#986 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Apr 9, 2024 2:38 pm

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Really, really good response.
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Post#987 » by Kerb Hohl » Tue Apr 9, 2024 5:28 pm

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Really, really good response.


Pretty much perfect. And I' insinuated some of the other pitchers don't know what they're talking about, maybe they do just like Verlander - he hits it right on the head that it's "smart" to do what teams are doing so you can't just "teach guys to pitch instead of throw." Under the current system, the team that just has their pitchers throw gas and nasty sliders for shorter stints of the game will win.
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Re: 2024 ATL Thread - Hader to Astros - 5/$95M 

Post#988 » by MikeIsGood » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:09 pm

Victim A: Shohei. Agent 1: The Angels.
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Re: 2024 ATL Thread - Hader to Astros - 5/$95M 

Post#989 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:27 am

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Yup.

I posted this a few couple ago:

I was listening to an interview with Tim Kurkjian this morning. He gave some insight into the role interpreters have in MLB, and he basically said they had the power of attorney. They essentially handle everything for foreign players, including things like opening bank accounts.


It wouldn't shock me if theft is actually happening a lot more than people know about.
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Re: 2024 ATL Thread - Hader to Astros - 5/$95M 

Post#990 » by humanrefutation » Fri Apr 12, 2024 5:01 am

It's not totally surprising. But this is why folks in professional settings are ethically bound to hire professional interpreters which work for them, rather than rely on family members/friends of the person who they're interpreting for. Even in the best circumstances, you can't be certain that the person translating is actually doing it correctly unless it's someone who is professionally trained and unrelated to the person they're interpreting for. In the worst case scenarios, you could have family/friends abusing their power over the folks they're interpreting for.

It's a very delicate situation, of course, because most people WANT someone they trust interpreting for them, rather than a perfect stranger.
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Re: 2024 ATL Thread - Hader to Astros - 5/$95M 

Post#992 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:24 am

Hader got rocked again. 4 ER in 1/3 inning
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Re: 2024 ATL Thread - Hader to Astros - 5/$95M 

Post#993 » by Matches Malone » Tue Apr 16, 2024 3:07 pm

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Re: 2024 ATL Thread - Hader to Astros - 5/$95M 

Post#994 » by coolhandluke121 » Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:50 pm

Jesse Winker has a higher OPS than Contreras and more WAR than Yelich. :o
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Re: 2024 ATL Thread - Hader to Astros - 5/$95M 

Post#995 » by Kerb Hohl » Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:30 pm

coolhandluke121 wrote:Jesse Winker has a higher OPS than Contreras and more WAR than Yelich. :o


I totally understand people that don't follow baseball at large or whatever getting pissed off how much they trotted out a guy that was trash all year, but it looks like the Brewers gambled on the injury rebound one year too early. He's a really good hitter and it appears 2 years was the timeframe for him to recover from his neck surgery.
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Re: 2024 ATL Thread - Hader to Astros - 5/$95M 

Post#996 » by dbrodz7 » Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:12 pm

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coolhandluke121 wrote:Jesse Winker has a higher OPS than Contreras and more WAR than Yelich. :o


I totally understand people that don't follow baseball at large or whatever getting pissed off how much they trotted out a guy that was trash all year, but it looks like the Brewers gambled on the injury rebound one year too early. He's a really good hitter and it appears 2 years was the timeframe for him to recover from his neck surgery.


I follow baseball and it still pisses me off :lol:
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Re: 2024 ATL Thread - Hader to Astros - 5/$95M 

Post#997 » by MikeIsGood » Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:57 am

I mean he's on pace to have 12 WAR so let's settle down.
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Re: 2024 ATL Thread - Hader to Astros - 5/$95M 

Post#998 » by Kerb Hohl » Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:56 pm

dbrodz7 wrote:
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coolhandluke121 wrote:Jesse Winker has a higher OPS than Contreras and more WAR than Yelich. :o


I totally understand people that don't follow baseball at large or whatever getting pissed off how much they trotted out a guy that was trash all year, but it looks like the Brewers gambled on the injury rebound one year too early. He's a really good hitter and it appears 2 years was the timeframe for him to recover from his neck surgery.


I follow baseball and it still pisses me off :lol:


Yeah, I didn't want to make it a nerdy "you just don't get it" but there are a lot of people that saw a guy have that bad of a season going, "why the hell is this guy I've never heard of still out there" - and that's fine, you're better off not following as much as some of us do...but just saying that if one knew what Winker was/could get back to, it is a bit more palatable.
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Re: 2024 ATL Thread - Hader to Astros - 5/$95M 

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Re: 2024 ATL Thread - Hader to Astros - 5/$95M 

Post#1000 » by Thunder Muscle » Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:37 pm

Cueto signs with the Rangers on a minor league deal. So that is one arm off the possible free agent list.

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