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When is the last Yankee rookie No Hitter?

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Post#1 » by earthmansurfer » Wed May 2, 2007 7:10 am

Just to put what almost happened in perspective.

Does anything compare to what Phil Hughes almost did yesterday?

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Post#2 » by NYKnSTILL! » Wed May 2, 2007 8:14 am

ALL TIME

Rookie No-hitters
American League


Wilson Alvarez 08-11-1991 Chicago at Baltimore, 7-0

Mike Warren 09-29-1983 Oakland vs Chicago, 3-0

Jim Bibby 07-30-1973 Texas at Oakland, 6-0

Steve Busby 04-27-1973 Kansas City at Detroit, 3-0

Vida Blue 09-21-1970 Oakland vs Minnesota, 6-0

Bo Belinsky 05-05-1962 Los Angeles vs Baltimore, 2-0

Bobo Holloman 05-06-1953 St. Louis vs Philadelphia, 6-0

Bill McCahan 09-03-1947 Philadelphia vs Washington, 3-0

Vern Kennedy 08-31-1935 Chicago vs Cleveland, 5-0

Charlie Robertson 04-30-1922 Chicago at Detroit, 2-0 (PG)


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Anibal Sanchez 09-06-2006 Florida vs Arizona, 2-0 MLB.com coverage>

Bud Smith 09-03-2001 St. Louis at San Diego, 4-0

Jose Jimenez 06-25-1999 St. Louis vs Arizona, 1-0

Burt Hooton 04-16-1972 Chicago vs Philadelphia, 4-0

Don Wilson 06-18-1967 Houston vs Atlanta, 2-0

Paul Dean 09-21-1934 St. Louis vs Brooklyn, 3-0

Jeff Tesreau 09-06-1912 New York at Philadelphia, 3-0

Nick Maddox 09-20-1907 Pittsburgh vs Brooklyn, 2-1

Christy Mathewson 07-15-1901 New York vs St. Louis, 5-0


HE WOULD HAVE MADE HISTORY :cry: :cry:
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Post#3 » by 34Celtic » Wed May 2, 2007 12:19 pm

NYKnSTILL! wrote:
ALL TIME

Rookie No-hitters
American League


Wilson Alvarez 08-11-1991 Chicago at Baltimore, 7-0

Mike Warren 09-29-1983 Oakland vs Chicago, 3-0

Jim Bibby 07-30-1973 Texas at Oakland, 6-0

Steve Busby 04-27-1973 Kansas City at Detroit, 3-0

Vida Blue 09-21-1970 Oakland vs Minnesota, 6-0

Bo Belinsky 05-05-1962 Los Angeles vs Baltimore, 2-0

Bobo Holloman 05-06-1953 St. Louis vs Philadelphia, 6-0

Bill McCahan 09-03-1947 Philadelphia vs Washington, 3-0

Vern Kennedy 08-31-1935 Chicago vs Cleveland, 5-0

Charlie Robertson 04-30-1922 Chicago at Detroit, 2-0 (PG)


National League
Pitcher Date Result


Anibal Sanchez 09-06-2006 Florida vs Arizona, 2-0 MLB.com coverage>

Bud Smith 09-03-2001 St. Louis at San Diego, 4-0

Jose Jimenez 06-25-1999 St. Louis vs Arizona, 1-0

Burt Hooton 04-16-1972 Chicago vs Philadelphia, 4-0

Don Wilson 06-18-1967 Houston vs Atlanta, 2-0

Paul Dean 09-21-1934 St. Louis vs Brooklyn, 3-0

Jeff Tesreau 09-06-1912 New York at Philadelphia, 3-0

Nick Maddox 09-20-1907 Pittsburgh vs Brooklyn, 2-1

Christy Mathewson 07-15-1901 New York vs St. Louis, 5-0


HE WOULD HAVE MADE HISTORY :cry: :cry:


Not really concerned about history, the kid showed why hes the top prospect in baseball. I would have rather had him let up 3 runs in 6 IP and be able to start Sunday against Seattle
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Post#4 » by yankees747 » Wed May 2, 2007 2:20 pm

i remember jorge de la rosa, who i loveddddddd, had a no hitter through like 6 2/3 like 3 or 4 years
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Post#5 » by throwbackewing33 » Wed May 2, 2007 3:01 pm

Yea i dont cre about the no hitter, its the fact that he comes out and proves why hes the best pitching prospect in baseball. That was a very strong message because all that hype is real and probably not real enough. Man can you imagine what the month of may would be like with a healthy phil? Now its going to be hard as ever to catch the red sox. :banghead:
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Post#6 » by 34Celtic » Wed May 2, 2007 3:11 pm

throwbackewing33 wrote:Yea i dont cre about the no hitter, its the fact that he comes out and proves why hes the best pitching prospect in baseball. That was a very strong message because all that hype is real and probably not real enough. Man can you imagine what the month of may would be like with a healthy phil? Now its going to be hard as ever to catch the red sox. :banghead:


Kid was dominant. But lets not get carried away, it was only one start. I agree I think he could do it over and over again, but don't wanna jinx it or let myself down
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Post#7 » by earthmansurfer » Wed May 2, 2007 3:20 pm

Nice to hear those comments. Cause him getting hurt, just cuts deep. But, he only has a pulled hamstring, not too bad, just will take some time.

Funny, I really had in my mind the kid would throw a no hitter and when I checked the headlines today I was like "WOW".

The main point is he will be back and we are all looking forward to it.
How is that other prospect doing, the one that was from the Bronx I think and went later in the draft due to his agent or something like that. I think he's Latino and throws HARD with good stuff.
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Post#8 » by cmaff051 » Wed May 2, 2007 3:27 pm

Dellin Betances.

He is in Extended Spring Training now I believe and I expect him to be in either Staten Island or Charleston soon... probably Staten Island.
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Post#9 » by 34Celtic » Wed May 2, 2007 4:00 pm

earthmansurfer wrote:The main point is he will be back and we are all looking forward to it.
How is that other prospect doing, the one that was from the Bronx I think and went later in the draft due to his agent or something like that. I think he's Latino and throws HARD with good stuff.


Danny Almonte? :rofl:
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Post#10 » by NYKnSTILL! » Wed May 2, 2007 5:16 pm

cmaff051 wrote:Dellin Betances.

He is in Extended Spring Training now I believe and I expect him to be in either Staten Island or Charleston soon... probably Staten Island.

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Age: 18
Height: 6'7"-6'9" (Depending on who you ask)
Weight: 185-215 (Again, depending on who you ask)
Drafted: 8th Round in 2006 out of High School
Position: Starting Pitcher
Throws: Right

Fastball: Betances is 18 years old. He is a big guy. He has yet to put a lot of muscle on his frame. He throws a 93-97 mph fastball, hitting 98, with nasty movement on it. He throws it with command and consistent mechanics. His fastball can do nothing but improve. Betances entered camp a raw talent, throwing 3-4 mph slower and with a mechanical delivery all over the place. The Yankees took him in and almost immediately corrected his flaws, resulting in a beautiful product.

Curveball: Betances throws a knuckle curve. He entered camp with a slight feel for it, but it was not much of a weapon. As would be a theme for Betances, this would change almost immediately. In less than two months, Betances transformed a pitch which he had little feel for in to a true plus pitch. His curveball is a strikeout weapon that sits in the low 80s.

Changeup: Yet again, Betances entered camp without much of a changeup. In fact, he entered camp barely knowing how to throw one. At least he had some experience with a curveball. With a little instruction, Betances was almost instantly able to throw a plus changeup, which compliments his fastball perfectly. He does not yet use it as a strikeout pitch, but that could change in the future.

Command: Betances entered camp with the typical "tall man syndrom", meaning that he had difficult repeating his delivery. That lasted about a week. To compare, it took Randy Johnson the better part of a half decade to do the same. That said, Betances is not 6'10". People tend to overestimate height, and I would say that Betances is more likely closer to 6'7" than 6'9". After that week of adjustment, Betances never let up. He was dominant.

Performance: Betances has a short pedigree in professional baseball. After signing, he tossed 23.1 innings (the Yankees limited his workload, as they do with a lot of 18 year olds), striking out 27, walking 7, and allowing just 3 earned runs (1.16 ERA). Betances did this following a 40+ inning high school performance where he struck out over 100. Why did he fall to us in the 8th round? Well, there are a few reasons. First off, no one thought that he would sign. Second, he pretty much said "If I am going to sign, it is only going to be with the Yankees". Third, he was not a three pitch pitcher prior to attending the Yankee camp. He tossed a live fastball and had little in terms of secondary pitches. This is a steal.

2007 Outlook: Dellin will certainly head to Charleston, where he will join a very talented rotation. The Yankee goal in 2007 will likely to simply keep Betances healthy, marginally effective, and adjusted to everyday baseball. He has no lingering issues with injury to worry about, but at such a young age who knows what health problems he may encounter in the future. He could very well take the Phil Hughes path, moving up to Tampa after some limited time in Charleston. If he manages to pitch 120+ innings, we Yankee fans should be very optimistic about his future. If he dominates Charleston, we may have another top-flight prospect on our hands.

Health: Incomplete. He is too young to determine anything about his health, although he has no immediately apparent health issues.

Ceiling: Betances has no ceiling. He is that good. If he can continue to stay mechanically clean and throw three plus pitches, he will be a success in this league. He is so young that he should be considered years ahead of schedule. I have not seen Betances pitch, but after reading a lot about him something struck me. He knows how to adjust. He quickly learned pitches, he quickly learned how to fix his mechanics, and he quickly learned how to attack hitters in professional baseball. Who does this remind me of? Phil Hughes.

Reaching Ceiling: He is so young that he will have dozens of opportunities to fail. Nothing can really be said about this right now.

Comparison: Can I say Phil Hughes? I guess I cannot. Besides a few inches and a few ticks of velocity, the two prospects seem to be mirror images of each other. Since I cannot say Phil Hughes, I am going to compare Betances to a healthy Mark Prior.
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Post#11 » by 34Celtic » Wed May 2, 2007 5:53 pm

Where is the emoticon for 'BONER?'
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