Nico Harrison: "There's no regrets on the Luka Doncic trade. Part of it is doing the best thing for Mavs"

[Bob8]

Argument is not about the team and neither it is about Luka. It's about the fact that Nico is an egomaniac who can't take no for an answer and doesn't let anyone else have any kind of influence.
He even tricked Dumont and launched made up stories about the star player he just traded. He kicked out Casey in the worst possible way to the point that even Dirk distanced himself from the team.

The team that he has now.. well, like i said, call it a luck or whatever. Majority of Mavs fanbase won't be happy until he's gone, even if this team wins a ring. They'll cheer for the players and specially Flagg (which is the right thing to do) but Nico absolutely needs to go.

Speak for yourself......around the league and different cities its starting to really weird people out the obsession certain people in Dallas have with Luka.
The Mavs are not the first franchise to move away from a superstar player. The Mavs moved off Mark Agguire in 1989, Jason Kidd in 96 and Steve Nash in 2004...so this isnt the first time this has happened.

If Luka means that much to you....go be a fan of the Lakers and leave the Mavericks to us real fans.

Luka wasn’t even the first superstar PG they have let go.

Hey maybe they will have to let go Flagg too, for some totally different reasons.

[Mr B]

How many times was Mavs in the Finals or WCF? If Lukas 6 and half years were disappointment then my guess is around 20x.

Luka played 1 season with rookie Lively and few months with PJ and Gafford, that's this great supporting cast. He was out for month and half before he was traded. Mavs were 2nd or 3rd before he got injured.

Similar as first paragraph, to be better, they will need to be every second year in WCF and Finals. At the moment they're 0/1 for playoffs without Luka.

The Mavericks are going to better in the regular season moving forward than they ever were under Luka.
I don't really give a chit about just "getting" to the WCF or Finals if the team isn't competitive.

Luka fans don't seem to realize that we didn't win all that much while he was here.

What success had Dirk in first 6 years and how many titles did he win?

Mavs didn't win all that much as franchise either.

The Mavs didn’t win with Dirk until they started to focus on defense. Even Dirk will tell you that they HAD to move on from Nellie and get a defensive minded HC. It didn’t work with Avery but once they brought in Carlisle and his defensive scheme they started to really win.

[Mr B]

I have to say, good job Nico, PR was extremely successful. Fat, lazy Luka is out and "true" Mavs fans hate him. And they hate Luka's fans too. Really Good job.

Btw, what was your contribution in this board till today. ;)

I actually joined this board right after the Mavericks won the 2011 Title.
The Mavs didn't win in the Luka era.

Mediocre regular seasons and two nice playoff runs.

What have you written about in last 7 years, I honestly don't remember you?

What does that matter? He’s making excellent points.

[Bob8]

The Mavericks are going to better in the regular season moving forward than they ever were under Luka.
I don't really give a chit about just "getting" to the WCF or Finals if the team isn't competitive.

Luka fans don't seem to realize that we didn't win all that much while he was here.

What success had Dirk in first 6 years and how many titles did he win?

Mavs didn't win all that much as franchise either.

The Mavs didn’t win with Dirk until they started to focus on defense. Even Dirk will tell you that they HAD to move on from Nellie and get a defensive minded HC. It didn’t work with Avery but once they brought in Carlisle and his defensive scheme they started to really win.

And you believe 6'7 Pg, who is averaging 10 rebounds and is top 5 in steals, can't be good enough in D, if you surround him with 4 good defensive players? If Luka and Kyrie were almost good enough, Celtics series was lost in offensive side, then I'm sure it shouldn't be that difficult to build a little better lineup. I'm sure a lot easier than with 33 years old AD.

[Bob8]

I actually joined this board right after the Mavericks won the 2011 Title.
The Mavs didn't win in the Luka era.

Mediocre regular seasons and two nice playoff runs.

What have you written about in last 7 years, I honestly don't remember you?

What does that matter? He’s making excellent points.

Which are? Luka's fans shouldn't posted here? Or Luka didn't do much in Dallas? Mavs will be better without him?

It matters, if someone, who hasn't posted almost anything here is forcing out posters, who are writing here for a long time.

[Mr B]

Dirk just recently said in an interview he started taking care of his body seriously only after he was 27yo.



I beg you, please show me EXACT words where you were insulted.


How do you know that? They were on a great path until Nico blew it up.


Mavs since 1980 until 2018.

-3 WCF
-2 Finals
-1 Title

Mavs since 2018 until 2025

-2 WCF
-1 Finals

You could say "the new era" was on a very good track to beat all those team records.


Obviously they have a CHANCE to be better. But that is not even a hot take. In the last 2 seasons Mavs finally became a deeper team with a bench that could be a starting lineup for a lot of NBA teams. If they're healthy they absolutely have a great chance to be better. That is very much self explanatory.


I think the so called "Luka fans" are not even as much of a problem as you are right now. You're complaining way more. And why does a regular season record need to be the most important factor to show someone's dominance?

02/03... 60 wins = WCF loss
03/04... 52 wins = 1st round loss
04/05... 58 wins = 2nd round loss

06/07... 67 wins = 1st round loss

etc...

So, again, without any context (injuries, mid season trades).. How does regular season record hold any real value when playoffs is ultimately what matters?

This is a classic Luka stan argument...and again... its the reason I'm glad his fanbase will soon be exiting Dallas.

Winning is what matters. Not your favorite player maxing out his stats.
The Mavs wern't competitive at all in the 22 Western Conference Finals or the 24 Finals.

its all good Bro. I don't care if our best player is overweight and doesn't play a lick of defense...I don't even care that a 4 seed is the best seed he ever led the Mavs to....what I care about is that he put up 33, 11 and 14.

Tim Duncan led the Spurs to their first two NBA Championships in his first 7 years in San Antonio. The Spurs won over 50 games in every season Duncan was on the team. The 1999 and 2003 teams were completely different from each other
Tim Duncan is also an elite defensive player in addition to being unstoppable on the low block.

If Luka was leading the Mavs to 53-58 wins a year then he would still be here....but the mavs were headed down this road of being nothing more than a 47-52 win franchise that occasionally could get hot in the playoffs.

The Mavericks have never been an elite defensive team. The teams that win multiple championships are typically the best defensive teams in the league.
The new Mavs ownership vision is to pivot away from being a great offensive ball club that doesn't win a lot in the regular season to being oriented around elite defense.
The Mavs have always been able to score...but stopping people on defense has always been an issue.

Your only counter arguments are "Luka stan" and then you proceed to make claims that are not even remotely true. Mavs played insanely good defense through the playoffs, they won more games with defense than offense, even vs Celtics they played the best defense out of any team, that is a statistical fact. I won't go into details anymore because with previous post you have proven you don't care about statistics. It's basically whatever you say must be true.

But whatever, i don't even have a clue what are you even arguing here anymore. You quoted a lot of people and made a lot of false claims in the process, and on top you're also calling us Luka stans, even though my post you quoted had nothing to do with him. Not sure if Mavrelous will have to sort this mess out at the end but whatever you're trying to do here is very counter productive.

In all fairness whenever someone criticizes Luka it’s always, “just admit you hate Luka”. No one hates Luka. Some of us just hate all the bitching and moaning.

[Mr B]

Speak for yourself......around the league and different cities its starting to really weird people out the obsession certain people in Dallas have with Luka.
The Mavs are not the first franchise to move away from a superstar player. The Mavs moved off Mark Agguire in 1989, Jason Kidd in 96 and Steve Nash in 2004...so this isnt the first time this has happened.

If Luka means that much to you....go be a fan of the Lakers and leave the Mavericks to us real fans.

Luka wasn’t even the first superstar PG they have let go.

Hey maybe they will have to let go Flagg too, for some totally different reasons.

It wouldn’t be the first time.

[Mr B]

What success had Dirk in first 6 years and how many titles did he win?

Mavs didn't win all that much as franchise either.

The Mavs didn’t win with Dirk until they started to focus on defense. Even Dirk will tell you that they HAD to move on from Nellie and get a defensive minded HC. It didn’t work with Avery but once they brought in Carlisle and his defensive scheme they started to really win.

And you believe 6'7 Pg, who is averaging 10 rebounds and is top 5 in steals, can't be good enough in D, if you surround him with 4 good defensive players? If Luka and Kyrie were almost good enough, Celtics series was lost in offensive side, then I'm sure it shouldn't be that difficult to build a little better lineup. I'm sure a lot easier than with 33 years old AD.

They did surround him with defenders and the Mavs got smoked by the Celtics.

[Mr B]

What have you written about in last 7 years, I honestly don't remember you?

What does that matter? He’s making excellent points.

Which are? Luka's fans shouldn't posted here? Or Luka didn't do much in Dallas? Mavs will be better without him?

It matters, if someone, who hasn't posted almost anything here is forcing out posters, who are writing here for a long time.

I don’t recall him ever saying you shouldn’t post here. Sounds to me that he’s just saying Luka is gone, time to move on. The team is actually better for the long haul than they were with Luka.

[Archx]

This is a classic Luka stan argument...and again... its the reason I'm glad his fanbase will soon be exiting Dallas.

Winning is what matters. Not your favorite player maxing out his stats.
The Mavs wern't competitive at all in the 22 Western Conference Finals or the 24 Finals.

its all good Bro. I don't care if our best player is overweight and doesn't play a lick of defense...I don't even care that a 4 seed is the best seed he ever led the Mavs to....what I care about is that he put up 33, 11 and 14.

Tim Duncan led the Spurs to their first two NBA Championships in his first 7 years in San Antonio. The Spurs won over 50 games in every season Duncan was on the team. The 1999 and 2003 teams were completely different from each other
Tim Duncan is also an elite defensive player in addition to being unstoppable on the low block.

If Luka was leading the Mavs to 53-58 wins a year then he would still be here....but the mavs were headed down this road of being nothing more than a 47-52 win franchise that occasionally could get hot in the playoffs.

The Mavericks have never been an elite defensive team. The teams that win multiple championships are typically the best defensive teams in the league.
The new Mavs ownership vision is to pivot away from being a great offensive ball club that doesn't win a lot in the regular season to being oriented around elite defense.
The Mavs have always been able to score...but stopping people on defense has always been an issue.

Your only counter arguments are "Luka stan" and then you proceed to make claims that are not even remotely true. Mavs played insanely good defense through the playoffs, they won more games with defense than offense, even vs Celtics they played the best defense out of any team, that is a statistical fact. I won't go into details anymore because with previous post you have proven you don't care about statistics. It's basically whatever you say must be true.

But whatever, i don't even have a clue what are you even arguing here anymore. You quoted a lot of people and made a lot of false claims in the process, and on top you're also calling us Luka stans, even though my post you quoted had nothing to do with him. Not sure if Mavrelous will have to sort this mess out at the end but whatever you're trying to do here is very counter productive.

In all fairness whenever someone criticizes Luka it’s always, “just admit you hate Luka”. No one hates Luka. Some of us just hate all the bitching and moaning.

Well i never said that and even the post he quoted i didn't even talk about Luka because i'm done with that chapter. I was talking about Nico because this is still the thread where we can talk about Nico and the trade. If Mavrelous feels like this is a done process he'll close it i guess.

But it's kinda weird he's attacking people here by stating a lot of wrong things about the Mavs. I have no clue what his agenda is but it's a bizzare behavior to me that his only argument is you must be a "Luka stan" when you correct him on things

[Bob8]

The Mavs didn’t win with Dirk until they started to focus on defense. Even Dirk will tell you that they HAD to move on from Nellie and get a defensive minded HC. It didn’t work with Avery but once they brought in Carlisle and his defensive scheme they started to really win.

And you believe 6'7 Pg, who is averaging 10 rebounds and is top 5 in steals, can't be good enough in D, if you surround him with 4 good defensive players? If Luka and Kyrie were almost good enough, Celtics series was lost in offensive side, then I'm sure it shouldn't be that difficult to build a little better lineup. I'm sure a lot easier than with 33 years old AD.

They did surround him with defenders and the Mavs got smoked by the Celtics.

Smoked by? With 107.5 offensive rtg? Pretty bad if you ask me, the worst rtg Celtics have in playoffs.

[Mr B]

Your only counter arguments are "Luka stan" and then you proceed to make claims that are not even remotely true. Mavs played insanely good defense through the playoffs, they won more games with defense than offense, even vs Celtics they played the best defense out of any team, that is a statistical fact. I won't go into details anymore because with previous post you have proven you don't care about statistics. It's basically whatever you say must be true.

But whatever, i don't even have a clue what are you even arguing here anymore. You quoted a lot of people and made a lot of false claims in the process, and on top you're also calling us Luka stans, even though my post you quoted had nothing to do with him. Not sure if Mavrelous will have to sort this mess out at the end but whatever you're trying to do here is very counter productive.

In all fairness whenever someone criticizes Luka it’s always, “just admit you hate Luka”. No one hates Luka. Some of us just hate all the bitching and moaning.

Well i never said that and even the post he quoted i didn't even talk about Luka because i'm done with that chapter. I was talking about Nico because this is still the thread where we can talk about Nico and the trade. If Mavrelous feels like this is a done process he'll close it i guess.

But it's kinda weird he's attacking people here by stating a lot of wrong things about the Mavs. I have no clue what his agenda is but it's a bizzare behavior to me that his only argument is you must be a "Luka stan" when you correct him on things

Where was he wrong?

[Archx]

In all fairness whenever someone criticizes Luka it’s always, “just admit you hate Luka”. No one hates Luka. Some of us just hate all the bitching and moaning.

Well i never said that and even the post he quoted i didn't even talk about Luka because i'm done with that chapter. I was talking about Nico because this is still the thread where we can talk about Nico and the trade. If Mavrelous feels like this is a done process he'll close it i guess.

But it's kinda weird he's attacking people here by stating a lot of wrong things about the Mavs. I have no clue what his agenda is but it's a bizzare behavior to me that his only argument is you must be a "Luka stan" when you correct him on things

Where was he wrong?

I already made a long post from his direct arguments, go back and read it.

[Mr B]

And you believe 6'7 Pg, who is averaging 10 rebounds and is top 5 in steals, can't be good enough in D, if you surround him with 4 good defensive players? If Luka and Kyrie were almost good enough, Celtics series was lost in offensive side, then I'm sure it shouldn't be that difficult to build a little better lineup. I'm sure a lot easier than with 33 years old AD.

They did surround him with defenders and the Mavs got smoked by the Celtics.

Smoked by? With 107.5 offensive rtg? Pretty bad if you ask me, the worst rtg Celtics have in playoffs.

Who cares what their offensive rating was, they lost the series 4-1. That’s getting smoked.

[Bob8]

What does that matter? He’s making excellent points.

Which are? Luka's fans shouldn't posted here? Or Luka didn't do much in Dallas? Mavs will be better without him?

It matters, if someone, who hasn't posted almost anything here is forcing out posters, who are writing here for a long time.

I don’t recall him ever saying you shouldn’t post here. Sounds to me that he’s just saying Luka is gone, time to move on. The team is actually better for the long haul than they were with Luka.

"This is a classic Luka stan argument...and again... its the reason I'm glad his fanbase will soon be exiting Dallas." I don't think he's talking about people actually moving from Dallas.

That is still to be seen, if that happens, the only reason will be lottery luck not the trade.

[Mr B]

Which are? Luka's fans shouldn't posted here? Or Luka didn't do much in Dallas? Mavs will be better without him?

It matters, if someone, who hasn't posted almost anything here is forcing out posters, who are writing here for a long time.

I don’t recall him ever saying you shouldn’t post here. Sounds to me that he’s just saying Luka is gone, time to move on. The team is actually better for the long haul than they were with Luka.

"This is a classic Luka stan argument...and again... its the reason I'm glad his fanbase will soon be exiting Dallas." I don't think he's talking about people actually moving from Dallas.

That is still to be seen, if that happens, the only reason will be lottery luck not the trade.

Sounds like he’s referring to non-Mavs fans trolling this board because you hate that your favorite player got traded. If you’re not a fan of the Mavs it’s cool to post here but you shouldn’t be in here just trolling the Mavs just because Luka got traded.

[Bob8]

They did surround him with defenders and the Mavs got smoked by the Celtics.

Smoked by? With 107.5 offensive rtg? Pretty bad if you ask me, the worst rtg Celtics have in playoffs.

Who cares what their offensive rating was, they lost the series 4-1. That’s getting smoked.

You said they didn't play good enough D. But the main problem was their offense. All talk is about Luka, but Kyrie was actually the main culprit, not been able to score anything in Boston. I can understand role players unable to hit anything but Kyrie...

[Mr B]

Smoked by? With 107.5 offensive rtg? Pretty bad if you ask me, the worst rtg Celtics have in playoffs.

Who cares what their offensive rating was, they lost the series 4-1. That’s getting smoked.

You said they didn't play good enough D. But the main problem was their offense. All talk is about Luka, but Kyrie was actually the main culprit, not been able to score anything in Boston. I can understand role players unable to hit anything but Kyrie...

Luka getting dominated by Jaylen Brown was a huge factor.

[Bob8]

I don’t recall him ever saying you shouldn’t post here. Sounds to me that he’s just saying Luka is gone, time to move on. The team is actually better for the long haul than they were with Luka.

"This is a classic Luka stan argument...and again... its the reason I'm glad his fanbase will soon be exiting Dallas." I don't think he's talking about people actually moving from Dallas.

That is still to be seen, if that happens, the only reason will be lottery luck not the trade.

Sounds like he’s referring to non-Mavs fans trolling this board because you hate that your favorite player got traded. If you’re not a fan of the Mavs it’s cool to post here but you shouldn’t be in here just trolling the Mavs just because Luka got traded.

Mavs fans who have written 10000 posts about Mavs games are suddenly non-Mavs fans, because they're still writing about Luka in a thread dedicated for that. And the arbiter is Mavs fan, who didn't write here almost anything for years?

You "Mavs" fans look like president Trump to me, whoever doesn't agree should be expelled.

[Bob8]

Who cares what their offensive rating was, they lost the series 4-1. That’s getting smoked.

You said they didn't play good enough D. But the main problem was their offense. All talk is about Luka, but Kyrie was actually the main culprit, not been able to score anything in Boston. I can understand role players unable to hit anything but Kyrie...

Luka getting dominated by Jaylen Brown was a huge factor.

Because, it was expected that he will defended him 1 on 1? What about Luka hitting 4 3s in game 1, all others 3, Kyrie 0 and he went 0 in game 2 too. What about Kyrie averaging 14 points in first 2 games with catastrophic %, Luka 31 points? Luka was the only existent in first 2 games, it was collective collapse of all others. D was the least problem of Mavs, they have lost series in offensive side.