Thoughts on this Luka Video?

[joesha1698]

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My thoughts on the video:

The Dallas Mavericks' offense, while good with Luka Doncic's isolation plays, needs more off-ball movement for greatness or we simply have to improve with our current style to be championship level, which I do not think we are right now.

Golden State's success is attributed to Steph Curry's off-ball movement creating a dynamic offense. This style is harder to defend compared to relying on Luka's one-on-one skills. Currently, Luka runs pick-and-rolls and relies heavily on his isolation game. This becomes predictable for good teams who can then double-team Luka and force role players to hit threes. The team needs more passing, cutting, and overall movement to be less predictable. This would utilize Luka's skills more efficiently and make the offense harder to defend. Rinse repeat all the information above with Kyrie. (because their used the same way)

If we stick with the current style we need:

Consistent three-point shooting - which we dont have. (especially at the corners...we need guys hitting at a 38% or higher clip)
Strong wing defenders (which they have but could get a little better)
Rebounding and paint presence (which they have)


Note: I'm a proponent of anytime Luka or Kyrie have the ball - for one of them to become a corner shooters. So, If the defense is doubling Kyrie or Luka - they should be not setting the picks for each other. One of them should always be in one of those corners taking those 3s. Our best shooters should always be our 3 point shooters and our least effective shooters should be setting the screens and making plays in the middle of the court.

[Mavrelous]

Ben points out a key between distinction and other elite talents like Jokic, Curry and Giannis, and it's the fact his backup is usually the 2nd best player on the team, and there is no talent difference between the rest of the starters and the rest of the backups, so Luka playing against starters and backup playing against backups makes it close, for other stars, they usually lean heavy on a starting unit and have a weaker bench, Jokic is an extreme case of this.
My main criticism of Kidd is how limited he is offensively, the team didn't play this way in RS under RC, Kidd can't coach offense and it's showing, off ball movement is a key component in lowering the load on the creation by Luka, but it also opens the door for TOs, this is taking a heavy toll on Luka, this must change in the future.
In the PO, Luka heliocentric ball is a great offensive scheme, even if PJ and DJJ shoot 35% as opposed 41% by Bullock and DFS (on 15 attempts) that's less than 3 point difference in offensive production that is covered by the defense and rebounding improvement, 1 put back a game by Gafford + 1 extra defensive rebound covers for all of the lost production.

[hagredionis]

When Luka is on court the Mavs are literally winning every play-off game by a big margin and losing badly when he's off-court. What the hell is he supposed to do if the team is constantly losing when he's off court?

[ozwizard8]

Ben points out a key between distinction and other elite talents like Jokic, Curry and Giannis, and it's the fact his backup is usually the 2nd best player on the team, and there is no talent difference between the rest of the starters and the rest of the backups, so Luka playing against starters and backup playing against backups makes it close, for other stars, they usually lean heavy on a starting unit and have a weaker bench, Jokic is an extreme case of this.
My main criticism of Kidd is how limited he is offensively, the team didn't play this way in RS under RC, Kidd can't coach offense and it's showing, off ball movement is a key component in lowering the load on the creation by Luka, but it also opens the door for TOs, this is taking a heavy toll on Luka, this must change in the future.
In the PO, Luka heliocentric ball is a great offensive scheme, even if PJ and DJJ shoot 35% as opposed 41% by Bullock and DFS (on 15 attempts) that's less than 3 point difference in offensive production that is covered by the defense and rebounding improvement, 1 put back a game by Gafford + 1 extra defensive rebound covers for all of the lost production.

One thing doesnt show in the stats is also making key defensive plays.
Kleber did this especially in G2. DFS had more experience for playoffs and he might’ve cool down Harden better. PJ didnt look like he knows hat he is doing. Even a one or two stops there would be huge for momentum swift.

[ozwizard8]

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My thoughts on the video:

The Dallas Mavericks' offense, while good with Luka Doncic's isolation plays, needs more off-ball movement for greatness or we simply have to improve with our current style to be championship level, which I do not think we are right now.

Golden State's success is attributed to Steph Curry's off-ball movement creating a dynamic offense. This style is harder to defend compared to relying on Luka's one-on-one skills. Currently, Luka runs pick-and-rolls and relies heavily on his isolation game. This becomes predictable for good teams who can then double-team Luka and force role players to hit threes. The team needs more passing, cutting, and overall movement to be less predictable. This would utilize Luka's skills more efficiently and make the offense harder to defend. Rinse repeat all the information above with Kyrie. (because their used the same way)

If we stick with the current style we need:

Consistent three-point shooting - which we dont have. (especially at the corners...we need guys hitting at a 38% or higher clip)
Strong wing defenders (which they have but could get a little better)
Rebounding and paint presence (which they have)


Note: I'm a proponent of anytime Luka or Kyrie have the ball - for one of them to become a corner shooters. So, If the defense is doubling Kyrie or Luka - they should be not setting the picks for each other. One of them should always be in one of those corners taking those 3s. Our best shooters should always be our 3 point shooters and our least effective shooters should be setting the screens and making plays in the middle of the court.

Did you watch the game?

If you have f'in Luka Doncic who can penetrate, post-up, shooting from each spot of the court while dishing crazy assists, then you do not need him to running around the screens.

That thing works for Curry, Klay because they're shooters. They are also much smaller. Luka's game is supposed to look like prime Harden and Lebron. That is fine. If Luka is healthy, with good supporting cast, this system will get you rings.

Luka was more mobile today, feeling less about the knee, worrying less. He f'in killed it 35pts!
- Open 3s night for DJJ-Kleber!
- Free lobs for Gafford-Lively!
With healthy Luka, offense will work.

When Luka is off ball, he just takes his defender out of the play, so Mavs play 4v4 which gives better spacing. Thats pretty much what he can do with that physical qualities and skillset.