Playoffs 2024 - R1 - G2 - Mavs @ Clippers (Tuesd 100PM)

[Bob8]

Team's biggest hole is the scoring from the bench aka THJ's SG spot. Green was never brought in to be a scorer, they said so when he was drafted, i'll never understand why you want him to be just that. He was drafted for something completely different and he played good in that role until he got injured (again) and now is trying to get back into form at the exact wrong time.

So, your comparisons to Maxey or Bane are kinda out of place. If you want to hate on him at least compare him to McDaniels, which is basically the same role Green occupies. If Donnie wanted to go after a pure scorer i'm 100% sure he wouldn't draft Green.

But he should at least be a great defender, he's not even good. We've seen him lose his guys on screens time after time, players like Tyus Jones look like all stars when Green was guarding them. His basketball IQ is amongst the lowest in the league. I had no intention of talking about him for these playoffs, but if people are going to commend him for "great play" I'm going to chime in to speak the truth that he's more a detriment than asset.

Those are valid points of discussion but not compared to guys like Maxey or Bay. Totally different players with different roles.

When it comes to offense, DJJ is more or less a direct replacement for Green (or vice versa). And if you observe DJJ closely, you'll notice his IQ on offense isn't that good either. He'll often drive to the rim and lose the ball or simply miss a layup over 3 guys. He also doesn't take shots when he's open because he doesn't trust his shooting. So... Mavs wanted to upgrade defense and they did but now they suffer on offense against great defensive schemes. That's why this series will be a grind and Luka can't afford to have a horrible shooting night.

We don't need to compare him to anyone to conclude how big disappointment he is. The only reason he's still playable is because what Luka and Kyrie are capable of. Put him in some other team and he's out of the league very quickly.

[Mavrelous]

When Gafford proved ineffective, Mavs had Lively and small ball Kleber, when Exum was ineffective, Luka played 46 minutes and Kyrie 42, unlike Kidd, I have little hope for THJ, so Green is the only viable option as backup guard to Luka/Kyrie/DJJ a breather.
He only needs to continue to be diruptor on defense, and hit corner 3s.

[Bob8]

When Gafford proved ineffective, Mavs had Lively and small ball Kleber, when Exum was ineffective, Luka played 46 minutes and Kyrie 42, unlike Kidd, I have little hope for THJ, so Green is the only viable option as backup guard to Luka/Kyrie/DJJ a breather.
He only needs to continue to be diruptor on defense, and hit corner 3s.

Mavs will need to find points somewhere, you can't play Luka 46, expect great D for him and scoring 40+, if they want to go over 100. Disruption is nice, but someone has to score. I hope Exum plays better at home and Gafford/Lively make at least few FG each.

[Archx]

We don't need to compare him to anyone to conclude how big disappointment he is. The only reason he's still playable is because what Luka and Kyrie are capable of. Put him in some other team and he's out of the league very quickly.

That's hard to say. Lots of players have played much better with different teams. Even Grant

Green was doing good though until he got injured again, and that's his problem, he's like KP, injured and then needs time to come back in form. He was doing quite decent before that.

[41Dirk41]

When Gafford proved ineffective, Mavs had Lively and small ball Kleber, when Exum was ineffective, Luka played 46 minutes and Kyrie 42, unlike Kidd, I have little hope for THJ, so Green is the only viable option as backup guard to Luka/Kyrie/DJJ a breather.
He only needs to continue to be diruptor on defense, and hit corner 3s.

Mavs will need to find points somewhere, you can't play Luka 46, expect great D for him and scoring 40+, if they want to go over 100. Disruption is nice, but someone has to score. I hope Exum plays better at home and Gafford/Lively make at least few FG each.

At the AAC our role players will play better for sure... The crowd and the atmosphere help.

I hope

[Bob8]

We don't need to compare him to anyone to conclude how big disappointment he is. The only reason he's still playable is because what Luka and Kyrie are capable of. Put him in some other team and he's out of the league very quickly.

That's hard to say. Lots of players have played much better with different teams. Even Grant

Green was doing good though until he got injured again, and that's his problem, he's like KP, injured and then needs time to come back in form. He was doing quite decent before that.

Who needs low volume corner 3 guard, who has very suspected ball handling, and is mostly lost in D? Not many. Mavs situation, especially with higher pace and lots of wide open shots should be ideal for him. Playing good D would be enough. But guess, who is far the worst player in Mavs D? Mavs are 8.2 points better in D with him off the court. They're 2 points worse, when DJJ are of the court and 4.3, when Exum is off the court. Kinda drastic difference. Josh has far the worst on/off net rtg too.

[Archx]

We don't need to compare him to anyone to conclude how big disappointment he is. The only reason he's still playable is because what Luka and Kyrie are capable of. Put him in some other team and he's out of the league very quickly.

That's hard to say. Lots of players have played much better with different teams. Even Grant

Green was doing good though until he got injured again, and that's his problem, he's like KP, injured and then needs time to come back in form. He was doing quite decent before that.

Who needs low volume corner 3 guard, who has very suspected ball handling, and is mostly lost in D? Not many. Mavs situation, especially with higher pace and lots of wide open shots should be ideal for him. Playing good D would be enough. But guess, who is far the worst player in Mavs D? Mavs are 8.2 points better in D with him off the court. They're 2 points worse, when DJJ are of the court and 4.3, when Exum is off the court. Kinda drastic difference. Josh has far the worst on/off net rtg too.

I'm aware of that but his slow start and constant injuries completely derailed his season. He had stretches where he played really good. I still believe he can go back to that and Mavs apparently as well since they rather traded the pick instead of him.

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[41Dirk41]

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Great.


Now take your wide open 3s and don't put the ball on the floor please

[Archx]

I'll add to that.

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[Archx]

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[dirkules_41]

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daoneandonly is already screaming at his Josh Green voodoo doll. Good news for the Mavs though, THJ in this offensive shape is just absolutely unplayable.

[41Dirk41]

I think that THJ can be useful in home games with some 3s, microwave from the bench. 10/15 minutes.
No more because his defense is putrid.

The Lively defensive sequence on Harden is insane. Great foot working.

[41Dirk41]

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daoneandonly is already screaming at his Josh Green voodoo doll. Good news for the Mavs though, THJ in this offensive shape is just absolutely unplayable.

We need Exum or Green step up next couple of games.

[Archx]

I think that THJ can be useful in home games with some 3s, microwave from the bench. 10/15 minutes.
No more because his defense is putrid.

The Lively defensive sequence on Harden is insane. Great foot working.

This was a brilliant podcast from these two. Listen to Mavs-LAC series. Mavs defense is what basically is winning them games. They were the best defensive team in the league for the past 20 games. That's why most Mavs fans prefer if THJ doesn't see any time on the floor. Mavs have enough role players that can get hot with those open looks they getting and even Luka hasn't even have an efficient game yet.

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Love the heart and attitude

[41Dirk41]

Gafford questionable for game3. It's bad.

But his impact in this series is very low... Start Lively is the smartest choice anyway.

O-Max out.

[ChipotleWest]

Gafford questionable for game3. It's bad.

But his impact in this series is very low... Start Lively is the smartest choice anyway.

O-Max out.

THJ out.

[Bob8]

Gafford questionable for game3. It's bad.

But his impact in this series is very low... Start Lively is the smartest choice anyway.

O-Max out.

You can bet Lue will try through Zubac force few quick fouls on him and what if that happens? You can't play small ball for 30+ minutes. So Powell is back.

[41Dirk41]

Gafford questionable for game3. It's bad.

But his impact in this series is very low... Start Lively is the smartest choice anyway.

O-Max out.

You can bet Lue will try through Zubac force few quick fouls on him and what if that happens? You can't play small ball for 30+ minutes. So Powell is back.

I hope Lively can battle with Zubac better than Gafford.
He has size.