ImageImageImage

Playoffs 2024 - R1 - G2 - Mavs @ Clippers (Tuesd 100PM)

Moderators: Dirk, HMFFL, Mavrelous

User avatar
ozwizard8
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,898
And1: 1,121
Joined: Nov 21, 2013
 

Re: Playoffs 2024 - R1 - G2 - Mavs @ Clippers (Tuesd 100PM) 

Post#141 » by ozwizard8 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:18 am

kacey ring wrote:Smart miss by Kyrie. He knew Maxi was going to get the rebound.

lol.

Yea I particularly liked how Luka went to Kleber to congratulate as that was the offensive rebound to seal the game!
Some people blamed Luka for shouting to Maxi and said Luka is not supportive but abusive/destructive.

This is not true. Luka simply tried to wake up his teammates to remind this is playoffs now.
This is a leadership type as well. You dont always need to be ‘fake supportive’ to be a good teammate. Sometimes you need to wake up your teammates.
ChipotleWest
Veteran
Posts: 2,874
And1: 2,453
Joined: Jul 21, 2012
 

Re: Playoffs 2024 - R1 - G2 - Mavs @ Clippers (Tuesd 100PM) 

Post#142 » by ChipotleWest » Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:27 am

Mavs have outplayed the Clippers for 3 halves, just had the Game 1 first half disaster if not for that we're probably up 2-0. Oh well I'll take 1-1 all things considered. Time to move to Dallas Friday.
Maverick41
Analyst
Posts: 3,486
And1: 2,512
Joined: Dec 26, 2009
 

Re: Playoffs 2024 - R1 - G2 - Mavs @ Clippers (Tuesd 100PM) 

Post#143 » by Maverick41 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:47 am

ozwizard8 wrote:I didnt like the way refs allowing foul defense. Even WB is able to stay in the game when they do this. Also WB deserved two technical fouls in last two minutes.
Fouling Luka then hitting his hand after the whistle is a bitch move.
Then pushing PJ isnt a basketball move at all.
Refs enabling this **** is ridiculous.

Yeah WB just getting away with way too much. Dude can prolly spit on someone's face and there wouldn't be a tech at this point.
Mavrelous
Forum Mod - Mavericks
Forum Mod - Mavericks
Posts: 13,697
And1: 10,531
Joined: Aug 20, 2020

Re: Playoffs 2024 - R1 - G2 - Mavs @ Clippers (Tuesd 100PM) 

Post#144 » by Mavrelous » Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:07 am

Maverick41 wrote:
ozwizard8 wrote:I didnt like the way refs allowing foul defense. Even WB is able to stay in the game when they do this. Also WB deserved two technical fouls in last two minutes.
Fouling Luka then hitting his hand after the whistle is a bitch move.
Then pushing PJ isnt a basketball move at all.
Refs enabling this **** is ridiculous.

Yeah WB just getting away with way too much. Dude can prolly spit on someone's face and there wouldn't be a tech at this point.


They should file a silent complaint to the league office, he's really out of control, and he was like that in the 1st game too.
You can't T Luka for simple complaint and just let this guy hit players after the whistle.
blicka wrote:Can't wait to see doncic on an island vs jimmy butler,paul george or kahwi leonard and those weak ass moves that work in europe getting shut down
dygaction
Head Coach
Posts: 6,926
And1: 4,309
Joined: Sep 20, 2015
 

Re: Playoffs 2024 - R1 - G2 - Mavs @ Clippers (Tuesd 100PM) 

Post#145 » by dygaction » Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:56 am

Did Kidd get credit for the last min successful challenge? It was a great and critical call to get the ball back, not having to risk Clippers' another point or offensive rebound.

Also even though Luka was grinded to 45min, the ~10sec substitution during free throw followed by a time out was a nice move to give him a much needed rest.
Maverick41
Analyst
Posts: 3,486
And1: 2,512
Joined: Dec 26, 2009
 

Re: Playoffs 2024 - R1 - G2 - Mavs @ Clippers (Tuesd 100PM) 

Post#146 » by Maverick41 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:03 am

Mavrelous wrote:They should file a silent complaint to the league office, he's really out of control, and he was like that in the 1st game too.
You can't T Luka for simple complaint and just let this guy hit players after the whistle.

Agreed. Players have started fights on the court for faaaaar less. It reminds me of Draymond where the refs almost look scared to call a tech on them out of fear. It's ridiculous.
User avatar
41Dirk41
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,346
And1: 1,852
Joined: Mar 26, 2021
     

Re: Playoffs 2024 - R1 - G2 - Mavs @ Clippers (Tuesd 100PM) 

Post#147 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:09 am

I lied... I didn't skip the game... But guys, i can't finish the series in this way. I'm totally drained.

Kyrie setted the tone in the 4th, what a leader.
Luka too scared again, he seems another guy than last PO series. What happened???
PJ with a great game. Underrated pick. Our Gordon.
Finally something good by Kleber, i don't like him against Zubac (who maked 3/4 easy layup against him) but at least he makes his wide open 3s and grabbed some rebounds this time. And with this **** Gafford we don't have more alternatives.

Kidd understand that Gafford can't play at the Crypto arena, started Lively in the second half like i said yesterday. It was a pretty and obviously move.
DJJ with an hustle come back game. Well done.
Exum was unplayable in those 2 games.
Green at least with a good effort but he has to make corner 3s.

**** Harden and his flops, in 2024 the refs still give him those phantom fouls. ****.

Kawhi at 25% maybe, kick him in his knee next game. No mercy. They beat up Luka everytime.
This is PO basketball.

Westbrook with his usual performance. Talk now puppet.

1-1.
User avatar
41Dirk41
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,346
And1: 1,852
Joined: Mar 26, 2021
     

Re: Playoffs 2024 - R1 - G2 - Mavs @ Clippers (Tuesd 100PM) 

Post#148 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:37 am

Clips players against Luka 2/17. Great defense. Well done.
Archx
RealGM
Posts: 10,148
And1: 8,031
Joined: Feb 09, 2018
 

Re: Playoffs 2024 - R1 - G2 - Mavs @ Clippers (Tuesd 100PM) 

Post#149 » by Archx » Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:15 am

41Dirk41 wrote:I lied... I didn't skip the game... But guys, i can't finish the series in this way. I'm totally drained.


In all these years you still didn't learn to trust me :D

Told you not to worry and Kawhi being back will result in a totally different Mavs. Harden and Russ offense was also a bit of a fluke. But this Mavs team is so predictable it's actually freaking annoying lol...

Luka still didn't have a good offensive game for his own standards and Kyrie still has another gear. People say how Mavs are in trouble if LAC shoot better %'s, well guess what, same goes for Mavs and specially Doncic.

So, if Mavs defense continues to hold like it did so far, i would say LAC are in big troubles specially if Luka has his normal offensive shooting %'s and numbers.

41Dirk41 wrote:Clips players against Luka 2/17. Great defense. Well done.


That's true. From ESPN.

According to ESPN Stats & Information, the Clippers shot only 2-of-17 from the floor when Doncic was the primary defender. LA missed all 11 shots that Doncic contested, the second-most field goal attempts contested without allowing a make in a playoff game over the past five years.
Mavrelous
Forum Mod - Mavericks
Forum Mod - Mavericks
Posts: 13,697
And1: 10,531
Joined: Aug 20, 2020

Re: Playoffs 2024 - R1 - G2 - Mavs @ Clippers (Tuesd 100PM) 

Post#150 » by Mavrelous » Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:39 am

41Dirk41 wrote:Clips players against Luka 2/17. Great defense. Well done.

They were taking turns on him and he denied them every single time, it was amazing to watch...
blicka wrote:Can't wait to see doncic on an island vs jimmy butler,paul george or kahwi leonard and those weak ass moves that work in europe getting shut down
User avatar
Dirk
Global Mod
Global Mod
Posts: 13,049
And1: 36,388
Joined: Dec 12, 2005
     

Re: Playoffs 2024 - R1 - G2 - Mavs @ Clippers (Tuesd 100PM) 

Post#151 » by Dirk » Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:00 am

Big time shots, by big time players.

60/21/10
User avatar
Dirk
Global Mod
Global Mod
Posts: 13,049
And1: 36,388
Joined: Dec 12, 2005
     

Re: Playoffs 2024 - R1 - G2 - Mavs @ Clippers (Tuesd 100PM) 

Post#152 » by Dirk » Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:14 am

What do you think Luka was saying, to anyone or simply celebrating his defense.

60/21/10
MassimoPayne
Sophomore
Posts: 101
And1: 75
Joined: Feb 08, 2024
Location: Germany
   

Re: Playoffs 2024 - R1 - G2 - Mavs @ Clippers (Tuesd 100PM) 

Post#153 » by MassimoPayne » Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:40 am

Man what a fight
Almost thought they screw it over with a couple of minutes left

Somehow Gaf and Lively don't work against the clippers which i don't understand.
on the other hand winning without Gaf and Liv dominating against the clippers is somehow unexpected
Maxi with a much needed vintage game. He is somehow still one of the better defenders in that league.

With all that upside that we have (Bigs, Luka's %, Dante) I am optimistic again. Hopefully Green will get THJs minutes and plays his ass off in defense. His corner 3 will come back. Didn't play a lot of minutes the last games

But can we please make our FTs? i don't want that to cost us any games. Especially when the clips are basically making all of them except Zubac
Darren
RealGM
Posts: 13,355
And1: 826
Joined: Nov 06, 2003

Re: Playoffs 2024 - R1 - G2 - Mavs @ Clippers (Tuesd 100PM) 

Post#154 » by Darren » Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:08 pm

I think Clippers have great size advantage over the Mavs. Among the top few teams, the Mavs only has size advantage over the OKC team. I don't like the optimism before game 1. Clippers is still a team to beat with or without Leonrard. The Mavs is playing rookies while the Clippers is playing veterans. This is the difference. How the young Mavs performs under pressure and adversity in an elimination game like that pays dividend big time, the Mavs gets hot at the right time this game to pull the game away. I think Lively and Waashington makes smart and timely plays in key moment, This ruins the game plan the Clippers has, They may get special treatment next game just like Gafford. Somebody else have to step up. It is playoff, Every game is down to the wire. When you get punched in the face, Punch back. Do not wait until tomorrow, Do not defer to a dumb coach. Who wants more, gets a win, as simply as that.
Darren
RealGM
Posts: 13,355
And1: 826
Joined: Nov 06, 2003

Re: Playoffs 2024 - R1 - G2 - Mavs @ Clippers (Tuesd 100PM) 

Post#155 » by Darren » Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:17 pm

I think the Clippers plays the passing lanes well early but can't keep it up with deterioring stamina. Makes thing physical and competes as a unit. Expand the age and depth advantages. This may shift the balance of the series when the playoff rookies getting increasing comfortable on the playoff floor.
Darren
RealGM
Posts: 13,355
And1: 826
Joined: Nov 06, 2003

Re: Playoffs 2024 - R1 - G2 - Mavs @ Clippers (Tuesd 100PM) 

Post#156 » by Darren » Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:19 pm

Regain the paint advantage and takes the Clippers out of the comfort zone.
User avatar
GermanFan120
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,793
And1: 1,127
Joined: Apr 30, 2008
   

Re: Playoffs 2024 - R1 - G2 - Mavs @ Clippers (Tuesd 100PM) 

Post#157 » by GermanFan120 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:27 pm

Dirk wrote:Big time shots, by big time players.




This was truly one of the two most important shots that won the game. The other one was the 3 from Luka.
Everyone has a right to be stupid. Some just abuse the privilege.
User avatar
41Dirk41
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,346
And1: 1,852
Joined: Mar 26, 2021
     

Re: Playoffs 2024 - R1 - G2 - Mavs @ Clippers (Tuesd 100PM) 

Post#158 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:38 pm

Limit our TOs should be the X-Factor in next games... Too many mistakes in the first two.

I know we have few good ballhandlers but we have to take care of the ball.

Lively played good and i hope his minutes will increase with PO exp. We need him.
Mavrelous
Forum Mod - Mavericks
Forum Mod - Mavericks
Posts: 13,697
And1: 10,531
Joined: Aug 20, 2020

Re: Playoffs 2024 - R1 - G2 - Mavs @ Clippers (Tuesd 100PM) 

Post#159 » by Mavrelous » Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:00 pm

Luka has played 88 out 96 minutes, has +/- of +11 in these minutes, the team was out scored by 20 in the 8 minutes he rested.
His on/off (The "off" portion is a small sample that gets massively inflated when extrapolating) is +128.4 per 100 possessions.
This was the case also in the 21 series, when he finished with on/off of +32, the main reason for this, Ty Lue is a great coach who masters PO defense, it made Brunson in 21 and Exum in 24 massive liability, you need geniuses to cope with the defenses he throws, and even then, sometimes you just can't do a thing about it.
blicka wrote:Can't wait to see doncic on an island vs jimmy butler,paul george or kahwi leonard and those weak ass moves that work in europe getting shut down
User avatar
41Dirk41
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,346
And1: 1,852
Joined: Mar 26, 2021
     

Re: Playoffs 2024 - R1 - G2 - Mavs @ Clippers (Tuesd 100PM) 

Post#160 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:25 pm

Mavrelous wrote:Luka has played 88 out 96 minutes, has +/- of +11 in these minutes, the team was out scored by 20 in the 8 minutes he rested.
His on/off (The "off" portion is a small sample that gets massively inflated when extrapolating) is +128.4 per 100 possessions.
This was the case also in the 21 series, when he finished with on/off of +32, the main reason for this, Ty Lue is a great coach who masters PO defense, it made Brunson in 21 and Exum in 24 massive liability, you need geniuses to cope with the defenses he throws, and even then, sometimes you just can't do a thing about it.


Agree but we don't have any game plan when Luka is out... That's absurd.

I think every under14 head coach in the world can teach a simple p&r or some schemes for corner 3s.
The NBA level of basketball coaching is very low honestly and even a mediocre one like Ty Lue is see as a great mastermind.

Oh yes, there still are teams who offer the job to Doc Rivers. Unbelievable. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Return to Dallas Mavericks