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Blue Jays Trade Rumors 2014(waiver trade deadline August 31)

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What do the Jays need at trade deadlines?

Starting Pitcher
30
45%
2nd baseman
26
39%
Relief pitcher
11
16%
 
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Post#421 » by Michael Bradley » Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:47 pm

MikeM wrote:I'm not sure Stroman is in the same class as Sanchez. I wouldn't be against trading him.


The Jays might even be selling high on Stroman if they trade him, given his size and how rare it is for pitchers that size to do well in starting roles. The issue with AA is that Stroman could probably pitch in the big leagues out of ST, while Sanchez is at least a year away, if not more. We will have to see if AA decides to make a reactionary short-term move or a more calculated one.
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Post#422 » by There There » Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:50 pm

JP Morosi is such a **** troll.

He's on PTS screaming about how the Jays could have got in on that Skaggs/Santiago deal had they put Bautista out there.

Skaggs would be nice, but Santiago is certainly no better than Hutchison, so let's move Bautista for that?

And now, just to be sure that there were no misunderstandings, he repeated himself that putting Bautista out there should bring back a similar return to Trumbo.

Jesus ****.
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Post#423 » by MikeM » Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:54 pm

There There wrote:JP Morosi is such a **** troll.

He's on PTS screaming about how the Jays could have got in on that Skaggs/Santiago deal had they put Bautista out there.

Skaggs would be nice, but Santiago is certainly no better than Hutchison, so let's move Bautista for that?

And now, just to be sure that there were no misunderstandings, he repeated himself that putting Bautista out there should bring back a similar return to Trumbo.

Jesus ****.


Ya he's an idiot. But Damien Cox asking if we could get the same or worse than Trumbo. My god. :lol:
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Re: Blue Jays Trade & Free Agency Rumors 

Post#424 » by There There » Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:23 pm

MikeM wrote:
There There wrote:JP Morosi is such a **** troll.

He's on PTS screaming about how the Jays could have got in on that Skaggs/Santiago deal had they put Bautista out there.

Skaggs would be nice, but Santiago is certainly no better than Hutchison, so let's move Bautista for that?

And now, just to be sure that there were no misunderstandings, he repeated himself that putting Bautista out there should bring back a similar return to Trumbo.

Jesus ****.


Ya he's an idiot. But Damien Cox asking if we could get the same or worse than Trumbo. My god. :lol:


Cox has always been a lunatic though, so it's less surprising.

The fact that the FAN/SN continue to use Morosi as their go-to "insider" blows my mind.
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Post#425 » by s e n s i » Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:28 pm

the only difference between morosi and anyone here is that he has media credentials. he once said something about how colby rasmus doesn't have winning baseball instincts, and then strangely admitted he was wrong when colby hit a walk-off single like a week later. as if a singular hit is the difference between having and not having "winning baseball instincts" among other weird things he's said
galacticos2 wrote:MLB needs to introduce an Amnesty clause. Bautista would be my first victim.

Bautista outplays his contract by more than $70 million over the next four seasons (2013-2016).
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Post#426 » by MikeM » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:02 am

I feel like throwing out a name that I think we're looking at. Jon Niese.
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Post#427 » by There There » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:30 am

MikeM wrote:I feel like throwing out a name that I think we're looking at. Jon Niese.


Best part is that we should have some layaway value in d'Arnaud and Syndergaard.
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Post#428 » by MikeM » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:38 am

Apparently we were willing to trade those 2 for Niese or Dickey, if I remember correctly.
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Post#429 » by MikeM » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:16 am

“He wanted X amount of dollars, guaranteed,” Anthopoulos recalled. “Didn’t care if it was three years, four years, two years, he just wanted that guaranteed number. That’s it. That number, whichever way we wanted. So I ended up signing a two-year deal.

“He would’ve gotten the guaranteed number over three (from the Jays), it didn’t matter to us. He had proposed the same dollar amount to us over three. To some players, some agents, it’s about, ‘What am I being guaranteed as a player?’”

Is AA kidding right now?
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Post#430 » by Ado05 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:28 am

MikeM wrote:“He wanted X amount of dollars, guaranteed,” Anthopoulos recalled. “Didn’t care if it was three years, four years, two years, he just wanted that guaranteed number. That’s it. That number, whichever way we wanted. So I ended up signing a two-year deal.

“He would’ve gotten the guaranteed number over three (from the Jays), it didn’t matter to us. He had proposed the same dollar amount to us over three. To some players, some agents, it’s about, ‘What am I being guaranteed as a player?’”

Is AA kidding right now?

What player is being talked about right now?
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Post#431 » by RapsAndJays21 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:54 am

Per The Score Update, apparently the Jays have offered Rasmus to 2 teams for starting pitching. Needless to say, I'll be very disappointed if he leaves.
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Post#432 » by El Bow » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:00 am

Adrian_05 wrote:
MikeM wrote:“He wanted X amount of dollars, guaranteed,” Anthopoulos recalled. “Didn’t care if it was three years, four years, two years, he just wanted that guaranteed number. That’s it. That number, whichever way we wanted. So I ended up signing a two-year deal.

“He would’ve gotten the guaranteed number over three (from the Jays), it didn’t matter to us. He had proposed the same dollar amount to us over three. To some players, some agents, it’s about, ‘What am I being guaranteed as a player?’”

Is AA kidding right now?

What player is being talked about right now?

Melky Cabrera. The quote's from Richard Griffin's article
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Post#433 » by Michael Bradley » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:05 am

RapsAndJays21 wrote:Per The Score Update, apparently the Jays have offered Rasmus to 2 teams for starting pitching. Needless to say, I'll be very disappointed if he leaves.


I have said before, if the Jays had anyone capable of replacing him at CF, then Rasmus would be a good sell high candidate. His BABIP has been mentioned a lot already, as has his 2nd half nosedives every year, and he seems like one of those players who won't be consistent year to year. He is a good player, but not a player I'd feel comfortable locking up long-term. With that said, who replaces him in 2014 if he is moved? Hopefully not Gose. I was hoping the Jays traded for Peter Bourjos, but the Cardinals made that trade already.
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Post#434 » by CapeCrusader » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:36 am

I like Colby, no way I trade him especially with Gose most likely being his replacement.
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Post#435 » by RapsAndJays21 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:40 am

The only way I'd trade Colby would be if we were lined up to move BP assets for Kemp. I'm not up to speed on his injury though, serious or not?
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Post#436 » by DonYon » Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:13 am

MikeM wrote:“He wanted X amount of dollars, guaranteed,” Anthopoulos recalled. “Didn’t care if it was three years, four years, two years, he just wanted that guaranteed number. That’s it. That number, whichever way we wanted. So I ended up signing a two-year deal.

“He would’ve gotten the guaranteed number over three (from the Jays), it didn’t matter to us. He had proposed the same dollar amount to us over three. To some players, some agents, it’s about, ‘What am I being guaranteed as a player?’”

Is AA kidding right now?


I'm sure he meant X amount of dollars per year
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Post#437 » by torontoaces04 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:10 am

Why the hell would the Jays be trying the trade Colby Rasmus? He was arguably our best overall player last year, and plays a premium position. Is AA really that gun-shy when it comes to ponying up on a new deal for Rasmus?!? I understand that he's probably our best asset, not name Bautista or Encarnacion, but to me this makes no sense. Who is going to fill the huge hole that trading Rasmus would leave? Gose is nowhere ready to step in on a full-time basis, and I don't like the idea of a platoon w/ Sierra much either.

It really does seem that those trades last off-season have screwed the Jays up for the foreseeable future. We're going to have a $140 mill payroll, without really doing much else. The coffers seem pretty dry, and it doesn't seem reasonable to expect this team to spend $160 mill +, so we're kinda SOL.
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Post#438 » by Wo1verine » Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:42 am

I wouldn't mind trading Rasmus if we acquired a young SP who is controllable with some upside and replaced Colby with someone not named Gose in CF.

If we can't do that, i am not thinking about moving him.
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Post#439 » by Graham's Cracker » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:05 pm

Wo1verine wrote:I wouldn't mind trading Rasmus if we acquired a young SP who is controllable with some upside and replaced Colby with someone not named Gose in CF.

If we can't do that, i am not thinking about moving him.


Here's a question for y'all; Would you have traded Rasmus for what the D-Backs gave up for Trumbo? Eaton as a replacement for Colby in CF and he could have given us a top of the lineup tablesetter CF that's under control for several more years, while Skaggs could be flipped in a deal for SP or replace Stroman in the prospect pool if he was the one that was dealt (for Samardizja for example). The deal would have also freed up about ~$5-6 mil in payroll.

Trumbo has been more consistent than Colby over the past 3 years, however, Colby provides better D and baserunning. Obviously Trumbo is under team control for a couple more years than Colby.
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Re: Blue Jays Trade & Free Agency Rumors 

Post#440 » by MikeM » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:28 pm

Graham's Cracker wrote:
Wo1verine wrote:I wouldn't mind trading Rasmus if we acquired a young SP who is controllable with some upside and replaced Colby with someone not named Gose in CF.

If we can't do that, i am not thinking about moving him.


Here's a question for y'all; Would you have traded Rasmus for what the D-Backs gave up for Trumbo? Eaton as a replacement for Colby in CF and he could have given us a top of the lineup tablesetter CF that's under control for several more years, while Skaggs could be flipped in a deal for SP or replace Stroman in the prospect pool if he was the one that was dealt (for Samardizja for example). The deal would have also freed up about ~$5-6 mil in payroll.

Trumbo has been more consistent than Colby over the past 3 years, however, Colby provides better D and baserunning. Obviously Trumbo is under team control for a couple more years than Colby.


Yes, I would have done that but LAA didn't get both of them, one went to CWS.

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