Parataxis wrote:LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:bluerap23 wrote:Anyone that doesn't see this as a cost-cutting move is delusional. No doubt we have spent over the past few years (not so wisely) but the tides are turning. We are a worse ball club than we were yesterday. There is still time to improve but the loss of Teo (and likely Stipling) is going to hurt.
i don't think it needed to be said.
Jays are a top 10 payroll team. these are decisions that need to be made. $40M difference between the Jays (@ #10 ) to the Mets (#1)
https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll/Again, this is nothing against Aktins. If he was tasked to reduce payroll because owners said so, he's handcuffed to do so. but then again, what would have been a
realistic return for Teo? considering even I wouldn't even re-sign him to a large contract.
it seems that the Jays offered him something but it wasn't in the range he believes he was worth.
Realistically, the starting price for Teo should have been something that would be roughly equivallent to the draft pick compensation that we'd have gotten had we given him a QO next year.
And we got that + more.
I would disagree with we got more than the draft pick compensation. I think you have to look at the opportunity cost of 1 year of Teo + draft pick as the equivalent metric, and I don't think Swanson is
that guy. He had a great year, his underlying stats say he should regress a little bit but still be a quality reliever. However, by the same token, we all agree that relief pitching is volatile and varies year to year. I'm of the opinion that you wait out the market for RP, and go bargain bin shopping near the end of FA; and then eventually solidify your pen at the trade deadline. The Jays haven't done well in this department the last few years.
As for the trade, I believe once again we got less value than the player going the other way. It's a trade with future implications (you hope), and not a straight salary dump. If it's purely made from the standpoint of a salary dump, then the team has not improved, and will probably take a couple of steps back. And if it is was just to dump salary, we should have gotten more prospects back as opposed to a relief pitcher.
I do think this trade was made with the intention of extending at least one of Bo or Vlad this offseason, and they need to free up money to sign other short-term contracts for the next 2-3 seasons. I don't see the Jays signing an OF long-term this offseason, I think it's more likely they trade one of their catchers for an OF, and/or take a one-year flier on a guy like Bellinger. Overall, don't like the deal as I thought we could have gotten more for Teo, or simply let him play out the year and leave with a comp pick next year.