2019 Minor Leagues/Prospect Discussion Thread

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I agree that the Jays might not want to rush him. But plenty of top prospects these days usually get a chance to skip Triple-A and make the major league team if they've shown that they can dominate Double-A for a full season.

Rowdy's done well, but I don;t think he has dominated AA. He's fifth in the league in homers, with about half the homers of the two Philly prospects who lead the league. His slash line is one of the best, but at age 21 he would seem to be an excellent candidate to move up a level and deal with better pitching.

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Do we have a super player like Gary Sanchez in our system ?

how is that fair ?

Maybe this is why Shapkins are taking a different approach with our scouting ...

get the best guys you can buy / draft, not just because of your budget.

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Do we have a super player like Gary Sanchez in our system ?

how is that fair ?

Maybe this is why Shapkins are taking a different approach with our scouting ...

get the best guys you can buy / draft, not just because of your budget.

Gary Sanchez isn't a "super player".

[wazabifuzz]

Do we have a super player like Gary Sanchez in our system ?

how is that fair ?

Maybe this is why Shapkins are taking a different approach with our scouting ...

get the best guys you can buy / draft, not just because of your budget.

Gary Sanchez isn't a "super player".

I was gonna write super prospect. but i don't think he's going to be a prospect anymore. he's gonna play full time next year.
but he's just another young yankee bomber that knows how to hit.

[vaff87]

Do we have a super player like Gary Sanchez in our system ?

how is that fair ?

Maybe this is why Shapkins are taking a different approach with our scouting ...

get the best guys you can buy / draft, not just because of your budget.

Gary Sanchez isn't a "super player".

I was gonna write super prospect. but i don't think he's going to be a prospect anymore. he's gonna play full time next year.
but he's just another young yankee bomber that knows how to hit.

He's not a super prospect, either. He's a good prospect that is off to a ridiculous start. He's not Mike Trout or Corey Seager or something. He'll come back to earth.

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Sanchez is the Yankees' No. 4 prospect - 32nd overall in MLB Pipeline - so logic says he's a very good prospect at a high leverage position off to an unsustainable start.

Considering we don't have a prospect in the top 80 of MLB Pipeline, one can make the case that from the perspective of rankings only, we don't have a prospect of his calibre yet. Our best candidates are in the low minors and have to sustain their early success at higher levels before they are ranked as high as Sanchez. And as I noted, Sanchez is ranked fourth among Yankee prospects. NYY has about the most top level prospect talent of any team, along with Boston. That's going to be the Jays issue going forward. The Jays have the oldest average age of any MLB team, and Shapiro's challenge is to keep the Jays relevant for the next 3-4 season until that talent in the mid to lower minors graduates to the majors and gains some experience.

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Bo Bichette is back after a month-long hiatus. Went 1-2 with a double and a walk yesterday.

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IOWA CITY, Iowa -- Matt Dermody received a call to the Buffalo manager's office Wednesday following the team's Triple A game against Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. Gary Allenson had good news.

It was during that meeting that Dermody, a 2013 University of Iowa graduate and four-year Hawkeye letterwinner, learned of his Sept. 1 call-up to Major League Baseball's Toronto Blue Jays.

"I am not a big jump-for-joy kind of guy," said Dermody. "But I was like, 'Cool, awesome, thank-you.'"

It was the culmination of a season-long journey where Dermody made three stops in Toronto's minor league system. He started the year in Dunedin playing at Advanced Class A level, was promoted to Double A New Hampshire before joining the Bisons in July.

Dermody went 3-1 with a 1.82 ERA over the three stops. In 47 games, he tossed 54 1/3 innings, where he had 47 strikeouts.

"It has been quite the road," said Dermody, a lefty relief pitching specialist. "I am grateful for everything that has happened."

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Joshua Palacios continues to get hits. After hitting .355 in Vancouver, so far he's hitting .455 in Lansing.

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I'm counting on Rowdy to become the best hitter our system has produced since, uh, Aaron Hill and Adam Lind?? Yikes.

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I'm counting on Rowdy to become the best hitter our system has produced since, uh, Aaron Hill and Adam Lind?? Yikes.

Within the next two years, Kevin Pillar will likely become the second-most valuable position player drafted (and signed; sorry, Kris Bryant) by the Jays since 1999.

I'd love one an oral history of the 2008 draft, too. -2.3 bWAR from the entire class eight years out is really something.

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#22 for Rowdy tonight.

Then a double for his 80th RBI.

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I'm counting on Rowdy to become the best hitter our system has produced since, uh, Aaron Hill and Adam Lind?? Yikes.

Within the next two years, Kevin Pillar will likely become the second-most valuable position player drafted (and signed; sorry, Kris Bryant) by the Jays since 1999.

I'd love one an oral history of the 2008 draft, too. -2.3 bWAR from the entire class eight years out is really something.

Any idea how close the Jays were to signing Kris Bryant? Was there a number he would have signed for? If so, were the Jays anywhere close?

I specifically remember a poster here saying he'd rather sign him than Deck McGuire.

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Any idea how close the Jays were to signing Kris Bryant? Was there a number he would have signed for? If so, were the Jays anywhere close?

I specifically remember a poster here saying he'd rather sign him than Deck McGuire.

He was a pretty strong commit; we drafted him late and threw a bunch of money at him (late first/early second dollars, if I remember correctly), and he didn't blink. I'm generally of the 'you don't turn down seven figures' school of agenting-from-afar, but he might have gotten that one right.

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Any idea how close the Jays were to signing Kris Bryant? Was there a number he would have signed for? If so, were the Jays anywhere close?

I specifically remember a poster here saying he'd rather sign him than Deck McGuire.

He was a pretty strong commit; we drafted him late and threw a bunch of money at him (late first/early second dollars, if I remember correctly), and he didn't blink. I'm generally of the 'you don't turn down seven figures' school of agenting-from-afar, but he might have gotten that one right.

He gave up 3? (Although maybe not that much depending on when he would have been promoted by the Jays vs the Cubs) years of contract control though. If it's early second money, I just can't see that ever being worth it, really.

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#23 for Rowdy

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#23 for Rowdy

When's he going to get the respect he deserves as a prospect throughout the league?

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Quality start by Justin Maese. 5.2 of two hit shutout ball with two walks, both of which came in his last inning when he was tiring a bit.

Oh, 7K

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That's generally my feeling, as well; there are good reasons for 'advisors' to maximize overall bonuses even if it means a few kids turn down money that they never see again, but as a player or their family I'd take the money and run...too many things that can go wrong in three years of college, and it gets you professional coaching at an earlier date, plus a good shot to get that service clock ticking a couple years sooner.

But given how much he improved in college, the differential in his bonus, and the fact that he reached the majors at 23, he probably did okay all things considered. Getting to the bigs one year earlier likely would have boosted his career earnings, but it's hard to argue that a guy who'll likely exit baseball having made $500m went about it the wrong way.