GT: (21-14) Blue Jays @ (16-19) Phillies: May 9-10

[TOStateofMind]

Espinal and Bo disaster class on D. Terrible.

[Randle McMurphy]

Read on Twitter

Not a serious team until they move him off the position.

[Hottie McShotty]

LMFAOOOOOOO

what a sht game to lose. feel awful for gausman

bichette is a 2b

what a BS of a game and what a wasted opportunity. i feel bad for Gausman.

[Madvillainy2004]

Taylor made Double play and Bo throws it out of the stadium. Frustrating loss and the games don't get any easier with ATL coming on the weekend.

Schiender is horrific tho, the writing should've been on the wall after he ****ed the wild card game.

[linery88]

Botched DP.....Espinal / Bo...its time to swap positions.
We should still be playing this game right now.

[Mehar]

LMFAOOOOOOO

what a sht game to lose. feel awful for gausman

bichette is a 2b

Bichette is better served at Second Base over SS. Not sure why this organization did not address this past off-season, and told him he would not be the SS anymore when we can call see he is better suited for Second Base. Just a frustrating way to lose with both Espinal and Bichette not making the plays when it counted.

[Randle McMurphy]

Botched DP.....Espinal / Bo...its time to swap positions.
We should still be playing this game right now.

Espinal is horrific defensively this year and made a mistake in this very game that nearly cost them it. Definitely shouldn't be swapping positions.

The team should be acquiring an actual shortstop at some point.

[duppyy]

Schneider should’ve never got the full time job without interviewing other managers.

Also shouldn’t mattingley who is a vet be telling him not to do stupid things? Unless he agrees with all his decisions

[linery88]

Botched DP.....Espinal / Bo...its time to swap positions.
We should still be playing this game right now.

Espinal is horrific defensively this year and made a mistake in this very game that nearly cost them it. Definitely shouldn't be swapping positions.

The team should be acquiring an actual shortstop at some point.

I think Espinal has lost confidence in the field not playing SS,while watching his replacement blow throws.

Great game by Gausman....he is a number 1 to me.

Loss,assisted by Schneider,and Bo.

[Mehar]

This team does need to acquire a Long-term SS, but we are stuck again at SS with Bo for this year. No way they will hurt his fragile ego by moving him now to Second Base, when he told the media previously last year that he "envisions himself as a SS" and does not prefer any move to Second Base. Ultimately, in the off-season this organization needs to acquire another SS, and tell Bo he has no option but to switch to Second, like when this team signed Marcus Semien. 61 Errors now for Bo Bichette since 2019, which is unheard of. Ideally, Bichette would be my everyday DH.

[linery88]

This team does need to acquire a Long-term SS, but we are stuck again at SS with Bo for this year. No way they will hurt his fragile ego by moving him now to Second Base, when he told the media previously last year that he "envisions himself as a SS" and does not prefer any move to Second Base. Ultimately, in the off-season this organization needs to acquire another SS, and tell Bo he has no option but to switch to Second, like when this team signed Marcus Semien. 61 Errors now for Bo Bichette since 2019, which is unheard of. Ideally, Bichette would be my everyday DH.

Semien also helped Vladdy almost win a triple crown,but back to Bo...

Imagine Espinals P.O.V. being replaced by someone who he is better than.
Is that a winning move ? DOH rhymes with no it isnt.

[Boogie!]

Blowmano strikes again.

[Ranger One]

really concerned about Manoah now. he is thrown off by the pitch clock and pace it seems. not trying to be a debbie downer but he will probably be the least effective pitcher until he gets used to it by 2nd half of the season or worse, next season. his sliders are not working at all and his k% is trending down too.

2021 - 28%
2022 - 23%
2023 - 17%

Was listening to Steve Philips this morning and he said the pitch clock thing is just excuse making at this point whenever people bring it up because every pitcher in the majors also has to deal with it. And I agree with him. Something is completely off with Manoah this year and it's not the pitch clock. They need to figure it out fast before he becomes the Kikuchi of last year.

Why wouldn't/couldn't it be the pitch clock? Just because every pitcher has to deal with it doesn't mean that every pitcher is going to deal with it the same way. Some are going to struggle with it much more than others and Manoah (perhaps due to his huge weight/size) appears to be one of those guys.

Given that he was previously one of the league's slowest starting pitchers, the pace he has to pitch at now really is the best explanation for why his command and stuff is gone and why his delivery is a mess.

Yeah...no. Im gonna trust the opinion of Someone who's actually been in Baseball his entire life over some random neckbeard on an internet forum. Just because you WANT it to be true, doesnt make it so. Sorry bud, thats not how life works.

[Randle McMurphy]

Was listening to Steve Philips this morning and he said the pitch clock thing is just excuse making at this point whenever people bring it up because every pitcher in the majors also has to deal with it. And I agree with him. Something is completely off with Manoah this year and it's not the pitch clock. They need to figure it out fast before he becomes the Kikuchi of last year.

Why wouldn't/couldn't it be the pitch clock? Just because every pitcher has to deal with it doesn't mean that every pitcher is going to deal with it the same way. Some are going to struggle with it much more than others and Manoah (perhaps due to his huge weight/size) appears to be one of those guys.

Given that he was previously one of the league's slowest starting pitchers, the pace he has to pitch at now really is the best explanation for why his command and stuff is gone and why his delivery is a mess.

Yeah...no. Im gonna trust the opinion of Someone who's actually been in Baseball his entire life over some random neckbeard on an internet forum. Just because you WANT it to be true, doesnt make it so. Sorry bud, thats not how life works.

And this would be the definition of this: https://www.grammarly.com/blog/appeal-to-authority-fallacy/#:~:text=The%20appeal%20to%20authority%20fallacy%20is%20the%20logical%20fallacy%20of,related%20to%20the%20claim's%20subject.

Attack the actual argument next time instead of spewing the nonsense above. If you don't think that some pitchers could be/are impacted by the quick pace of the pitch clock more than others (particularly especially large pitchers who pitched at a very slow pace), explain why.

[Fairview4Life]

Someone who’s actually been in baseball but also someone who has never pitched with a pitch clock. Saying it isn’t the pitch clock but providing no other plausible reason, is silly. Manoah pitched really slowly. Now he can’t do that. The other option, he just can’t pitch anymore for no real reason, is lacking.

[Randle McMurphy]

Someone who’s actually been in baseball but also someone who has never pitched with a pitch clock. Saying it isn’t the pitch clock but providing no other plausible reason, is silly. Manoah pitched really slowly. Now he can’t do that. The other option, he just can’t pitch anymore for no real reason, is lacking.

Agreed. Now it may or may not be the pitch clock (some pitchers do rarely just fall off a cliff sometimes and never get it back), but it stands to reason that it is playing a factor given the pace he used to pitch games at and is going to be a bigger adjustment for those pitchers than others.

[Ranger One]

Someone who’s actually been in baseball but also someone who has never pitched with a pitch clock. Saying it isn’t the pitch clock but providing no other plausible reason, is silly. Manoah pitched really slowly. Now he can’t do that. The other option, he just can’t pitch anymore for no real reason, is lacking.

Thanks for making my point lmao. So Philips hasnt pitched with a shot clock. So what? He is still around the teams, the players (he talks to them, watches them in person etc) and thus has much more insight into whats going on than the random ramblings, assumptions and conjectures of certain RealGM posters who think they are always right and everyone is always wrong.

[Randle McMurphy]

So it it your argument that every pitcher, no matter what pace they used to pitch at or their relative size/fitness level, is affected exactly the same by the pitch clock? Still waiting on that one.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Can’t we all just agree it’s a little bit of A and a little bit of B because no one actually knows what is wrong with Manoah and he hasn’t confirmed anything. By seasons end, the pitching coaches and Manoah will probably come up with a reason why he’s going through this dry spell/suckage.


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[linery88]

I think they should add 5 to 10 more seconds for the pitchers,and they will because in the off season MLB will be hearing from them because it doesn,t look like they can change it now.Have already heard one pitcher say he was huffing ,and puffing because of the clock.They will also probably add 1-2 more attempts to prevent base stealing,if they add extra pitcher time-imo.