2023 Playoff Chase & Standings Watch

[Randle McMurphy]

Seattle going down. We truly got the worst case scenario in this series.

Playoff hopes are now fading fast. Looking increasingly like we're gonna have to actually win the Rays series to make it.

[JN]

Seattle going down. We truly got the worst case scenario in this series.

Playoff hopes are now fading fast. Looking increasingly like we're gonna have to actually win the Rays series to make it.

You are being unnecessarily over dramatic (And no this is not an endorsement of our mediocre team in any way)

We are nowhere near the point where we have 2 of 3 against Tampa. And Seattle losing 2 out of 3 vs Houston, is really not much different to us then Houston losing 2 out of 3 to Seattle. There was still fairly hard to achieve scenarios for either one of them. Other than a sweep it wasn't really that relevant who took 2 out of 3 that series.

Win 1 game of the final 4, both of the following have to happen:
- Seattle still has to win 3 of the final 4 against Texas
- Houston has to win 2 of 3 at Arizona.

Win 1 against NY and 1 against Tampa, both of the following have to happen
- Seattle has to sweep Texas
and
- Houston has to sweep Arizona

There is a reason Fangraphs still has us at 91%. Because even with our questionable play, teams have to overachieve around us.

[Randle McMurphy]

Seattle going down. We truly got the worst case scenario in this series.

Playoff hopes are now fading fast. Looking increasingly like we're gonna have to actually win the Rays series to make it.

At this point your just being unnecessarily over dramatic (And no this is not an endorsement of our mediocre team in any way)

We are nowhere near the point where we have 2 of 3 against Tampa. And Seattle losing 2 out of 3 vs Houston, is really not much different to us then Houston losing 2 out of 3 to Seattle. There was still fairly hard to achieve scenarios for either one of them. Other than a sweep it wasn't really that relevant who took 2 out of 3 that series.

Win 1 game of the final 4, both of the following have to happen:
- Seattle still has to win 3 of the final 4 against Texas
- Houston has to win 2 of 3 at Arizona.

Win 1 against NY and 1 against Tampa, both of the following have to happen
- Seattle has to sweep Texas
and
- Houston has to sweep Arizona

There is a reason Fangraphs still has us at 91%. Because even with our questionable play, teams have to overachieve around us.

Only at this point?

In any case, we're two games up with four to play on Seattle and we don't have the tiebreaker on them. If they win 3 of 4 on the Rangers, we have to win 2 of 4 to make it (I'm not expecting Houston to lose a series to an Arizona team who will likely clinch tomorrow night). Is anybody optimistic they could do that right now?

[Randle McMurphy]

The lone positive I can find of tonight's result is that the Rangers have to try in, at a minimum, Thursday and Friday's games against the Mariners to win the division. That'll help somewhat.

[JN]

Seattle going down. We truly got the worst case scenario in this series.

Playoff hopes are now fading fast. Looking increasingly like we're gonna have to actually win the Rays series to make it.

At this point your just being unnecessarily over dramatic (And no this is not an endorsement of our mediocre team in any way)

We are nowhere near the point where we have 2 of 3 against Tampa. And Seattle losing 2 out of 3 vs Houston, is really not much different to us then Houston losing 2 out of 3 to Seattle. There was still fairly hard to achieve scenarios for either one of them. Other than a sweep it wasn't really that relevant who took 2 out of 3 that series.

Win 1 game of the final 4, both of the following have to happen:
- Seattle still has to win 3 of the final 4 against Texas
- Houston has to win 2 of 3 at Arizona.

Win 1 against NY and 1 against Tampa, both of the following have to happen
- Seattle has to sweep Texas
and
- Houston has to sweep Arizona

There is a reason Fangraphs still has us at 91%. Because even with our questionable play, teams have to overachieve around us.

Only at this point?

In any case, we're two games up with four to play on Seattle and we don't have the tiebreaker on them. If they win 3 of 4 on the Rangers, we have to win 2 of 4 to make it (I'm not expecting Houston to lose a series to an Arizona team who will likely clinch tomorrow night). Is anybody optimistic they could do that right now?

I agree that our chances have taken a bit of a hit, but I guess we don't agree on the extent -- to me the big hit comes if we lose that very winnable game tonight. I do agree it would be better if Seattle had won last night, and you are right that some teams are not going to go all out.... but those not "all out" teams are still better than the sluff Oakland or KC throws out there, so they are not easy wins for anybody.

We still have what should be a very winnable game against Luke "Dream" Weaver ... if we lose tonight then of course everything is on the table at that point.Tonight is really going to determine how much "pressure" the team is going to put on themselves, and relying on others.

If we lose tonight it likely brings in a Scenario where we need to pitch Gausman on Sunday... a possible scenario could be we are in if any one of the following 3 happen on Sunday - Toronto win, Seattle loss, Houston loss. In that scenario we are still over 75% likely to get in on the final day, but we have also wasted our best pitcher in the regular season rather than the playoffs. That would be a massive hit.

[JN]

Do you think Tampa would prefer to play us, avoid us, or just don't care between Houston, Seattle and Toronto? I know Houston has struggled, but on paper they would still seem the most threatening team come playoff time.

Also thinking of a scenario where we get to Sunday needing to throw Gausman, and the 5th/6th/7th seed are all up in the air. I'm thinking Tampa might be glad to just let us win, knowing they get to then face us without Gausman.

[C Court]

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[Randle McMurphy]

Do you think Tampa would prefer to play us, avoid us, or just don't care between Houston, Seattle and Toronto? I know Houston has struggled, but on paper they would still seem the most threatening team come playoff time.

Also thinking of a scenario where we get to Sunday needing to throw Gausman, and the 5th/6th/7th seed are all up in the air. I'm thinking Tampa might be glad to just let us win, knowing they get to then face us without Gausman.

I think Tampa would prefer to play us than Houston. Their offense is stacked and they have Justin Verlander.

The Rays are also completely shameless and might be the only organization in baseball who would effectively tank an entire game to set what they believe to be a favourable playoff matchup as well. Let's hope the circumstances allow them to do it.

[Michael Bradley]

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Chances of a 4 way tie are slim since the Mariners would have to sweep the Rangers, which while possible is unlikely.

The Rangers winning the West while the other 3 teams are tied is the most likely tie breaker scenario that could happen based on the way the standings look now, but that favors the Jays.

If the Jays go 2-2, then they should be fine. Tonight is a must win. The weekend series likely won't mean anything to the Rays as early as tonight with an Orioles win but the Jays couldn't hit at Rogers Centre if they were facing one of us on the mound, so we can't assume they'll hit enough even if the other team doesn't care about the result.

[Randle McMurphy]

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Some significant help for the Jays here with Arizona not clinching today and Gallen going on Friday.

[JN]

Do you think Tampa would prefer to play us, avoid us, or just don't care between Houston, Seattle and Toronto? I know Houston has struggled, but on paper they would still seem the most threatening team come playoff time.

Also thinking of a scenario where we get to Sunday needing to throw Gausman, and the 5th/6th/7th seed are all up in the air. I'm thinking Tampa might be glad to just let us win, knowing they get to then face us without Gausman.

I think Tampa would prefer to play us than Houston. Their offense is stacked and they have Justin Verlander.

The Rays are also completely shameless and might be the only organization in baseball who would effectively tank an entire game to set what they believe to be a favourable playoff matchup as well. Let's hope the circumstances allow them to do it.

Baltimore could clinch tonight.
I do agree that with Houston being the team they would least like to face.

Could Tampa start their shenanigans on Friday night (instead of Sunday) to ensure they control the narrative in terms of opposition as early as possible? The counter is that the best case scenario for Tampa might be to somehow force Toronto to use Gausman on Sunday.

[Mak]

Baltimore clinched and Rays have nothing to play for.

Go Texas. Go Astros.

[Mak]

OMG Chapman is doing his Romano impression.

[Randle McMurphy]

OMG Chapman is doing his Romano impression.

When has Romano ever looked even close to as bad as that?

[Potential]

[Mak]

Ughhhh Jesus

[Boogie!]

Damn. I thought Mariners were gonna pull a jayz with the bases loaded. **** Crawford. He was the one that **** us last year too...

[Boogie!]

OMG Chapman is doing his Romano impression.

When has Romano ever looked even close to as bad as that?

This can't be a real question.

[Randle McMurphy]

OMG Chapman is doing his Romano impression.

When has Romano ever looked even close to as bad as that?

This can't be a real question.

Did you happen to watch what Chapman did that inning?

[Randle McMurphy]

Anyway, that was a massive hit to the Jays' playoff chances. What a total choke by Chapman. Getting increasingly more likely the Jays are gonna have to win the Rays series, especially with the possibility of a 4 way tie with the Rangers back in play.