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Re: GT: Blue Jays @ Rays - Sept 22 - Sept 24 

Post#681 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:28 pm

Like he's obviously not Mariano Rivera or Trevor Hoffman (or even Roberto Osuna), but you're not getting anything better than this guy outside the organization without paying a massive, massive price. I'm not even sure what the point of the discussion is.
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Re: GT: Blue Jays @ Rays - Sept 22 - Sept 24 

Post#682 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:29 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
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Hicks a touch better though.

He was definitely a touch better in this series.


moreso past 2 months

Wasn't the case until yesterday.
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Re: GT: Blue Jays @ Rays - Sept 22 - Sept 24 

Post#683 » by JN » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:29 pm

Texas bullpen is doing their thing.
If KC and Texas can both hang on today, our playoff probabilities (per Fangraph) will shoot over 95%.
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Re: GT: Blue Jays @ Rays - Sept 22 - Sept 24 

Post#684 » by Mehar » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:30 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Hicks a touch better though.

He was definitely a touch better in this series.


moreso past 2 months

You are correct. Hicks has been tremendous for nearly two months now. You compare the numbers of Romano vs. Hicks since August 1st, and Hicks has been the better reliever.
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Re: GT: Blue Jays @ Rays - Sept 22 - Sept 24 

Post#685 » by pingpongrac » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:31 pm

What am I reading in this thread? Romano is just an above average pitcher? Hicks makes people feel more comfortable despite Romano posting better numbers across the board (K/BB ratio, FIP, ERA+, WHIP, SV%, etc.) for his career as well as this season?

Romano has legitimately been a top 10 reliever in his career thus far and he has still been very good this season even in a bit of a down year. It's like people only remember the past few weeks in which Romano has admittedly been pretty shaky while Hicks has been rolling. We shouldn't be ignoring the other 200+ games of their careers though.
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Re: GT: Blue Jays @ Rays - Sept 22 - Sept 24 

Post#686 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:32 pm

JN wrote:Texas bullpen is doing their thing.
If KC and Texas can both hang on today, our playoff probabilities (per Fangraph) will shoot over 95%.

Royals need one more scoreless inning. Could they do it?
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Re: GT: Blue Jays @ Rays - Sept 22 - Sept 24 

Post#687 » by WuTang_OG » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:33 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
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Randle McMurphy wrote:He was definitely a touch better in this series.


moreso past 2 months

Wasn't the case until yesterday.

nope

Hicks last 7 weeks 0.91 whip vs romano's 1.27

hicks last 8 weeks .95 whip vs 1.27

Hicks also in 11 more games
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Re: GT: Blue Jays @ Rays - Sept 22 - Sept 24 

Post#688 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:33 pm

pingpongrac wrote:What am I reading in this thread? Romano is just an above average pitcher? Hicks makes people feel more comfortable despite Romano posting better numbers across the board (K/BB ratio, FIP, ERA+, WHIP, SV%, etc.) for his career as well as this season?

Romano has legitimately been a top 10 reliever in his career thus far and he has still been very good this season even in a bit of a down year. It's like people only remember the last two weeks in which Romano has admittedly been pretty shaky while Hicks has been rolling. We shouldn't be ignoring the other 200+ games of their careers though.

Romano has really been fine for the past two weeks too. He had a massive 2 inning scoreless appearance in extras last weekend against the Red Sox with the Manfred runner on in both the 10th and 11th, which effectively won them the game.

The whining makes no sense.
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Re: GT: Blue Jays @ Rays - Sept 22 - Sept 24 

Post#689 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:34 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
moreso past 2 months

Wasn't the case until yesterday.

nope

Hicks last 7 weeks 0.91 whip vs romano's 1.27

hicks last 8 weeks .95 whip vs 1.27

Hicks also in 11 more games

You're using WHIP? What, is this 1996 lol
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Re: GT: Blue Jays @ Rays - Sept 22 - Sept 24 

Post#690 » by WuTang_OG » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:36 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:Wasn't the case until yesterday.

nope

Hicks last 7 weeks 0.91 whip vs romano's 1.27

hicks last 8 weeks .95 whip vs 1.27

Hicks also in 11 more games

You're using WHIP? What, is this 1996 lol


just giving u the facts for the past 2 months on who's been the better reliever
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Re: GT: Blue Jays @ Rays - Sept 22 - Sept 24 

Post#691 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:37 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
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WuTang_OG wrote:nope

Hicks last 7 weeks 0.91 whip vs romano's 1.27

hicks last 8 weeks .95 whip vs 1.27

Hicks also in 11 more games

You're using WHIP? What, is this 1996 lol


just giving u the facts for the past 2 months on who's been the better reliever

You're giving me their WHIPs over a 2 month period, there's no doubt about that.
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Re: GT: Blue Jays @ Rays - Sept 22 - Sept 24 

Post#692 » by Raps in 4 » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:39 pm

The Trop is Vladdy's house now. Is anyone scared of playing this trash team in their oversized tent anymore? Should be an easy 2-game sweep for us.
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Re: GT: Blue Jays @ Rays - Sept 22 - Sept 24 

Post#693 » by WuTang_OG » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:40 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
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Randle McMurphy wrote:You're using WHIP? What, is this 1996 lol


just giving u the facts for the past 2 months on who's been the better reliever

You're giving me their WHIPs over a 2 month period, there's no doubt about that.


yup

also lower bb/9, era
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Re: GT: Blue Jays @ Rays - Sept 22 - Sept 24 

Post#694 » by JN » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:43 pm

Fangraphs now has us at 95% chance of getting in after updating Today's win... this is before any Seattle or Texas loss.
We might be at 98% at the end of the day.
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Re: GT: Blue Jays @ Rays - Sept 22 - Sept 24 

Post#695 » by jaymeister15 » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:45 pm

pingpongrac wrote:What am I reading in this thread? Romano is just an above average pitcher? Hicks makes people feel more comfortable despite Romano posting better numbers across the board (K/BB ratio, FIP, ERA+, WHIP, SV%, etc.) for his career as well as this season?

Romano has legitimately been a top 10 reliever in his career thus far and he has still been very good this season even in a bit of a down year. It's like people only remember the past few weeks in which Romano has admittedly been pretty shaky while Hicks has been rolling. We shouldn't be ignoring the other 200+ games of their careers though.


Yep, this board is exhausting sometimes. Jays just had the biggest series win of the season and somehow the conversation is about a non existent problem with Romano. I think Hicks has been great for them, but so has Romano——despite how a couple people on here “feel” when he comes in, while ignoring stats—and hicks hasn’t been put in nearly as many tight spots, where his control issues could show up (for example, the random 2 out walk today isn’t as big of a deal when they are up 4 vs all the 9th inning or extra inning games Romano has come in up 1/2 or tied and got them through)
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Re: GT: Blue Jays @ Rays - Sept 22 - Sept 24 

Post#696 » by Mehar » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:47 pm

Hicks has not given up a run over a month (August 25th). Romano has had a few shaky outings since that time, with his tendency at times to allow Runners on Base with hard contact and Walks when he has difficulty locating pitches. People are talking about Romano being a better pitcher for his career, and since 2020- but I am focused on the here and now. Romano has been solid this year, but outside his shaky first appearance on August 1st, Hicks has been a better pitcher than Romano numbers wise.
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Re: GT: Blue Jays @ Rays - Sept 22 - Sept 24 

Post#697 » by WuTang_OG » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:49 pm

All I can say is Vladdy's slicer dingers are a sight to see
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Re: GT: Blue Jays @ Rays - Sept 22 - Sept 24 

Post#698 » by Raps in 4 » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:50 pm

Lmao Astros
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Re: GT: Blue Jays @ Rays - Sept 22 - Sept 24 

Post#699 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:50 pm

Royals sweep. Almost makes up for 2015.
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Re: GT: Blue Jays @ Rays - Sept 22 - Sept 24 

Post#700 » by JN » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:51 pm

McCarthur closes it for the Royals. 13 straight innings now without allowing a run.
Looks like Houston and Seattle will both be swept!

We could be clinching the playoffs perhaps on Thursday against the Yanks, making our series against the Rays meaningless.

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