'Melo Situation (new topics will be locked)

[Staruk]

For the record. I did not expect LeBron James to come to Miami. The only thing I knew is that we had a chance. All I hoped for was Bosh. There will be a whole bunch of factors for Carmelo. Carmelo can go to the Knicks. The Nuggets can offer him the most money. He can also go to the Nets. The landscape of the NBA can change in a New York minute. I don't understand this New York bravado. New York is a wonderful city, but it is not the city for me, and for all players. Miami is not for everyone, but its suitable for me. Why don't Knick fans learn some humility.

Humility? Dude come on Heat fans (and suddenly there are a ton of them) have followed the 3 queens in being some of the most arrogant people there is. See I can generalize too right? Not right either right? Or is it not right if its any other teams fans but right if were talking about Knick fans?

As far as Knick fans jumping on the Carmelo train? Let's take a look at the checklist:

1. Said hed love to come back east and play. - Check

2. His wife said that hed be thrilled to be a Knick. - Check

3. Two of his closest friends in the game have talked about playing with the Knicks - Check.

4. One of them is already on the Knicks (a big deal when talking "how about the Nets" as apparently playing with friends was THE reason for Lebron going to Miami). - Check.

6. The Knicks have clearly left themselves in position to sign another max FA. - Check

7. Walsh has confirmed that it wasn't just about 2010 and that its always been about getting at least 2 max FA's - Check.

8. The Knicks also have contracts that can be shed easily to open up capspace for a 3rd max FA (thanks to having all their projected long term contracts belonging to talented young players). - Check

9. Carmelo would be larger than life in NY (just like Lebron would have) and ESPECIALLY after being jilted by Lebron - Check.

Sure Carmelo can end up doing anything but its really funny that some of the most vocal guys on the Nugget board about belittling the Knicks and sounding the "rallying cry" about doing whatever you can to keep Carmelo are Heat fans....who then when questioned about motives say "oh we don't care about Melo going to NY (the same conference) and potentially forming a Big 3" we are just Nugget fans?

Dude...come on. Who are you trying to fool? You guys don't want Melo in NY because it would potentially offer up a threat to the "8 guaranteed championshis" and gloaters rights.

Maybe I'm a bad Knick fan (I'm a die hard though) but we should STFU, there was a similar level of bravado with the LBJ thing and were left looking like f'ng fools. We are in a good spot to continue improving the roster...what ever happens, happens.

[Thats_Amare]

1. Said hed love to come back east and play. - Check

2. His wife said that hed be thrilled to be a Knick. - Check

3. Two of his closest friends in the game have talked about playing with the Knicks - Check.

4. One of them is already on the Knicks (a big deal when talking "how about the Nets" as apparently playing with friends was THE reason for Lebron going to Miami). - Check.

6. The Knicks have clearly left themselves in position to sign another max FA. - Check

7. Walsh has confirmed that it wasn't just about 2010 and that its always been about getting at least 2 max FA's - Check.

8. The Knicks also have contracts that can be shed easily to open up capspace for a 3rd max FA (thanks to having all their projected long term contracts belonging to talented young players). - Check

9. Carmelo would be larger than life in NY (just like Lebron would have) and ESPECIALLY after being jilted by Lebron - Check.

Sure Carmelo can end up doing anything but its really funny that some of the most vocal guys on the Nugget board about belittling the Knicks and sounding the "rallying cry" about doing whatever you can to keep Carmelo are Heat fans....who then when questioned about motives say "oh we don't care about Melo going to NY (the same conference) and potentially forming a Big 3" we are just Nugget fans?

Dude...come on. Who are you trying to fool? You guys don't want Melo in NY because it would potentially offer up a threat to the "8 guaranteed championshis" and gloaters rights.

Moo for the win.

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[moocow007]

For the record. I did not expect LeBron James to come to Miami. The only thing I knew is that we had a chance. All I hoped for was Bosh. There will be a whole bunch of factors for Carmelo. Carmelo can go to the Knicks. The Nuggets can offer him the most money. He can also go to the Nets. The landscape of the NBA can change in a New York minute. I don't understand this New York bravado. New York is a wonderful city, but it is not the city for me, and for all players. Miami is not for everyone, but its suitable for me. Why don't Knick fans learn some humility.

Humility? Dude come on Heat fans (and suddenly there are a ton of them) have followed the 3 queens in being some of the most arrogant people there is. See I can generalize too right? Not right either right? Or is it not right if its any other teams fans but right if were talking about Knick fans?

As far as Knick fans jumping on the Car melo train? Let's take a look at the checklist:

1. Said hed love to come back east and play. - Check

2. His wife said that hed be thrilled to be a Knick. - Check

3. Two of his closest friends in the game have talked about playing with the Knicks - Check.

4. One of them is already on the Knicks (a big deal when talking "how about the Nets" as apparently playing with friends was THE reason for Lebron going to Miami). - Check.

6. The Knicks have clearly left themselves in position to sign another max FA. - Check

7. Walsh has confirmed that it wasn't just about 2010 and that its always been about getting at least 2 max FA's - Check.

8. The Knicks also have contracts that can be shed easily to open up capspace for a 3rd max FA (thanks to having all their projected long term contracts belonging to talented young players). - Check

9. Carmelo would be larger than life in NY (just like Lebron would have) and ESPECIALLY after being jilted by Lebron - Check.

Sure Carmelo can end up doing anything but its really funny that some of the most vocal guys on the Nugget board about belittling the Knicks and sounding the "rallying cry" about doing whatever you can to keep Carmelo are Heat fans....who then when questioned about motives say "oh we don't care about Melo going to NY (the same conference) and potentially forming a Big 3" we are just Nugget fans?

Dude...come on. Who are you trying to fool? You guys don't want Melo in NY because it would potentially offer up a threat to the "8 guaranteed championshis" and gloaters rights.

Maybe I'm a bad Knick fan (I'm a die hard though) but we should STFU, there was a similar level of bravado with the LBJ thing and were left looking like f'ng fools. We are in a good spot to continue improving the roster...what ever happens, happens.

Yes. Knick fans should absolutely STFU (not necessary regardless of the signs). I was actually hesitant and posting this at all (and do apologize to Nugget fans) but had to (for some Heat fans hypocrisy in this matter).

[HeatGuyInChicago]

Why are Knick fans attacking me. Don't hate me, blame Knicks management for not have a Championship contending team. Imagine if you guys had Brandon Jennings instead of Jordan Hill. All I did was point our that Carmelo to the Knicks is not a given. I even said that New York is wonderful city. I never said anything about the Heat. I'm on a Nuggets board, and I'm not here to gloat. I would welcome back the New York rivalry. Knick fans need to focus their attention on Chris Paul. My best friend is Knick fan, and he knows what's up. Chris Paul can create offense and get wide open shots for people. As much as Carmelo is gifted at putting the ball in the basket. He does not create shots for other people. Carmelo would shoot 50% with Paul running the point.

[realfung]

How can he play for the Nuggs if he is planning to leave.
It would be interesting to see him play in Nuggs uniform and I think the NBA player situation got worst since James' stupid decision.

Now, they are hurting the NBA.

[idajazz]

Doesn't matter one way or another, The Jazz are going to spank the Nugs and knock them out of the playoffs again regardless.

[The Rebel]

Should have known the Jazz trolls would have to start taking their shots now. We shall see what happens soon enough.

[DWadeno3]

Doesn't matter one way or another, The Jazz are going to spank the Nugs and knock them out of the playoffs again regardless.

Weren't the Nuggets in the conference finals two years ago and actually had a shot at beating the Lakers? If they're healthy, they're the best team in the west and you know it.

[JazzFan4Life18]

Doesn't matter one way or another, The Jazz are going to spank the Nugs and knock them out of the playoffs again regardless.

Weren't the Nuggets in the conference finals two years ago and actually had a shot at beating the Lakers? If they're healthy, they're the best team in the west and you know it.

Just an FYI, the Jazz were far more injured than the Nuggets were in that series.

[eathb_au]

The Jazz had Dantley coaching who coincidently is a Jazz great.

So there was no doubt we got screwed to the bone by the refs.

[celticsfan34]

even though im a celtics fan i love watching the nuggets their entertaining and have really good players. I'd hope melo would stay the nuggets are a top 3 team in the west with karl coaching i think with him leaving it really took the air out of them. If i was melo id wait it out play this season with the nuggets and see what happens. he has till next summer to sign that extension

[Nutty Nats Fan]

Doesn't matter one way or another, The Jazz are going to spank the Nugs and knock them out of the playoffs again regardless.

Weren't the Nuggets in the conference finals two years ago and actually had a shot at beating the Lakers? If they're healthy, they're the best team in the west and you know it.

Yeah they did, but whenever AC came in to games, LAL would take control of the games. Guy is a horrible PG and GK was also playing him at SG. Don't know if I'd say Denver is the best in the west, but if everyone is healthy (last year) and this year, they are easily the 2nd seed.

[almost famous]

Why is Melo leaving? Because he's constantly surrounded by mediocre players, on minimum contract, paying significant minutes in the playoffs.

[Powder Blue]

This is directed at realgm Nugget fans...

Do you guys think this could all blow away if the nuggets start off hot? They always say winning solves everything. Melo's got to give the front office a shot to get talent for kmart and/or JR at the deadline before he bails on denver.

Obviously the situation isn't as bad as the media makes it out to be but with him not speaking out against all the trade talk its obvious he's entertaining the thought of leaving. I hope this plays out the same way all the Kobe drama did in LA a few years back. Front office is really gonna have to roll the dice though.

[The Rebel]

I am actually fine with melo leaving, and I personally think the writing is on the wall. While he could be doing this for the attention, I think it is more then that. I think he wants the attention that helping turn around a franchise in a major market will bring him, he has always been jealous of the attention guys like Lebron and wade have gotten while he was ignored.

With the right package coming back I would trade him today.

[almost famous]

I agree. I think we've gone as far as we could with Melo, and I'd personally like to see us be a more defensive team.

[Futureisnow]

Knick fans need to focus their attention on Chris Paul. .

I read something like that said alot on here and I honestly don't understand what you guys mean. Does that mean that by focusing our attention on Paul our front office will do the same? Or does it mean that we shouldn't even talk/focus about a guy like Melo playing in NY because you don't think it will happen?

I think it's entirely reasonable to "focus" on Melo and Paul given the wedding toast and Melo's ties to NY (his wife, family, etc). If you're worried about Knicks fans getting let down then don't; almost everyone on that board knows that after the whole Lebron fiasco there are no guarentees with anything.

It's the offseason and basketball is still a few months away. No harm in talking about pretty much anything that's somewhat realistic.

[alphad0gz]

1) Denver will not be receiving any awesome offers. Since just about everybody (including the Maverick Maverick owner) has acknowledged Melo will sign in NY even should he be traded somewhere else, it is extremely doubtful the overwhelming offers will roll in. His value lies in whatever a temporary hired gun is worth for a chance at a deep run. Forget multiple 1st rounders and multiple players with star potential. Nope, uh-uh. Not meant to be a flame, just an analysis of the info floating around.

2) The Jazz fans ought to zip it. Deron Williams is up the same time Paul is. How would you like it if he started making overtures about being part of a big three in NY or Orlando? Get spanked in the playoffs a couple more years and you may find out...

[The Rebel]

1) Denver will not be receiving any awesome offers. Since just about everybody (including the Maverick Maverick owner) has acknowledged Melo will sign in NY even should he be traded somewhere else, it is extremely doubtful the overwhelming offers will roll in. His value lies in whatever a temporary hired gun is worth for a chance at a deep run. Forget multiple 1st rounders and multiple players with star potential. Nope, uh-uh. Not meant to be a flame, just an analysis of the info floating around.

You mean that article from tuesday, written before the news came out that Melo would infact sign with other teams? Also can you explain the Webber to Kings trade, or the Wallace to atlanta trade, since you believe nobody will give up value for a rental. Fact is the Bullets got a 6 time all star, and the Hawks gave up a good PF, a DPOY at center, and filler. Both are not bad and would trump a Gallinari/ Curry/ junk offer any day of the week. Hell I would take prospects that truly had the chance to be as good of players as those guys were, long before I would touch anything on the Knicks.

2) The Jazz fans ought to zip it. Deron Williams is up the same time Paul is. How would you like it if he started making overtures about being part of a big three in NY or Orlando? Get spanked in the playoffs a couple more years and you may find out...

they would probably like it almost as much as New York fans are going to like it when Melo is traded elsewhere.

[alphad0gz]

All the chatter from Melo and his circle says NY. I've never heard one word from those same people about Melo going anywhere else. I DO recalling reading that Cuban was certain he was going to end up in NY, though, and that's why the Mavs weren't going to seriously pursue him. You don't think its likely that these other "anonymous league sources" are in fact coming from Denver in order to increase bidding? Good thing you don't buy and sell for a living.....

And BTW, as much as I like CA, it won't break my heart if he goes someplace else. I really like the young guys we have. I just don't think he ends up anywhere but NY by 7/11.