'Melo Situation (new topics will be locked)

eathb_au · Post #166 » by **eathb_au** » Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:30 am

I think Al will add another dimension to the team's offense.

I say good luck to teams that want to double Melo with Harrington sitting at the 3pt line. Even better is that it takes away bigger bodies away from the paint so that it makes it easier for Melo/CB to get FTs or layups.

But yes our frontcourt will be small again. I would've signed Kwame Brown over Shelden Williams but oh well.

Our biggest asset in our WCF run was that our bench was damn good. Harrington is an upgrade over LK and now we have a 9 man rotation which should help in the long run. Sucks that the FO traded Hunter and a first for the TE last season though... I believed that Hunter + 1st could've been used to get a proper big (not Malik Allen) and not overplay KMart and Bird.

almost famous · Post #167 » by **almost famous** » Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:53 am

Dude, not that it has much to do with my point, but I said we improved our front court depth. I didn't say we found the answer. He's another body who has talent and can play the position, which improves our depth.

pickaxe · Post #168 » by **pickaxe** » Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:59 pm

Yeah Al is definitely a quality addition by all means. The only other depth that is really needed are a couple of giants who when on the court do not give up leads. They do not have to be offensively perfect.....but they have to be solid defensively so as to eat up minutes when and where it is needed.

This team with Melo does not lack for talent - it's just when the front line is thin it drains the overall output of what this team is capable of. Getting just enough time to grab that second wind for the starters is all we're talking about.

PetrieUnderstudy · Post #169 » by **PetrieUnderstudy** » Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:25 pm

I cannot tell you what every Nuggets fan wants, but what I want for Melo in a perfect world is

A young big with real potential to be a 20 and 10 with good defense.

A young SG/SF, that can be a solid all around type guy.

A couple of extra picks, one with the chance to be a high lotto pick.

I am sure the Nuggets would like to take back less money then they send out, but I think that may be at the end of the list.

Overall the Nuggets are slated to have less then $30 million in guaranteed salary next year, and that could turn into less then $20 million. Without any big name free agents, I don't see them as being desperate for expiring contracts, but they are not going to take back a bad deal in a Melo trade.[/quote]

First off I come in peace as a Kings fan. With what you want in return for Melo I can see the Nuggets managements thinking the same way and that's why Nets, Twolves & Kings mentioned.

Nets have Lopez & Favors for your big request (not sure if they'd be willing to part with Lopez, maybe a Terrence Williams for young versatile SG/SF and they could offer maybe 2 unprotected 1st's.

TWolves have Love & Beasley, Wesley Johnson, two 1st's.

Kings could offer Thompson or Landry, Casspi, & two 1st's.

All 3 can offer cap space with their proposals. With that said, what deal would you take? I'd think Nets won't trade Lopez. Favors & Williams? Love & Johnson? Landry & Casspi?

the_warden · Post #170 » by **the_warden** » Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:44 pm

PetrieUnderstudy wrote:
Nets have Lopez & Favors for your big request (not sure if they'd be willing to part with Lopez, maybe a Terrence Williams for young versatile SG/SF and they could offer maybe 2 unprotected 1st's.

TWolves have Love & Beasley, Wesley Johnson, two 1st's.

Kings could offer Thompson or Landry, Casspi, & two 1st's.

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DaFan334 · Post #171 » by **DaFan334** » Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:19 pm

Melo might be in a little trouble after posting on his twitter account a 5k reward for anyone who slaps the **** out of kat stacks.

http://www.celebritytwits.com/show/561/carmeloanthony
http://yfrog.com/jph8stj

Post #172 » by **corona** » Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:21 am

that type of stuff almost makes me happy he's forcing his way out.

show melo/kmart/jr the door and give me some young guys with character so we don't have to deal with fights and sulking and dui's and late night partying and all that crap.

melo mvp 15 · Post #173 » by **melo mvp 15** » Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:02 pm

This article is pretty good... I think it actually summarizes the Melo situation pretty well...

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=17202

pickaxe · Post #174 » by **pickaxe** » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:27 pm

Uh apparently that's not the end of it......read Kat Stacks' twitter....

milehigh · Post #175 » by **milehigh** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:30 pm

corona wrote:that type of stuff almost makes me happy he's forcing his way out.

show melo/kmart/jr the door and give me some young guys with character so we don't have to deal with fights and sulking and dui's and late night partying and all that crap.

Exactly it would be nice to have people that actually want to be here as well. This team is going to look a lot different after the 2011 summer. Interesting time to be a Nugget fan.

KnickRider · Post #176 » by **KnickRider** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:54 pm

milehighman wrote:
corona wrote:that type of stuff almost makes me happy he's forcing his way out.

show melo/kmart/jr the door and give me some young guys with character so we don't have to deal with fights and sulking and dui's and late night partying and all that crap.

Exactly it would be nice to have people that actually want to be here as well. This team is going to look a lot different after the 2011 summer. Interesting time to be a Nugget fan.

I wouldnt bash melo like that. You cant completely blame him after watching the show lebron bosh and wade put on. After watching their example he does have some legit excuses. Cant say anything for JR and Kmart.

milehigh · Post #177 » by **milehigh** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:22 pm

KnickRider wrote:
milehighman wrote:
corona wrote:that type of stuff almost makes me happy he's forcing his way out.

show melo/kmart/jr the door and give me some young guys with character so we don't have to deal with fights and sulking and dui's and late night partying and all that crap.

Exactly it would be nice to have people that actually want to be here as well. This team is going to look a lot different after the 2011 summer. Interesting time to be a Nugget fan.

I wouldnt bash melo like that. You cant completely blame him after watching the show lebron bosh and wade put on. After watching their example he does have some legit excuses. Cant say anything for JR and Kmart.

I appreciate what Melo has done for the franchise in his 7 years here and I have never bashed Melo. I have defended him in times when many wouldn't. Since you are a Knick fan I'm sure it wasn't too long ago that you were bashing him. I just want players that want to be here, end of story.

KnickRider · Post #178 » by **KnickRider** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:27 pm

I appreciate what Melo has done for the franchise in his 7 years here and I have never bashed Melo. I have defended him in times when many wouldn't. Since you are a Knick fan I'm sure it wasn't too long ago that you were bashing him. I just want players that want to be here, end of story.[/quote]

i feel you on that part. thats why i wasnt mad when we didnt get lebron and could welcome amare with open arms. and i will never forget sitting at the martini bar in NC with a bunch of my friends during the FIGHT. ill also never forget him bringing a chip the cuse either. either way it goes i just hope this doesnt end up as messed up as the Lebron fiasco

Unt0uchabl3 · Post #179 » by **Unt0uchabl3** » Thu Sep 2, 2010 8:51 pm

I hope melo stay with you guys, i would hate to see him leave to go to new york. I would like to see denver vs miami finals instead of the lakers. Hope you guys can beat the lakers and keep melo. goodluck denver

pickaxe · Post #180 » by **pickaxe** » Thu Sep 2, 2010 9:02 pm

Well, one thing NY is going to want to see is exactly where are they now with the pieces they have already. When Boston came together they already had Pierce working there for a while and then a couple of stars and numerous role players came on in. You may want to gauge your strength first anyway.

LeBron and Bosh going into Miami.....DWade's been there for a while. Can't really think of a marquee guy that hung out in NY for a while except now you got Amare....to get to that perfected team it's going to take some building.

KnickRider · Post #181 » by **KnickRider** » Thu Sep 2, 2010 10:56 pm

meloivynene wrote:Well, one thing NY is going to want to see is exactly where are they now with the pieces they have already. When Boston came together they already had Pierce working there for a while and then a couple of stars and numerous role players came on in. You may want to gauge your strength first anyway.

LeBron and Bosh going into Miami.....DWade's been there for a while. Can't really think of a marquee guy that hung out in NY for a while except now you got Amare....to get to that perfected team it's going to take some building.

I am looking forward to see Galo and Randolph play to be very honest, in particular next to Amare. Felton has always been a PG that I like and somebody I think will look very good under Mike. Knicks fans in general are actually very happy with where we are and what we have right now. But when it comes to Melo if you got a chance at a guy like that you pull the trigger and make it happen.

twoolfork1 · Post #182 » by **twoolfork1** » Fri Sep 3, 2010 7:00 pm

The thing I don't understand about this whole situation and Nuggets fans scoffing at everyone's trade ideas is how long are you guys willing to hold onto Melo given he doesn't sign an extension? There is a report today saying NJ Nets could wait for free agency to get Melo but is Denver really willing to just hold onto him for the whole year knowing he's going to leave for free agency? I was wondering if anyone knew how long he has to sign an extension? Can he do it at any point during the regular season or does it have to be before the trade deadline or what?

Post #183 » by **The Rebel** » Fri Sep 3, 2010 11:13 pm

twoolfork1 wrote:The thing I don't understand about this whole situation and Nuggets fans scoffing at everyone's trade ideas is how long are you guys willing to hold onto Melo given he doesn't sign an extension? There is a report today saying NJ Nets could wait for free agency to get Melo but is Denver really willing to just hold onto him for the whole year knowing he's going to leave for free agency? I was wondering if anyone knew how long he has to sign an extension? Can he do it at any point during the regular season or does it have to be before the trade deadline or what?

The Nets can wait all they want, fact is that 5 years is a long time to wait for a free agent. In other words I think New Jersey is trying to play hardball with the Nuggets, and I don't think anybody outside of New York believes that Melo will be traded with an extension soon then later.

As for willing to hold him through the year, why not? If the best player teams think they can give back to the Nuggets is some project that was just drafted with a lotto pick, then the Nuggets have no reason to do the deal. They can take their chances this year and worst case scenerio they can sign and trade Melo and get a couple of pick, and a TPE. Which is just as good long term as taking back a bad contract, or a current project. and helps them sell tickets and compete this year, while leaving them in a position to rebuild next year.

almost famous · Post #184 » by **almost famous** » Fri Sep 3, 2010 11:35 pm

I agree. And if Melo became a free agent, NJ has no chance of signing him. He will likely go to Houston or NY.

twoolfork1 · Post #185 » by **twoolfork1** » Fri Sep 3, 2010 11:47 pm

The Rebel wrote:
twoolfork1 wrote:The thing I don't understand about this whole situation and Nuggets fans scoffing at everyone's trade ideas is how long are you guys willing to hold onto Melo given he doesn't sign an extension? There is a report today saying NJ Nets could wait for free agency to get Melo but is Denver really willing to just hold onto him for the whole year knowing he's going to leave for free agency? I was wondering if anyone knew how long he has to sign an extension? Can he do it at any point during the regular season or does it have to be before the trade deadline or what?

The Nets can wait all they want, fact is that 5 years is a long time to wait for a free agent. In other words I think New Jersey is trying to play hardball with the Nuggets, and I don't think anybody outside of New York believes that Melo will be traded with an extension soon then later.

As for willing to hold him through the year, why not? If the best player teams think they can give back to the Nuggets is some project that was just drafted with a lotto pick, then the Nuggets have no reason to do the deal. They can take their chances this year and worst case scenerio they can sign and trade Melo and get a couple of pick, and a TPE. Which is just as good long term as taking back a bad contract, or a current project. and helps them sell tickets and compete this year, while leaving them in a position to rebuild next year.

No. That is not the worst case scenario. The worst case scenario is what we saw happen to Cleavland with Lebron James which is Melo leaves and signs anywhere else as an unrestricted free agent. Then you look back in the offseason and say dang we could use some extra picks and some good young players when instead we lost Melo and got nothing in return