Nikola Jokic MVPx2, FMVP, and.. still counting!

Post #21 » by **NuggetsWY** » Wed Mar 7, 2018 1:12 pm

Powder Blue wrote:Uh oh now NugWY and Sky are fighting, wheels falling off on the board too lol

We've disagreed before - but that's only because everyone has the right to be wrong once in a while. :nod:

skywalker33 · Post #22 » by **skywalker33** » Wed Mar 7, 2018 4:52 pm

Powder Blue wrote:Uh oh now NugWY and Sky are fighting, wheels falling off on the board too lol

Like THAT's neverr happened :lol:

skywalker33 · Post #23 » by **skywalker33** » Wed Mar 7, 2018 4:56 pm

NuggetsWY wrote:
Powder Blue wrote:Uh oh now NugWY and Sky are fighting, wheels falling off on the board too lol

We've disagreed before - but that's only because everyone has the right to be wrong once in a while.

And I suppose everyone = Skywalker33, right ??? I'm ONLY here to keep you on the straight-and-narrow WY, you know that right ??? 8-)

Acountant_Z · Post #24 » by **Acountant_Z** » Wed Mar 7, 2018 5:03 pm

Just trade Jokic, you can likely get a nice return.

This group is not going anywhere.

Post #25 » by **NuggetsWY** » Wed Mar 7, 2018 5:10 pm

skywalker33 wrote:
NuggetsWY wrote:
Powder Blue wrote:Uh oh now NugWY and Sky are fighting, wheels falling off on the board too lol

We've disagreed before - but that's only because everyone has the right to be wrong once in a while.

And I suppose everyone = Skywalker33, right ??? I'm ONLY here to keep you on the straight-and-narrow WY, you know that right ???

Sometimes we never know who's right until much later. And anyone who believes I am always right is a fool - and I'm not a fool! 8-)

Disagree does not equal dislike or disrespect - we're cool.

Post #26 » by **NuggetsWY** » Wed Mar 7, 2018 5:12 pm

Acountant_Z wrote:Just trade Jokic, you can likely get a nice return.

This group is not going anywhere.

If you are going to say something like that, you should use the green font to let everyone know you are being sarcastic. If you don't everyone will think you are a fool because nobody in the NBA would expect Jokic to be traded. If it happened, they'd be lining up. There are very few players at his age that have been absolutely untradeable - he's one.

skywalker33 · Post #27 » by **skywalker33** » Wed Mar 7, 2018 5:15 pm

NuggetsWY wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:
NuggetsWY wrote: We've disagreed before - but that's only because everyone has the right to be wrong once in a while.

And I suppose everyone = Skywalker33, right ??? I'm ONLY here to keep you on the straight-and-narrow WY, you know that right ???

Sometimes we never know who's right until much later. And anyone who believes I am always right is a fool - and I'm not a fool! Disagree does not equal dislike or disrespect - we're cool.

You KNOW I'm just messing with ya Dude !! It's in my job description !

Post #28 » by **Yuri Vaultin** » Wed Mar 7, 2018 5:30 pm

Acountant_Z wrote:Just trade Jokic, you can likely get a nice return.

This group is not going anywhere.

What a ridiculous post.

Powder Blue · Post #29 » by **Powder Blue** » Wed Mar 7, 2018 5:36 pm

NuggetsWY wrote:
Acountant_Z wrote:Just trade Jokic, you can likely get a nice return.

This group is not going anywhere.

If you are going to say something like that, you should use the green font to let everyone know you are being sarcastic. If you don't everyone will think you are a fool because nobody in the NBA would expect Jokic to be traded. If it happened, they'd be lining up. There are very few players at his age that have been absolutely untradeable - he's one.

I don't think he was being sarcastic, think it's a resurrection of the "trade Jokic" talk we heard mid-season

Mickey8 · Post #30 » by **Mickey8** » Wed Mar 7, 2018 5:58 pm

Why would you keep him , if he's not performing up to the standard with Millsap being back?? Jokic and Millsap philosophies of how this team should play basketball are not in the same line. If Denver decide to keep both men ,they are going nowhere . You could sell Jokic while his price is high, you could get lots of great pices for him. It would be great for the both parties.

skywalker33 · Post #31 » by **skywalker33** » Wed Mar 7, 2018 6:41 pm

Mickey8 wrote:Why would you keep him , if he's not performing up to the standard with Millsap being back?? Jokic and Millsap philosophies of how this team should play basketball are not in the same line. If Denver decide to keep both men ,they are going nowhere . You could sell Jokic while his price is high, you could get lots of great pices for him. It would be great for the both parties.

Well, you don't add much more than lip-prints on Jokic's butt-cheeks but you're still here :banghead:

Jokic IS the leader of this core going forward, Millsap was brought in to support him. Anyone who thinks he's leaving Denver is delusional !!! As I've already stated, their chemistry didn't happen in the 1st few games of this season, will probably take a few to regain it again. You are the Euro fan I was talking about, it gets old seeing your broken record pucker-posts. You are the Nuggets forum version of LaVar Ball !

Mickey8 · Post #32 » by **Mickey8** » Wed Mar 7, 2018 6:56 pm

He's not supporting team, he brought an Alpha mentality that is killing team chemistry right now, which is translated to bad score record. I would like Malone to bench Jokic from now on , Malone could prove or not , if this team can be successful without Jokic being the focal point of the Denver's offense. That would make easier on Denver's FO what to do with Jokic in the off season. Its a very big decision for them that is looming after this season is over.

Mickey8 · Post #33 » by **Mickey8** » Wed Mar 7, 2018 7:00 pm

skywalker33 wrote:
Mickey8 wrote:Why would you keep him , if he's not performing up to the standard with Millsap being back?? Jokic and Millsap philosophies of how this team should play basketball are not in the same line. If Denver decide to keep both men ,they are going nowhere . You could sell Jokic while his price is high, you could get lots of great pices for him. It would be great for the both parties.

Well, you don't add much more than lip-prints on Jokic's butt-cheeks but you're still here

Jokic IS the leader of this core going forward, Millsap was brought in to support him. Anyone who thinks he's leaving Denver is delusional !!! As I've already stated, their chemistry didn't happen in the 1st few games of this season, will probably take a few to regain it again. You are the Euro fan I was talking about, it gets old seeing your broken record pucker-posts. You are the Nuggets forum version of LaVar Ball !

You as an American fan should be able to recognize that team is playing horrible since Millsap is back into line up. Every basketball fan who follows the Nuggets are aware of that.

skywalker33 · Post #34 » by **skywalker33** » Wed Mar 7, 2018 7:01 pm

Mickey8 wrote:He's not supporting team, he brought an Alpha mentality that is killing team chemistry right now, which is translated to bad score record. I would like Malone to bench Jokic from now on , Malone could prove or not , if this team can be successful without Jokic being the focal point of the Denver's offense. That would make easier on Denver's FO what to do with Jokic in the off season. Its a very big decision for them that is looming after this season is over.

Millsap has NEVER had an Alpha mentality, that's one of the stupidest statements I've ever heard of him. He's not a vocal leader, doesn't demand more PT, the ball when he's on the court and is known as a great teammate...just shows what a low BBIQ you have !!!

STFU LaVar Jokic !!

Mickey8 · Post #35 » by **Mickey8** » Wed Mar 7, 2018 7:06 pm

You can dis me as much you want , but Millsap dumb iso's are not working in Denver, he's still undersized PF who is aging rapidly , I don't buy his positive impact on this group of players. He negatively affected this team, from the first game he played in his come back, the facts are fact.

Post #36 » by **NuggetsWY** » Wed Mar 7, 2018 7:18 pm

Four consecutive all-star games on a team built as "team" with no true superstar. Millsap is the ultimate team player with solid play on both ends. He can spot-up. He can pass. Bitter people will want to blame Millsap for the problems - except he wasn't here last year and this team was basically in the same spot then as it is now.

Jokic has improved, so has Harris, as well as Murray. The only major change was swapping Gallinari for Millsap. Most would say Millsap is better, especially since until this year, he's not been overly injury prone.

LukaDoncic1 · Post #37 » by **LukaDoncic1** » Wed Mar 7, 2018 7:31 pm

Unlock my Luka Doncic thread, NuggetsWY...please

skywalker33 · Post #38 » by **skywalker33** » Wed Mar 7, 2018 7:45 pm

LukaDoncic1 wrote:Unlock my Luka Doncic thread, NuggetsWY...please

NOOOOOOOO we have NO Shot at getting him, enjoy your thread on the TnT board !!!! Why are you so stubborn that the 2018 Draft Prospect won't work to discuss ???

Post #39 » by **THE J0KER** » Wed Mar 7, 2018 7:50 pm

Mickey8 wrote:team is playing horrible since Millsap is back into line up

Yes, but looking all these matches game by game you will realize that Millsap alone has nothing with this collapse. It is all coach Malone mistake which uses Millsap comeback as an excuse to destroy the offensive system which worked so well in February (including February of 2017).

If you want to see what it means a negative impact of an incompetent coach on a young player, just look at the Nikola Jokic and Gary Harris 4th quarter stats this season. We talked on this forum many times about all these embarrassing Jokic substitutes during the final quarter, or how Harris team role is suddenly downgraded (mostly in favor of Barton) once when the final quarter starts. And these young guys are not the robots, negative influence and damage to their self-confidence in 4th quarters are obvious, and thanks to coach Malone malicious strategy they are not the same players in a final quarter like they used to be in the rest of the match. You can see how they dropped in points compared to other quarters, how their shooting percentages go bad, and without freedom and under negative pressure, Jokic assists going down and turnovers rise notably.

Now in March, we have a case of the downgraded role of Jokic and Murray, and instant effect on their whole game production (not on just particular period) is obvious. In March Jokic is 22-11-9 (ts%68%), and Murray is 17-4-4 (ts%66%), but so far in March Jokic is 7-7-8 (ts%41%) and Murray is 10-2-3 (ts%51%). Should we blame players for this young core meltdown or coach Malone who initiate without any reason by unnecessary changes which have a sense only in his mind?

Richard Miller · Post #40 » by **Richard Miller** » Wed Mar 7, 2018 8:01 pm

But when Denver does things Malone’s preferred way they are a lesser team for it; they are not built for the way he wants to coach, and his way makes them worse at the only thing they’re great at. How long can that continue?

Time is running out for the players to bridge the gap with their coach.

https://www.denverstiffs.com/2018/3/7/17091694/trust-issues-in-the-mile-high-city-denver-nuggets-nikola-jokic-michael-malone