Galarraga loses perfect game-one of worst calls ever

[RalphWiggum]

Is there any way this can be reversed by MLB? Change the call and make it a perfect game?

Ya there is, nothing happened after the call to change the outcome of the game, act is if the 28th batter never got to the plate call the guy out and give the guy his perfect game. If Selig wants he can make a one time exception considering the circumstances, these things happen less than once every 5 years and to not give this kid at least a documented perfect game when it is so easy to do would be black mark on the game, there will be instant replay next year as a result, he'll never have to do it again. This isn't like changing a basket in the 3rd quarter where everything else after changes as a result, he was clearly out and thus the game should have ended right at that moment. He will never get to celebrate on the field or in the clubhouse with his teammates which is much a part of something like that as the notoriety at least put him in the books, it's the right thing to do and no law will be broken to do it.

[studcrackers]

http://baseballneedsreplay.ytmnd.com/

[Ong_dynasty]

Feel sorry for the dude and hope it gets overturned..
Funniest thing about the replay was the Indians batter was shocked when he was called safe..even he wanted to be out!

[l2RDO]

I agree that the MLB should change the stats and give the kid the perfect game. I actually looked up the boxscore to see if anything happened afterwards, and nothing did. If some other guys had gotten hits, or he had walked someone, I would say no to awarding him the perfect game, but he got the next batter out. It sucks because youre looking at setting a precedent, and everyone else is going to want games changed afterwards, but doesnt that already happen when teams play games "under protest?"

[magicfan4life05]

Alright I'm no baseball expert so I apologize if I sound ignorant...but here goes:

After watching the replay like 5 or 6 times, it seems to me that the runner touched home plate BEFORE the ball was firmly caught into the mitt. So it sort of looked to me the runner was "safe" or at least a VERY touch call to make in real life time.

Here me out !

When I saw replay the first 2 times, I thought the runner was out b/c the ball got into the mitt before he touched the base. But then after I saw it more, it seems like the ball (this is very hard to describe) was actually in the "area" of the mitt and about to touch it...BUT NOT TOUCHED IT

So if you see it a couple of times, when you see the ball in the area of the grip before it touches, it seems the ball actually hit the mitt, which means the runner is out. But if you look closely, it seems to me the ball ACTUALLY HITS THE MITT right after the runner touches the base.

But it looks like the ball hit the mitt before he reached the base (only b/c the ball was in the area of the mitt and about to hit it) but in fact the ball had not made contact with the mitt until after the runner was safe.

Does anyone understand what I meant ??


(I'm probably 100% wrong anyway but just wanted to throw it out there)

[Da Schwab]

Here are the two top stories on ESPN.com right now:

MLB deciding whether to review call

NEW YORK -- Major League Baseball was still deciding Thursday morning whether to review the umpire's blown call that cost Detroit Tigers pitcher Armando Galarraga a perfect game.

Commissioner Bud Selig has the power to reverse umpire Jim Joyce's missed call that came with two outs in the ninth inning Wednesday night in Detroit. Joyce ruled Cleveland's Jason Donald safe, then admitted he got it wrong.

Selig would likely consult with his top advisers before making such a ruling. St. Louis Cardinals manager Tony La Russa says the call should be overturned.

Denkinger supports replay in baseball

Don Denkinger knows a thing or two about what Jim Joyce is going through.

Denkinger, whose questionable call at first base in Game 6 of the 1985 World Series helped the Kansas City Royals come back to beat the St. Louis Cardinals, told the New York Post that he supports the use of instant replay in baseball to reverse blown calls such as the one Joyce made Wednesday night, costing Detroit Tigers pitcher Armando Galarraga a perfect game.

"There are so many areas you can use instant replay," Denkinger said, according to the Post. "Maybe instant replay can clean things up. If a play is missed, it can be corrected. I didn't feel that way in '85, but I feel that way now."

Something may happen in the next few days that could really turn baseball into NFL Lite.

[Pharmcat]

Alright I'm no baseball expert so I apologize if I sound ignorant...but here goes:

After watching the replay like 5 or 6 times, it seems to me that the runner touched home plate BEFORE the ball was firmly caught into the mitt. So it sort of looked to me the runner was "safe" or at least a VERY touch call to make in real life time.

Here me out !

When I saw replay the first 2 times, I thought the runner was out b/c the ball got into the mitt before he touched the base. But then after I saw it more, it seems like the ball (this is very hard to describe) was actually in the "area" of the mitt and about to touch it...BUT NOT TOUCHED IT

So if you see it a couple of times, when you see the ball in the area of the grip before it touches, it seems the ball actually hit the mitt, which means the runner is out. But if you look closely, it seems to me the ball ACTUALLY HITS THE MITT right after the runner touches the base.

But it looks like the ball hit the mitt before he reached the base (only b/c the ball was in the area of the mitt and about to hit it) but in fact the ball had not made contact with the mitt until after the runner was safe.

Does anyone understand what I meant ??


(I'm probably 100% wrong anyway but just wanted to throw it out there)

the play was at first base

[mattbulls]

Alright I'm no baseball expert so I apologize if I sound ignorant...but here goes:

After watching the replay like 5 or 6 times, it seems to me that the runner touched home plate BEFORE the ball was firmly caught into the mitt. So it sort of looked to me the runner was "safe" or at least a VERY touch call to make in real life time.

Here me out !

When I saw replay the first 2 times, I thought the runner was out b/c the ball got into the mitt before he touched the base. But then after I saw it more, it seems like the ball (this is very hard to describe) was actually in the "area" of the mitt and about to touch it...BUT NOT TOUCHED IT

So if you see it a couple of times, when you see the ball in the area of the grip before it touches, it seems the ball actually hit the mitt, which means the runner is out. But if you look closely, it seems to me the ball ACTUALLY HITS THE MITT right after the runner touches the base.

But it looks like the ball hit the mitt before he reached the base (only b/c the ball was in the area of the mitt and about to hit it) but in fact the ball had not made contact with the mitt until after the runner was safe.

Does anyone understand what I meant ??


(I'm probably 100% wrong anyway but just wanted to throw it out there)

Once it's in the glove it's viewed as the first moment it's caught. It doesn't have to hit the back, it just has to be covered.

[Jersey Generals]

Alright I'm no baseball expert so I apologize if I sound ignorant...but here goes:

After watching the replay like 5 or 6 times, it seems to me that the runner touched home plate BEFORE the ball was firmly caught into the mitt. So it sort of looked to me the runner was "safe" or at least a VERY touch call to make in real life time.

Here me out !

When I saw replay the first 2 times, I thought the runner was out b/c the ball got into the mitt before he touched the base. But then after I saw it more, it seems like the ball (this is very hard to describe) was actually in the "area" of the mitt and about to touch it...BUT NOT TOUCHED IT

So if you see it a couple of times, when you see the ball in the area of the grip before it touches, it seems the ball actually hit the mitt, which means the runner is out. But if you look closely, it seems to me the ball ACTUALLY HITS THE MITT right after the runner touches the base.

But it looks like the ball hit the mitt before he reached the base (only b/c the ball was in the area of the mitt and about to hit it) but in fact the ball had not made contact with the mitt until after the runner was safe.

Does anyone understand what I meant ??


(I'm probably 100% wrong anyway but just wanted to throw it out there)

It's called a snow-cone catch, and as long as the player isn't bobbling it or juggling it, its considered a catch.

[Posey H8er]

In my view Miguel Cabrera took a risk going after the ball considering that it's angle was directed closer to second baseman Carlos Guillen. Not saying that Joyce isn't to blame but I think it would have been an easy out had it been played out that way.

[trwi7]

And of course Selig is a **** clown and doesn't overturn the call.

Now not only does he rob Galarraga of history, it also has the potential to make Joyce's life a living hell.

[jumanji]

And of course Selig is a **** clown and doesn't overturn the call.

Now not only does he rob Galarraga of history, it also has the potential to make Joyce's life a living hell.

One word answer to why he cant overturn the call. Gambling. Next time he'll have to oveturn the outcome of a game.

[VinnyTheMick]

He can overturn the ruling then pull a Supreme Court & say "this decision cannot be used as precedent in future cases" (Gore v Bush, 2000)

[craig01]

As brutal as the bad call was, not overturning it is the right call.

[5DOM]

i was hoping they overturned it.
it was the final out.

[Pharmcat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc2xs7PO ... r_embedded

[craig01]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc2xs7POefg&feature=player_embedded

One of the positives out of all of this is how gracious almost everyone handled the blunder.

The Tigers, their fans, Leyland, Galarraga, and Joyce turned an obvious black eye into a moment of compassion and forgiveness.

Baseball is still great despite it's flaws.