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Post#226 » by BIGGIEsmalls 23 » Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:47 am

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BIGGIEsmalls 23 wrote:^^^^^Shouldn't the Bears get most of the credit for causing those things to happen :dontknow: .


No credit, the Bears were awful and played an awful game. The only credit I give is to Culter, but it's not really much credit because he was insane for playing with what seemed to be near life threatening injuries. He has no brains and too much heart, and I think the Bears were stupid for letting him continue with some of the severe punishment he took at a few points. Briggs was pretty freakin' solid tonight, and Urlacher made some good plays but can't give him much credit since it didn't look like he had to sweat much to make those plays, he just kind of stood around there and had and easy day because the Lions didn't challenge him.

Well, I'm too sleepy to debate this, but you're being disingenuous by saying the Bears are awful.

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Re: 2012 NFL Week Seven Game Thread 

Post#227 » by TSE » Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:49 am

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They were awful, I'm super drunk and can't believe I can type coherently and I still edited my post before I saw this with some slightly changed language and edits, but yes the Bears were AWFUL and absolutely should have lost this game, they did less to deserve to win than we did to deserve to lose, ABSOLUTELY for sure.
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Re: 2012 NFL Week Seven Game Thread 

Post#228 » by Susan » Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:07 am

Well, the Bears are 5-1 and 1st in the division. It took the Lions 59 minutes and 30 seconds to score a touchdown.
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Re: 2012 NFL Week Seven Game Thread 

Post#229 » by CBS7 » Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:35 am

Bears D is phenomenal. Offense is too inconsistent, but if they can hit their stride late in the year, look out.

If anything, Credit the bears D, but don't credit the O. The Bears did not play awful as a whole. Wish they got the shutout, though.

This looks like the best Bears D since 2005 or early 2006 when Mike Brown (and the rest of the D) was healthy.

Allowing a league low 13 points per game.

Panthers at home and Titans on the road coming up, looks like Bears might get off to a 7-1 start. The 2nd half of their schedule is brutal, though. Minnesota twice, SF, Houston, GB, Seattle, Arizona, and Detroit on the road.

NFC North looks like it might send 3 teams to the playoffs.
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Re: 2012 NFL Week Seven Game Thread 

Post#230 » by TSE » Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:47 am

Susan wrote:Well, the Bears are 5-1 and 1st in the division. It took the Lions 59 minutes and 30 seconds to score a touchdown.


Is this a rebuttal to my comments though is what I want to know? First of all, we don't play well unless there is 5 minutes left, that's our chosen style apparently. And the first 4 wins had nothing to do with the Lions, so if you did well in those wins then fine, but the Bears lost this game and it was handed to them on a silver platter by a completely inept Lions team that was lead by a terrible QB, a terrible HC, a terrible OC, and even worse, a terrible GM that brought this circus to town.

We are NOT a serious football team that knows how to play this game! And the Bears deserve no credit for a win this week! Despite Briggs and Tillman and Urlacher playing a decent game like they should, why shoudn't they, they are good football players.
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Re: 2012 NFL Week Seven Game Thread 

Post#231 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:46 am

Glad the DET/CHI game (where I would've taken CHI -6.5) wasn't included in the contest lines, that was the biggest douche backdoor cover of the year by the Lions
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Re: 2012 NFL Week Seven Game Thread 

Post#232 » by trwi7 » Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:48 am

Susan wrote:Well, the Bears are 5-1 and 1st in the division. It took the Lions 59 minutes and 30 seconds to score a touchdown.


The Bears have beaten the Colts, Jaguars, Rams, Cowboys and Lions. Combined record, 12-19. Those teams are also 19th, 23rd, 24th, 26th and 32nd in points per game and 26th, 24th, 22nd, 14th and 10th in points per game allowed.

Let's see what happens when they have to play the 49ers, Texans and hell, even the Seahawks and Vikings.

Fact is the Bears couldn't have gotten an easier schedule to start the year. Congrats to them for taking advantage of it. We'll see if it lasts.
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Re: 2012 NFL Week Seven Game Thread 

Post#233 » by BIGGIEsmalls 23 » Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:18 pm

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Susan wrote:Well, the Bears are 5-1 and 1st in the division. It took the Lions 59 minutes and 30 seconds to score a touchdown.


The Bears have beaten the Colts, Jaguars, Rams, Cowboys and Lions. Combined record, 12-19. Those teams are also 19th, 23rd, 24th, 26th and 32nd in points per game and 26th, 24th, 22nd, 14th and 10th in points per game allowed.

I hate when this argument is used against winning teams. It seems to always happen when the Bears are on top :wink: .

Using your logic, those same teams would have a combined record of 17-14 if the Bears would have lost those games, so basically your argument doesn't hold water. Regarding the PPG rankings, the Bears have a ton to do with the fact that those teams are ranked where they are.

Every single team that you mentioned above have quality wins over other quality NFL teams.

-The Lions have beaten the Rams & Eagles.

-The Cowboys have beaten the Giants, Bucs, & Panthers.

-The Rams have beaten the Redskins, Seahawks, & Cardinals.

-The Colts have beaten the Packers, Vikings, & Browns.

-The Jaguars have beaten the Colts and have lost in OT to the Vikings & Raiders.
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Re: 2012 NFL Week Seven Game Thread 

Post#234 » by Icness » Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:01 pm

I hate when this argument is used against winning teams. It seems to always happen when the Bears are on top .

Using your logic, those same teams would have a combined record of 17-14 if the Bears would have lost those games, so basically your argument doesn't hold water.


Agree 100% with this statement. And it usually comes from fans of teams that have an ugly loss to a crappy team. It's a sour grapes position. Houston has to deal with it all the time but it's not their fault their opponents haven't been very good this year.
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Re: 2012 NFL Week Seven Game Thread 

Post#235 » by BIGGIEsmalls 23 » Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:09 pm

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I hate when this argument is used against winning teams. It seems to always happen when the Bears are on top .

Using your logic, those same teams would have a combined record of 17-14 if the Bears would have lost those games, so basically your argument doesn't hold water.


Agree 100% with this statement. And it usually comes from fans of teams that have an ugly loss to a crappy team. It's a sour grapes position. Houston has to deal with it all the time but it's not their fault their opponents haven't been very good this year.

I truly believe in the saying "Any given Sunday" & that the NFL is "A game of inches".

Anyone can beat anyone in the NFL. That's why I absolutely LOVE this game.
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Re: 2012 NFL Week Seven Game Thread 

Post#236 » by Higga » Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:17 pm

You play who you play, you don't control your schedule. The NFL is very week to week. The Bears are doing what they're supposed to, dominating inferior opposition. I believe all their wins have been by double digits except last night's, which was until 30 seconds left.
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Re: 2012 NFL Week Seven Game Thread 

Post#237 » by High 5 » Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:06 pm

The Falcons have had probably an easier schedule, but they haven't looked as good as the Bears. Dominating NFL teams is a difficult task no matter how weak they seem to be.
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Re: 2012 NFL Week Seven Game Thread 

Post#238 » by Maritimer » Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:19 pm

I don't understand why the Lions refuse to lean on Leshoure. He was running well against a really tough run D. Instead, the moment he takes a first down hand off for a yard or two, they go immediately away from him and telegraph pass on 2nd and long, then 3rd and long. It's especially inexcusable at the goal line. It was painful to watch Bell fumble the dive attempt from 2 yards out, and I'm not even a Lions fan. It's pretty damning on the coaching staff if you can't have your team in a position to get 2 yards in three tries (especially when you're ignoring the one guy on the roster built to do it).
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Re: 2012 NFL Week Seven Game Thread 

Post#239 » by TSE » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:06 pm

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Well our problems are for more complicated than not relying on Leshoure enough, there's really no easy to answer that. However we did have a completely ineffective play by running the ball on a 2nd and 1 when generally that's a great opportunity to throw a deep pass. There's not really a more statistically pass friendly down and distance situation to pass the ball than 2nd and 1, and we ran it and it didn't work and we missed an opportunity for a big play there. Although that's just one of the things that didn't work out yesterday amongst a gazillion things that didn't work.
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Post#240 » by Maritimer » Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:14 pm

Your point is well taken. My point is simply that many problems offensively could be solved by having a more balanced attack. They lead the league in passing attempts, and are 2nd in terms of percentage of snaps that are passing plays (over 66%; New Orleans is first with an ungodly 70%). Usually the argument for an imbalance like this is the lack of a viable running game (i.e. Green Bay last year), but Leshoure has shown he's good enough to carry a reasonably heavy load. If teams actually felt that they had to put men in the box, things would open up for the screen game, play action, etc, etc (I'm stating the obvious, I know).
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Re: 2012 NFL Week Seven Game Thread 

Post#241 » by Icness » Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:16 pm

The injury aftermath:

Fred Davis torn Achilles, out for year. Replaced by Chris Cooley, who might last 3 quarters before getting hurt again.

MJD out 2-4 weeks with foot injury that may or may not be a Lisfranc. If it is he's out for season.

Blaine Gabbert torn labrum in left shoulder. I can't see him playing vs. GB but long-term he can play with it. Chad Henne gets his last shot to prove he can start in the NFL. Good luck with that.

Nate Burleson broken leg, out for year. He has played his last snap in Detroit even though he was more effective than most people realize.

Charles Woodson broken collarbone, out 4-6 weeks. No chance he is back earlier than 4 weeks and the way he plays he's stupid to rush it. I've broken my clavicle, it's not one you can hurry back from and the tendons around it need a week or two to get back into form after the 4-6 weeks.

Polamalu and Marcus Gilbert both ruled out for Week 8 already by Mike Tomlin.
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Re: 2012 NFL Week Seven Game Thread 

Post#242 » by TSE » Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:36 am

Maritimer wrote:Your point is well taken. My point is simply that many problems offensively could be solved by having a more balanced attack. They lead the league in passing attempts, and are 2nd in terms of percentage of snaps that are passing plays (over 66%; New Orleans is first with an ungodly 70%). Usually the argument for an imbalance like this is the lack of a viable running game (i.e. Green Bay last year), but Leshoure has shown he's good enough to carry a reasonably heavy load. If teams actually felt that they had to put men in the box, things would open up for the screen game, play action, etc, etc (I'm stating the obvious, I know).


Good points, but balance isn't winning football, balance is just a connotation that implies fairness to people that need some kind of feeling of equity to make them happy for some reason. The name of the game is run the plays that give you the best chance to win, and that's a highly complicated question to answer that can't in any situation be solved by saying a team should be more balanced in general.
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Re: 2012 NFL Week Seven Game Thread 

Post#243 » by studcrackers » Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:48 am

Icness wrote:The injury aftermath:

Fred Davis torn Achilles, out for year. Replaced by Chris Cooley, who might last 3 quarters before getting hurt again.

MJD out 2-4 weeks with foot injury that may or may not be a Lisfranc. If it is he's out for season.

Blaine Gabbert torn labrum in left shoulder. I can't see him playing vs. GB but long-term he can play with it. Chad Henne gets his last shot to prove he can start in the NFL. Good luck with that.

Nate Burleson broken leg, out for year. He has played his last snap in Detroit even though he was more effective than most people realize.

Charles Woodson broken collarbone, out 4-6 weeks. No chance he is back earlier than 4 weeks and the way he plays he's stupid to rush it. I've broken my clavicle, it's not one you can hurry back from and the tendons around it need a week or two to get back into form after the 4-6 weeks.

Polamalu and Marcus Gilbert both ruled out for Week 8 already by Mike Tomlin.



and the worse injury of the day is sean lee being done for the year. he was our best player this year

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Re: 2012 NFL Week Seven Game Thread 

Post#244 » by Icness » Wed Oct 24, 2012 1:19 am

I just saw that Lee injury, real bad news. He had 3rd best charting of ILBs in league.
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Re: 2012 NFL Week Seven Game Thread 

Post#245 » by NeedsMoreCheese » Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:34 am

studcrackers wrote:

and the worse injury of the day is sean lee being done for the year. he was our best player this year

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