Predict who wins MVP

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Who will win MVP?

Jalen Hurts
4
11%
Lamar Jackson
10
29%
Patrick Mahomes
3
9%
C.J. Stroud
0
No votes
Brock Purdy
5
14%
Christian McCaffrey
4
11%
Tyreek Hill
4
11%
Dak Prescott
2
6%
Josh Allen
0
No votes
Other
3
9%
 
Total votes: 35

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Re: Predict who wins MVP 

Post#581 » by wembambamya » Thu Jan 4, 2024 4:00 pm

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wembambamya wrote:
Mariner wrote:Cowboy fans?
Could you name them all? It must be a long list for you to say cowboy fans.


Man it is not that difficult to read couple pages, I cant hold your hand thru life like this lol

That’s what I thought.
Can’t back up your claim.
Oh and lol back


I am not even trying to be rude but are you (Please Use More Appropriate Word)? your posts generally sound like they are written by someone on the spectrum lol
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Re: Predict who wins MVP 

Post#582 » by wembambamya » Thu Jan 4, 2024 4:01 pm

guess we cant say tard, ok realgm ahah
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Re: Predict who wins MVP 

Post#583 » by Mariner » Thu Jan 4, 2024 4:03 pm

wembambamya wrote:
Mariner wrote:
wembambamya wrote:
Man it is not that difficult to read couple pages, I cant hold your hand thru life like this lol

That’s what I thought.
Can’t back up your claim.
Oh and lol back


I am not even trying to be rude but are you (Please Use More Appropriate Word)? your posts generally sound like they are written by someone on the spectrum lol

Who knows what your intent was but your generalizing an entire fan base based on one comment?
Respectfully asking if you can backup your claim?
Shouldn’t take long.
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Re: Predict who wins MVP 

Post#584 » by El Turco » Thu Jan 4, 2024 4:06 pm

wembambamya wrote:
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wembambamya wrote:
And Purdy is more productive than Dak and beat him head to head. Only reason Lamar wins over Purdy is because Lamar's defense got 4 interceptions on him.

Sorry even in a world where Lamar and Ravens dont exist, Dak wouldnt win.

Why do you think Purdy is more productive than Dak? Dak has more TDs and less INTs than Purdy. And Purdy, similar to Lamar, has a much better defense than Dak does.

I'm not even trying to argue that Dak *should be* the MVP either...it's just that he seems to be your focal point of debate so here we are.


Purdy has thrown for more yards, better completion percentage, better yards per attempt, better passer rating, some of his advanced metrics are historic. Not that there is a big gap between them, but when you apply the team success and head to head factors that Lamar got to Purdy's statistical superiority, Dak has zero case over Purdy.

I dont know how you fast you forgot that Purdy was on a crash course to MVP and Dak was pretty much written off before the Ravens game. Dak hasnt done anything special since then to take over Purdy.


Mic drop :lol:


I'd argue main reason Purdy is not going to be MVP is the schedule. If that Ravens game happened in week 3 and off people's minds, Purdy would win it pretty easily considering both teams have the first seed and Purdy is the statistically best quarterback. Oh well, he will have plenty more chances, got bigger fish to fry.
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Re: Predict who wins MVP 

Post#585 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Jan 4, 2024 4:42 pm

Purdy has thrown for 43 more yards than Dak :lol:

That's like 1 deep pass to Deebo

Obviously Dak's extra TD and less INTs trump that.
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Re: Predict who wins MVP 

Post#586 » by El Turco » Thu Jan 4, 2024 4:57 pm

According to the passer rating, no, it does not.

Needed 110 less attempts to throw for more yards.
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Re: Predict who wins MVP 

Post#587 » by Mr B » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:19 pm

Jaydubb wrote:The logic in here is a cowboy fan will say something or post a question about dak and then somebody else (non cowboy fan) responds. That cowboy fan will then ask the non cowboy fan “why are you talking about dak..?”

it’s weird..

Well obviously the cowboys fan would talk about Dak considering he’s a Cowboys fan. Seems weird though that non-Cowboys fans seem so obsessed with him though. I mean if you don’t want to talk about Dak, then don’t talk about him.

I think homeboy is actually a Cowboys fan though. I mean he’s talked way more about the Cowboys than that joke of a team he claims to be a fan of.
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Re: Predict who wins MVP 

Post#588 » by Mr B » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:21 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:
wembambamya wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:Lamar is going to win it and Dak had zero chance. That said Dak beats Lamar in every statistical category and Dak is the more productive player. The only reason Lamar is winning it is because his team will finish with 1 or 2 more Ws. And that's because Lamar has a superior defense to Dak.


And Purdy is more productive than Dak and beat him head to head. Only reason Lamar wins over Purdy is because Lamar's defense got 4 interceptions on him.

Sorry even in a world where Lamar and Ravens dont exist, Dak wouldnt win.

Why do you think Purdy is more productive than Dak? Dak has more TDs and less INTs than Purdy. And Purdy, similar to Lamar, has a much better defense than Dak does.

I'm not even trying to argue that Dak *should be* the MVP either...it's just that he seems to be your focal point of debate so here we are.

He’s a closet Cowboys fan.
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Re: Predict who wins MVP 

Post#589 » by Mr B » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:23 pm

wembambamya wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:
wembambamya wrote:
And Purdy is more productive than Dak and beat him head to head. Only reason Lamar wins over Purdy is because Lamar's defense got 4 interceptions on him.

Sorry even in a world where Lamar and Ravens dont exist, Dak wouldnt win.

Why do you think Purdy is more productive than Dak? Dak has more TDs and less INTs than Purdy. And Purdy, similar to Lamar, has a much better defense than Dak does.

I'm not even trying to argue that Dak *should be* the MVP either...it's just that he seems to be your focal point of debate so here we are.


Purdy has thrown for more yards, better completion percentage, better yards per attempt, better passer rating, some of his advanced metrics are historic. Not that there is a big gap between them, but when you apply the team success and head to head factors that Lamar got to Purdy's statistical superiority, Dak has zero case over Purdy.

I dont know how you fast you forgot that Purdy was on a crash course to MVP and Dak was pretty much written off before the Ravens game. Dak hasnt done anything special since then to take over Purdy.

If you’re saying that voting odds don’t matter how would you know that Purdy was on a “crash course” to win the MVP? Or are you just being a hypocrite?
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Re: Predict who wins MVP 

Post#590 » by Mr B » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:25 pm

Mariner wrote:
wembambamya wrote:
Mariner wrote:Cowboy fans?
Could you name them all? It must be a long list for you to say cowboy fans.


Man it is not that difficult to read couple pages, I cant hold your hand thru life like this lol

That’s what I thought.
Can’t back up your claim.
Oh and lol back

He’s been doing that since he started posting. Like the **** he was saying about the average age of the NFL fanbase. Dude has no clue.
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Re: Predict who wins MVP 

Post#591 » by Mr B » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:26 pm

wembambamya wrote:
Mariner wrote:
wembambamya wrote:
Man it is not that difficult to read couple pages, I cant hold your hand thru life like this lol

That’s what I thought.
Can’t back up your claim.
Oh and lol back


I am not even trying to be rude but are you (Please Use More Appropriate Word)? your posts generally sound like they are written by someone on the spectrum lol

Making fun of autism now? Wow
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Re: Predict who wins MVP 

Post#592 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:26 pm

El Turco wrote:According to the passer rating, no, it does not.

Needed 110 less attempts to throw for more yards.


It is the total touchdowns that matter and not how many passes it took them to get the touchdown.

Dak has put up more points than Purdy...that is the only production that counts.
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Re: Predict who wins MVP 

Post#593 » by El Turco » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:43 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:
El Turco wrote:According to the passer rating, no, it does not.

Needed 110 less attempts to throw for more yards.


It is the total touchdowns that matter and not how many passes it took them to get the touchdown.

Dak has put up more points than Purdy...that is the only production that counts.


that's beyond dumb considering throwing touchdowns is as much about play calls in the redzone as it is about quarterback's skill, you can have a running back get 74 yards only then have your quarterback throw a 1 yard fade for a touchdown. Even with all that Dak managed to put up one extra touchdown against a worse strength of schedule, if he had played Ravens he would be up there with Josh Allen in turnover department

Prescott produces less with more chances, less per attempt, and statistically cant compete with Purdy. Pretty much everyone of these combo stats have Purdy leading Dak and rest of the league, heck difference between Purdy and Dak is larger than difference between Dak and Minshew with some of them :lol:
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Re: Predict who wins MVP 

Post#594 » by Mariner » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:43 pm

Mr B wrote:
Mariner wrote:
wembambamya wrote:
Man it is not that difficult to read couple pages, I cant hold your hand thru life like this lol

That’s what I thought.
Can’t back up your claim.
Oh and lol back

He’s been doing that since he started posting. Like the **** he was saying about the average age of the NFL fanbase. Dude has no clue.


He hears one thing from one poster then cites the entire fan base with a bunch of lols.
Ask him to back up his claim then he takes the time to respond he doesn’t have the time. When his response was longer then one one I wanted.
You can’t make this stuff up.
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Re: Predict who wins MVP 

Post#595 » by wembambamya » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:58 pm

Mr B wrote:
wembambamya wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:Why do you think Purdy is more productive than Dak? Dak has more TDs and less INTs than Purdy. And Purdy, similar to Lamar, has a much better defense than Dak does.

I'm not even trying to argue that Dak *should be* the MVP either...it's just that he seems to be your focal point of debate so here we are.


Purdy has thrown for more yards, better completion percentage, better yards per attempt, better passer rating, some of his advanced metrics are historic. Not that there is a big gap between them, but when you apply the team success and head to head factors that Lamar got to Purdy's statistical superiority, Dak has zero case over Purdy.

I dont know how you fast you forgot that Purdy was on a crash course to MVP and Dak was pretty much written off before the Ravens game. Dak hasnt done anything special since then to take over Purdy.

If you’re saying that voting odds don’t matter how would you know that Purdy was on a “crash course” to win the MVP? Or are you just being a hypocrite?


Yeesh, wth is voting odds? there is betting odds, I feel like you dont even know half the terms you are trying to use. If you are saying betting odds, it is puts Purdy against rest of the field, not head to head with Dak, when Lamar wasnt in the picture and it was down to Purdy and Dak, Purdy was ahead by comfortable margin not only in odds but also in media. Purdy wont play another game, he doesnt have a chance to improve his candidacy, of course you would expect his odds to go down. Not to mention odds dont mean anything when the leader is at -20000, right now it is just sportsbooks taking gullible cowboy fans money lol
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Re: Predict who wins MVP 

Post#596 » by wembambamya » Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:59 pm

Mr B wrote:
Mariner wrote:
wembambamya wrote:
Man it is not that difficult to read couple pages, I cant hold your hand thru life like this lol

That’s what I thought.
Can’t back up your claim.
Oh and lol back

He’s been doing that since he started posting. Like the **** he was saying about the average age of the NFL fanbase. Dude has no clue.


are you denying that you said Dak still has "a very good chance"? going back to edit now ? :lol:
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Re: Predict who wins MVP 

Post#597 » by wembambamya » Thu Jan 4, 2024 6:03 pm

Mariner wrote:
Mr B wrote:
Mariner wrote:That’s what I thought.
Can’t back up your claim.
Oh and lol back

He’s been doing that since he started posting. Like the **** he was saying about the average age of the NFL fanbase. Dude has no clue.


He hears one thing from one poster then cites the entire fan base with a bunch of lols.
Ask him to back up his claim then he takes the time to respond he doesn’t have the time. When his response was longer then one one I wanted.
You can’t make this stuff up.


so dont you agree with that one poster lol?
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Re: Predict who wins MVP 

Post#598 » by wembambamya » Thu Jan 4, 2024 6:06 pm

El Turco wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:
El Turco wrote:According to the passer rating, no, it does not.

Needed 110 less attempts to throw for more yards.


It is the total touchdowns that matter and not how many passes it took them to get the touchdown.

Dak has put up more points than Purdy...that is the only production that counts.


that's beyond dumb considering throwing touchdown is as much about play calls in the redzone as it is about quarterback's skill, you can have a running back get 74 yards only then have your quarterback throw a 1 yard fade for a touchdown. Even with all that Dak managed to put up one extra touchdown against a worse strength of schedule, if he had played Ravens he would be up there with Josh Allen in turnover department

Prescott produces less with more chances, less per attempt, and statistically cant compete with Purdy. Pretty much everyone of these combo stats have Purdy leading Dak and rest of the league, heck difference between Purdy and Dak is larger than difference between Dak and Minshew with some of them :lol:


Yeah never seen anyone evaluate quarterbacks just by touchdowns, you would think in 2023 humans can have more nuanced discussion than "MOAR POINTS" lmao
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Re: Predict who wins MVP 

Post#599 » by wembambamya » Thu Jan 4, 2024 6:08 pm

https://twitter.com/search?q=dak%20mvp&src=typed_query

here you can find number of cowboys fans, last time I am holding your hand through life spectrum boy lol
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Re: Predict who wins MVP 

Post#600 » by wembambamya » Thu Jan 4, 2024 6:12 pm

Mr B wrote:Even though I don’t think he should win it I think there is still a very good chance that Dak wins it.


Here another favor for those on the spectrum and cant scroll back 3 pages ahah

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