2023 Draft Prospects

LAKESHOW · Post #241 » by **LAKESHOW** » Sat Oct 14, 2023 2:14 am

Cactus Jack wrote:
LAKESHOW wrote:Yo Cactus. Gigantic game this week in the Northwest. Oregon vs Washington. I wish I had a ticket, but probably the hottest ticket in town. I'm looking forward to watching

I'll be there!

Im taking your boys at home.

Post #242 » by **Cactus Jack** » Tue Oct 17, 2023 1:57 am

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Jaydubb · Post #243 » by **Jaydubb** » Tue Oct 17, 2023 1:03 pm

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Damn.. that kid was looking pretty good

Post #244 » by **DOT** » Tue Oct 17, 2023 1:05 pm

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That really sucks, and even more so cause the guy's good he's just inexperienced. So he's missing a lot of crucial development time. He's also gotten a minor injury in basically every game they played, so you gotta wonder if he's gonna be injury prone going forward

The bad news is, in all 3 of their wins this year, Minshew either started or played significant snaps in relief of AR. The good news is, Minshew was also crucial in engineering our 1-15 season where we lost the last 15 games (after beating the Colts lol) to get TLaw, so it's entirely possible the Colts lose enough to be in position to get Marvin Harrison Jr., which would just be a good story.

wco81 · Post #245 » by **wco81** » Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:59 pm

Didn't watch any Colts games but from the highlights, it seemed like he looked to run a lot.

Understandable because of his size and athleticism. But big QBs like Cam Newton got beat down, though he was in the league long enough to win the MVP.

They should be coaching him to throw the ball away or run out of bounds if he can. Or slide.

Otherwise, don't break the pocket.

Post #246 » by **Cactus Jack** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 6:31 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:.

Kwesi might have redeemed himself a little!

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Post #247 » by **Duke4life831** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 8:51 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:.

Kwesi might have redeemed himself a little!

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Meh, I think Addison was more of a pick that just landed in his lap. Everyone knew the Vikings were looking for WR and Addison was the last WR left after that WR run in the 1st.

I will give him more credit with the Mekhi Blackmon pick. He is starting to see more and more snaps and he has been looking pretty legit.

Blackmon, Roy, Ivan Pace, and we will see what we have in Hall. Id say all of those guys are looking like solid-good picks for day 3 (and UDFA). Definitely looking much better than his 2022 blunder of a draft.

GoRapstheoriginal · Post #248 » by **GoRapstheoriginal** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 11:47 pm

Still need Tyree Wilson to step up & unlock his hidden potential.

I am fervently hoping & praying it happens sooner rather than later.

wco81 · Post #249 » by **wco81** » Mon Nov 6, 2023 8:03 am

It’s not even half way through their rookie seasons.

But the trends are not good for Bryce while they’re way up for Stroud.

Bryce threw two pick 6s today. 24-39 for 173 yards.

Stroud, 5 TDS and 475 yards including game winner in closing seconds of game.

Bryce doesn’t have WRs, only Thelen, well past his prime.

But Stroud, I don’t recognize the Texans WRs except TE Dalton Schulz.

I haven’t watched Panthers or Texans so I don’t know their OLs.

We also can’t see which passes either QBs are making in tHe pocket and on time vs. making plays outside the pocket.

But wow, the #1 pick vs the #7 pick.

The other numerical difference, 5-10 vs. 6-3.

El Turco · Post #250 » by **El Turco** » Mon Nov 6, 2023 9:41 pm

Young can improve his accuracy and decision making, that's not the main problem. Big problem is he has an average arm and his frame is not built to play in NFL. Doesnt mean he cant be a servicable quarterback eventually but servicable is not what you are looking for with the first pick, especially when you gave up so much to get him.

Also he is unlucky that he was picked before a generational player and perhaps the best rookie quarterback ever. Unfair or not their careers will be compared rest of the way.

Post #251 » by **Cactus Jack** » Mon Nov 6, 2023 10:20 pm

I guess we're just loosely throwing around the word "generational" lol. Stroud is a good QB. The best that Ohio State has put out recently. Having said that, I still think Richardson has a higher ceiling & will be viewed as the better player in the long-run.

Young's biggest hurdle is his size. But people are writing him off way too soon.

Post #252 » by **Mr Swagtastic** » Fri Nov 10, 2023 1:05 am

Is Marvin Harrison Jr the best non QB in this draft? Heard a few shows say he's the best pure talent in the draft. If Chicago gets #1 & #2 overall they should take Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison Jr. I don't buy the Thursday Night Football panel saying they should move their second first round pick for more picks.

El Turco · Post #253 » by **El Turco** » Sun Nov 12, 2023 12:27 am

I dont think there is any doubt that Marv is a generational prospect and the best football player in this draft period. Doesnt really have any weaknesses, barring injuries he'll be in the class of Calvin Johnson, Julio etc.

For me only issue is position scarcity. Nothing like Harrison but you can find solid, productive receivers every round nowadays. So in terms of team building, for a team like Bears instead of going for the A+ receiver, grabbing B+ receivers later on and filling more holes in your team by trading your high picks might be more productive.

Although pairing Caleb Williams with MHJ certainly sounds irresistable.

RaoulDuke79 · Post #254 » by **RaoulDuke79** » Sun Nov 12, 2023 1:05 am

It won't/can't happen, but I wouldn't mind seeing a Stroud/Harrison Jr. duo on the Texans for years to come.

I know I'm a dreamer...but I'm not the only one!

Post #255 » by **Michael Jackson** » Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:33 pm

El Turco wrote:I dont think there is any doubt that Marv is a generational prospect and the best football player in this draft period. Doesnt really have any weaknesses, barring injuries he'll be in the class of Calvin Johnson, Julio etc.

For me only issue is position scarcity. Nothing like Harrison but you can find solid, productive receivers every round nowadays. So in terms of team building, for a team like Bears instead of going for the A+ receiver, grabbing B+ receivers later on and filling more holes in your team by trading your high picks might be more productive.

Although pairing Caleb Williams with MHJ certainly sounds irresistable.

Yeah if the Bears pull that off they still have Moore, Williams would have two great targets out there.

wco81 · Post #256 » by **wco81** » Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:28 pm

Is MHJ's father involved in his career?

Hasn't he had an interesting life after his NFL career?

El Turco · Post #257 » by **El Turco** » Tue Nov 14, 2023 9:26 pm

wco81 wrote:Is MHJ's father involved in his career?

Hasn't he had an interesting life after his NFL career?

why does that matter?

wco81 · Post #258 » by **wco81** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:25 am

Fathers of some high picks have inserted themselves into the process.

Caleb's father has already.

LAKESHOW · Post #259 » by **LAKESHOW** » Wed Dec 6, 2023 8:42 am

Here in SoCal those particular years, we had 3 top QBs from the area who dominated the HS football scene. Bryce Young from Mater Dei. Stroud from Rancho Cucamonga. And DJ Uiagalelei from Bosco. Throw in JT Daniels who played at Georgia.
And DJ was regarded by many as the top prospect. However from what I saw, it's lining up correctly. Stroud was always the most accurate and poised out of the 3, despite having lowered success vs the others

righterwriter · Post #260 » by **righterwriter** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 7:45 pm

How on earth did Bryce Young get picked in the first two rounds, let alone #1, and even worse had a team trade up a ransom to get him?

I've seen nothing good about him. Not his arm, not his legs, not his escapability, not his accuracy, not his clutch play. It's just been below average across the board.

I wonder if Carolina tries their hand at another QB this offseason so not to have another season ruined.