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Post#561 » by QB_Eagles » Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:44 am

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Mariner wrote:Will Grier was signed by the eagles. Wonder how long it will take them to realize he’s the backup.

They’re installing Kellen Moore’s offense. The question should be how long before they figure out Hurts doesn’t fit Kellen’s offense.
I don't get it....Nick Sirianni was a successful OC for Indy which was why he got our HC gig yet he is going to rely on someone who got his HC fired in SD hoping he get the HC gig for himself. Worst, he said some crappy things about is when he was in Dallas.

I would have hired. He should have re-hired the comeback beard who chose him as the OC, so it was about time to return the favor imo.

https://youtu.be/9qqj4MBW-o4?si=i3bDn3TkdDKl_q6q

Sirianni didn't call plays in Indy.

Brandon Staley got himself fired.

Saying crappy things about Dallas or saying the truth about Dallas?
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Re: Free Agency !!!! 

Post#562 » by Mr B » Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:18 pm

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Mr B wrote:
Mariner wrote:Will Grier was signed by the eagles. Wonder how long it will take them to realize he’s the backup.

They’re installing Kellen Moore’s offense. The question should be how long before they figure out Hurts doesn’t fit Kellen’s offense.
I don't get it....Nick Sirianni was a successful OC for Indy which was why he got our HC gig yet he is going to rely on someone who got his HC fired in SD hoping he get the HC gig for himself. Worst, he said some crappy things about is when he was in Dallas.

I would have hired. He should have re-hired the comeback beard who chose him as the OC, so it was about time to return the favor imo.

https://youtu.be/9qqj4MBW-o4?si=i3bDn3TkdDKl_q6q

Sirianni almost got himself fired last season for the way the offense was run. There was speculation that the only reason he got to keep his job was because he agreed to fire his assistants. Kellen Moore was brought in to fix the offense.

Kellen Moore does prefer pocket passers. You’ve seen what they did with Dak, they turned him from a runner into a pocket passer. Eagles fans can be sure that they will likely attempt the same thing with Hurts. Especially with how much they are paying him the last thing you want is Hurts risking major injury by running so much. I don’t know though that Hurts has the arm talent to be successful in Kellen’s system.
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Post#563 » by wco81 » Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:44 pm

I forget the figure but Hurts has taken hundreds of hits in the last two seasons.

So maybe they are looking to keep him in pocket, run less.
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Post#565 » by WentzerWuver » Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:13 am

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Mr B wrote:They’re installing Kellen Moore’s offense. The question should be how long before they figure out Hurts doesn’t fit Kellen’s offense.
I don't get it....Nick Sirianni was a successful OC for Indy which was why he got our HC gig yet he is going to rely on someone who got his HC fired in SD hoping he get the HC gig for himself. Worst, he said some crappy things about is when he was in Dallas.

I would have hired. He should have re-hired the comeback beard who chose him as the OC, so it was about time to return the favor imo.

https://youtu.be/9qqj4MBW-o4?si=i3bDn3TkdDKl_q6q

Sirianni almost got himself fired last season for the way the offense was run. There was speculation that the only reason he got to keep his job was because he agreed to fire his assistants. Kellen Moore was brought in to fix the offense.

Kellen Moore does prefer pocket passers. You’ve seen what they did with Dak, they turned him from a runner into a pocket passer. Eagles fans can be sure that they will likely attempt the same thing with Hurts. Especially with how much they are paying him the last thing you want is Hurts risking major injury by running so much. I don’t know though that Hurts has the arm talent to be successful in Kellen’s system.
No rational owner would fire his HC after he took them to the SB the season before. How many chances did he gave Pederson before he fired him and I don't need to remind you how many chances JJ gave Garrett like 10 seasons too long. One bad 2nd half of a season is NEVER a good reason for firing.

Like I stated before, he should have hired Frank as OC cause of their close chemistry working together and to return the favor for giving Sirianni a chance at OC over someone who got Staley fired. I bet McVay would rehire Staley as his OC over Moore all day long. If Moore call plays for Hurts, he will likely get Sirianni fired too. Is Moore too stubborn to adjust his scheming and plays to fit other QB since it had worked so well with Dak?

Frank understood this better than most OC as he managed to help an average joe like Foles to outplay the GOAT in the SB winning MVP! Can Moore do that or only with Dak? Oh wait....he didn't with so much talent n Big D and got canned womp womp womp...

https://www.colts.com/news/nick-sirianni-on-his-vision-for-the-colts-offense-a-constant-conversati-20379590

https://www.colts.com/news/peyton-manning-on-frank-reich-tireless-worker-grinder-20354753
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Re: Free Agency !!!! 

Post#566 » by WentzerWuver » Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:28 am

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Mr B wrote:They’re installing Kellen Moore’s offense. The question should be how long before they figure out Hurts doesn’t fit Kellen’s offense.
I don't get it....Nick Sirianni was a successful OC for Indy which was why he got our HC gig yet he is going to rely on someone who got his HC fired in SD hoping he get the HC gig for himself. Worst, he said some crappy things about is when he was in Dallas.

I would have hired. He should have re-hired the comeback beard who chose him as the OC, so it was about time to return the favor imo.

https://youtu.be/9qqj4MBW-o4?si=i3bDn3TkdDKl_q6q

Sirianni didn't call plays in Indy.

Brandon Staley got himself fired.

Saying crappy things about Dallas or saying the truth about Dallas?
Duh, only a fool would allow a first time OC to call plays for the Colts when he hasn't done so at any level before but he did help with refining the schemes while coordinating with the other coaches to make sure everyone was on the same page which is important to gain experience as an OC.

Chargers ended up in 4th place going 5-12 with your Moore as OC after ending up in 2nd place the season prior but according to you, Staley got himself fired for allowing Moore to call his own plays since he script those plays himself for Dak. Herbert seem more content when Staley was calling plays but if he had Travis temperament, he might chew him out on the sideline. Just cause his play calling works great for Dak doesnt mean it will work for every other QB.

And if I want to spew crappy things about the Cowboys, I will which is what Eagles fans generally do with a passion. So if you have a problem with that, then....

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Post#567 » by WentzerWuver » Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:35 am

wco81 wrote:I forget the figure but Hurts has taken hundreds of hits in the last two seasons.

So maybe they are looking to keep him in pocket, run less.
Hurts legs are his greatest strength, so he needs to take advantage of them when necessary. He does 600 lb squats which was why he is nearly unstoppable on QB sneaks.
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Re: Free Agency !!!! 

Post#568 » by Mr B » Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:15 am

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Mr B wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:I don't get it....Nick Sirianni was a successful OC for Indy which was why he got our HC gig yet he is going to rely on someone who got his HC fired in SD hoping he get the HC gig for himself. Worst, he said some crappy things about is when he was in Dallas.

I would have hired. He should have re-hired the comeback beard who chose him as the OC, so it was about time to return the favor imo.

https://youtu.be/9qqj4MBW-o4?si=i3bDn3TkdDKl_q6q

Sirianni almost got himself fired last season for the way the offense was run. There was speculation that the only reason he got to keep his job was because he agreed to fire his assistants. Kellen Moore was brought in to fix the offense.

Kellen Moore does prefer pocket passers. You’ve seen what they did with Dak, they turned him from a runner into a pocket passer. Eagles fans can be sure that they will likely attempt the same thing with Hurts. Especially with how much they are paying him the last thing you want is Hurts risking major injury by running so much. I don’t know though that Hurts has the arm talent to be successful in Kellen’s system.
No rational owner would fire his HC after he took them to the SB the season before. How many chances did he gave Pederson before he fired him and I don't need to remind you how many chances JJ gave Garrett like 10 seasons too long. One bad 2nd half of a season is NEVER a good reason for firing.

Like I stated before, he should have hired Frank as OC cause of their close chemistry working together and to return the favor for giving Sirianni a chance at OC over someone who got Staley fired. I bet McVay would rehire Staley as his OC over Moore all day long. If Moore call plays for Hurts, he will likely get Sirianni fired too. Is Moore too stubborn to adjust his scheming and plays to fit other QB since it had worked so well with Dak?

Frank understood this better than most OC as he managed to help an average joe like Foles to outplay the GOAT in the SB winning MVP! Can Moore do that or only with Dak? Oh wait....he didn't with so much talent n Big D and got canned womp womp womp...

https://www.colts.com/news/nick-sirianni-on-his-vision-for-the-colts-offense-a-constant-conversati-20379590

https://www.colts.com/news/peyton-manning-on-frank-reich-tireless-worker-grinder-20354753

Well Frank isn’t in Philly anymore and Kellen is. They didn’t bring him in just to sit on the sidelines. I would expect he’s going to have a pretty big roll in designing the offense and calling plays. He wasn’t great at adjustments when he was in Dallas so we will have to see if his time in LA taught him anything.
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Post#569 » by Mr B » Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:19 am

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wco81 wrote:I forget the figure but Hurts has taken hundreds of hits in the last two seasons.

So maybe they are looking to keep him in pocket, run less.
Hurts legs are his greatest strength, so he needs to take advantage of them when necessary. He does 600 lb squats which was why he is nearly unstoppable on QB sneaks.

If you’re expecting Hurts to run as much or more you might be in for a real disappointment this season. When you’re paying a guy that much the last thing you want him doing is running and putting his health at risk. You may not agree with it but they brought in Kellen Moore to help Hurts be more like Dak and transition into a pocket passer.
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Post#570 » by WentzerWuver » Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:10 am

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WentzerWuver wrote:
Mr B wrote:Sirianni almost got himself fired last season for the way the offense was run. There was speculation that the only reason he got to keep his job was because he agreed to fire his assistants. Kellen Moore was brought in to fix the offense.

Kellen Moore does prefer pocket passers. You’ve seen what they did with Dak, they turned him from a runner into a pocket passer. Eagles fans can be sure that they will likely attempt the same thing with Hurts. Especially with how much they are paying him the last thing you want is Hurts risking major injury by running so much. I don’t know though that Hurts has the arm talent to be successful in Kellen’s system.
No rational owner would fire his HC after he took them to the SB the season before. How many chances did he gave Pederson before he fired him and I don't need to remind you how many chances JJ gave Garrett like 10 seasons too long. One bad 2nd half of a season is NEVER a good reason for firing.

Like I stated before, he should have hired Frank as OC cause of their close chemistry working together and to return the favor for giving Sirianni a chance at OC over someone who got Staley fired. I bet McVay would rehire Staley as his OC over Moore all day long. If Moore call plays for Hurts, he will likely get Sirianni fired too. Is Moore too stubborn to adjust his scheming and plays to fit other QB since it had worked so well with Dak?

Frank understood this better than most OC as he managed to help an average joe like Foles to outplay the GOAT in the SB winning MVP! Can Moore do that or only with Dak? Oh wait....he didn't with so much talent n Big D and got canned womp womp womp...

https://www.colts.com/news/nick-sirianni-on-his-vision-for-the-colts-offense-a-constant-conversati-20379590

https://www.colts.com/news/peyton-manning-on-frank-reich-tireless-worker-grinder-20354753

Well Frank isn’t in Philly anymore and Kellen is. They didn’t bring him in just to sit on the sidelines. I would expect he’s going to have a pretty big roll in designing the offense and calling plays. He wasn’t great at adjustments when he was in Dallas so we will have to see if his time in LA taught him anything.
They bring him in to get Sirianni fired. Just ask Staley. I know you are a Moore lover but he cost your Cowboys many games when they are up but you blame MM when it was really his OC dialing pass after pass like there was no tomorrow. I would take MM play calling over Moore in an important game but if I was playing Madden, I take Moore cause he loves to do what we all would do, air it up all game long regardless of the situation!

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Post#571 » by Mr B » Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:07 pm

WentzerWuver wrote:
Mr B wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:No rational owner would fire his HC after he took them to the SB the season before. How many chances did he gave Pederson before he fired him and I don't need to remind you how many chances JJ gave Garrett like 10 seasons too long. One bad 2nd half of a season is NEVER a good reason for firing.

Like I stated before, he should have hired Frank as OC cause of their close chemistry working together and to return the favor for giving Sirianni a chance at OC over someone who got Staley fired. I bet McVay would rehire Staley as his OC over Moore all day long. If Moore call plays for Hurts, he will likely get Sirianni fired too. Is Moore too stubborn to adjust his scheming and plays to fit other QB since it had worked so well with Dak?

Frank understood this better than most OC as he managed to help an average joe like Foles to outplay the GOAT in the SB winning MVP! Can Moore do that or only with Dak? Oh wait....he didn't with so much talent n Big D and got canned womp womp womp...

https://www.colts.com/news/nick-sirianni-on-his-vision-for-the-colts-offense-a-constant-conversati-20379590

https://www.colts.com/news/peyton-manning-on-frank-reich-tireless-worker-grinder-20354753

Well Frank isn’t in Philly anymore and Kellen is. They didn’t bring him in just to sit on the sidelines. I would expect he’s going to have a pretty big roll in designing the offense and calling plays. He wasn’t great at adjustments when he was in Dallas so we will have to see if his time in LA taught him anything.
They bring him in to get Sirianni fired. Just ask Staley. I know you are a Moore lover but he cost your Cowboys many games when they are up but you blame MM when it was really his OC dialing pass after pass like there was no tomorrow. I would take MM play calling over Moore in an important game but if I was playing Madden, I take Moore cause he loves to do what we all would do, air it up all game long regardless of the situation!

https://youtu.be/PjYjd94oXcA?si=lDPJ5VFR9WhrZd-Z

Who said I love Kellen Moore? I’m just stating facts. That’s who Kellen is. The Eagles didn’t hire Kellen just to sit on the sidelines. They hired him because they like his offense more than Sirianni’s (or whoever the had calling plays for Sirianni).

As for Kellen Moore himself, he loves to throw the ball. He does it to a detriment though. He continuously gets away from the ground game. Even if you have a great OL and a stud RB Kellen Moore going to lean towards the pass. When you guys have a big lead and need to run the ball to kill clock, Kellen will continue to throw the ball. He has no concept of clock management. Kellen wants stats not necessarily wins. At least that’s how he calls his offense.
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Post#572 » by WentzerWuver » Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:59 pm

Mr B wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:
Mr B wrote:Well Frank isn’t in Philly anymore and Kellen is. They didn’t bring him in just to sit on the sidelines. I would expect he’s going to have a pretty big roll in designing the offense and calling plays. He wasn’t great at adjustments when he was in Dallas so we will have to see if his time in LA taught him anything.
They bring him in to get Sirianni fired. Just ask Staley. I know you are a Moore lover but he cost your Cowboys many games when they are up but you blame MM when it was really his OC dialing pass after pass like there was no tomorrow. I would take MM play calling over Moore in an important game but if I was playing Madden, I take Moore cause he loves to do what we all would do, air it up all game long regardless of the situation!

https://youtu.be/PjYjd94oXcA?si=lDPJ5VFR9WhrZd-Z

Who said I love Kellen Moore? I’m just stating facts. That’s who Kellen is. The Eagles didn’t hire Kellen just to sit on the sidelines. They hired him because they like his offense more than Sirianni’s (or whoever the had calling plays for Sirianni).

As for Kellen Moore himself, he loves to throw the ball. He does it to a detriment though. He continuously gets away from the ground game. Even if you have a great OL and a stud RB Kellen Moore going to lean towards the pass. When you guys have a big lead and need to run the ball to kill clock, Kellen will continue to throw the ball. He has no concept of clock management. Kellen wants stats not necessarily wins. At least that’s how he calls his offense.
I don't need to remind you that Hurts is NOT Dak and will never be able to make his play calling the reason for our success. Hurts legs and intangibles are his greatest traits, and he need to take advantage of them. Getting hurt is part of the game but he is the least likely to get injured from running unlike most QB. Wish Harbaugh had retain Moore with the Chargers.

https://youtu.be/1iCTNHi1TCo?si=QvT35V6xLLwL-Q1O

https://youtu.be/QIWNkfA8IvQ?si=r9BfX9AqBof6OYPd

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/how-much-does-jalen-hurts-squat-bench-press-and-deadlift-inside-eagles-qbs-incredible-hulk-weightlifting-stats/ar-AA1iCgRY

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/jalen-hurts-had-one-of-the-great-statistical-performances-in-super-bowl-history
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Post#573 » by Mr B » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:46 pm

WentzerWuver wrote:
Mr B wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:They bring him in to get Sirianni fired. Just ask Staley. I know you are a Moore lover but he cost your Cowboys many games when they are up but you blame MM when it was really his OC dialing pass after pass like there was no tomorrow. I would take MM play calling over Moore in an important game but if I was playing Madden, I take Moore cause he loves to do what we all would do, air it up all game long regardless of the situation!

https://youtu.be/PjYjd94oXcA?si=lDPJ5VFR9WhrZd-Z

Who said I love Kellen Moore? I’m just stating facts. That’s who Kellen is. The Eagles didn’t hire Kellen just to sit on the sidelines. They hired him because they like his offense more than Sirianni’s (or whoever the had calling plays for Sirianni).

As for Kellen Moore himself, he loves to throw the ball. He does it to a detriment though. He continuously gets away from the ground game. Even if you have a great OL and a stud RB Kellen Moore going to lean towards the pass. When you guys have a big lead and need to run the ball to kill clock, Kellen will continue to throw the ball. He has no concept of clock management. Kellen wants stats not necessarily wins. At least that’s how he calls his offense.
I don't need to remind you that Hurts is NOT Dak and will never be able to make his play calling the reason for our success. Hurts legs and intangibles are his greatest traits, and he need to take advantage of them. Getting hurt is part of the game but he is the least likely to get injured from running unlike most QB. Wish Harbaugh had retain Moore with the Chargers.

https://youtu.be/1iCTNHi1TCo?si=QvT35V6xLLwL-Q1O

https://youtu.be/QIWNkfA8IvQ?si=r9BfX9AqBof6OYPd

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/how-much-does-jalen-hurts-squat-bench-press-and-deadlift-inside-eagles-qbs-incredible-hulk-weightlifting-stats/ar-AA1iCgRY

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/jalen-hurts-had-one-of-the-great-statistical-performances-in-super-bowl-history

Hurts does run more than Dak did early in his career but Dak used his legs quite a bit. Once Moore was able to help Dak develop his passing mechanics he became more of a pocket passer. You may not like it or even think it will happen but they will be trying to turn Hurts into a pocket passer. They would not have brought in Kellen Moore if that wasn’t the plan.
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Post#574 » by WentzerWuver » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:33 pm

Mr B wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:
Mr B wrote:Who said I love Kellen Moore? I’m just stating facts. That’s who Kellen is. The Eagles didn’t hire Kellen just to sit on the sidelines. They hired him because they like his offense more than Sirianni’s (or whoever the had calling plays for Sirianni).

As for Kellen Moore himself, he loves to throw the ball. He does it to a detriment though. He continuously gets away from the ground game. Even if you have a great OL and a stud RB Kellen Moore going to lean towards the pass. When you guys have a big lead and need to run the ball to kill clock, Kellen will continue to throw the ball. He has no concept of clock management. Kellen wants stats not necessarily wins. At least that’s how he calls his offense.
I don't need to remind you that Hurts is NOT Dak and will never be able to make his play calling the reason for our success. Hurts legs and intangibles are his greatest traits, and he need to take advantage of them. Getting hurt is part of the game but he is the least likely to get injured from running unlike most QB. Wish Harbaugh had retain Moore with the Chargers.

https://youtu.be/1iCTNHi1TCo?si=QvT35V6xLLwL-Q1O

https://youtu.be/QIWNkfA8IvQ?si=r9BfX9AqBof6OYPd

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/how-much-does-jalen-hurts-squat-bench-press-and-deadlift-inside-eagles-qbs-incredible-hulk-weightlifting-stats/ar-AA1iCgRY

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/jalen-hurts-had-one-of-the-great-statistical-performances-in-super-bowl-history

Hurts does run more than Dak did early in his career but Dak used his legs quite a bit. Once Moore was able to help Dak develop his passing mechanics he became more of a pocket passer. You may not like it or even think it will happen but they will be trying to turn Hurts into a pocket passer. They would not have brought in Kellen Moore if that wasn’t the plan.
Well I love the Vic Fangio hire much more then our OC hire to resolve a much bigger issue with our talented defense not being able to stop teams from gaining yards at will. If it wasn't for Hurts intangibles, we would have lost all the close games during the first half of last season as well. Fangio will bring that old school identity that we have been missing by making a far bigger impact.

https://www.nbcsportsphiladelphia.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/just-how-bad-has-the-eagles-defense-been-read-at-your-own-risk/551738/
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Post#577 » by Mariner » Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:31 pm

Reddick always gave Steele problems.
Seems like the eagles downgraded here.
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Post#578 » by QB_Eagles » Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:30 am

Mariner wrote:Reddick always gave Steele problems.
Seems like the eagles downgraded here.

I think with Reddick the issue was he disappeared against stronger competition like Parsons does.
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Post#579 » by righterwriter » Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:58 am

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Mariner wrote:Reddick always gave Steele problems.
Seems like the eagles downgraded here.

I think with Reddick the issue was he disappeared against stronger competition like Parsons does.


He definitely gave the Niners problems. Glad to see him traded to the AFC.
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Post#580 » by QB_Eagles » Tue Apr 2, 2024 3:19 am

If god forbid Mahomes got hurt, it would be funny if all the Cowboys fans here turned Chiefs fans turned Wentz fans.

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