GreekAlex wrote:JennetteMcCurdy wrote:Tobias Harris sighting in Birmingham today! Here we go!
He’s super last resort on my list.
What is an acceptable contract for him?
Two years is tradable. Three or more and we’re stuck.
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GreekAlex wrote:JennetteMcCurdy wrote:Tobias Harris sighting in Birmingham today! Here we go!
He’s super last resort on my list.
What is an acceptable contract for him?
JennetteMcCurdy wrote:GreekAlex wrote:JennetteMcCurdy wrote:Tobias Harris sighting in Birmingham today! Here we go!
He’s super last resort on my list.
What is an acceptable contract for him?
Two years is tradable. Three or more and we’re stuck.
LaSheed wrote:Tobias 2/40 although I've soured on the idea. Not even caring about playoff performance. Winning 14 games forces you to eliminate the negative in a playoff series.
Snakebites wrote:LaSheed wrote:Tobias 2/40 although I've soured on the idea. Not even caring about playoff performance. Winning 14 games forces you to eliminate the negative in a playoff series.
I’d be okay with that number and price. It’s not exciting but I’m that low on the rest of what’s available.
LaSheed wrote:Snakebites wrote:LaSheed wrote:Tobias 2/40 although I've soured on the idea. Not even caring about playoff performance. Winning 14 games forces you to eliminate the negative in a playoff series.
I’d be okay with that number and price. It’s not exciting but I’m that low on the rest of what’s available.
It's actually become a bit deflating just thinking about it my man.
Snakebites wrote:LaSheed wrote:Snakebites wrote:I’d be okay with that number and price. It’s not exciting but I’m that low on the rest of what’s available.
It's actually become a bit deflating just thinking about it my man.
Yeah. People need to be ready for some underwhelming signings and/or trades.
My hope is that we’re able to make some improvements on last years core- get some solid transitional pieces- guys who can give above replacement level production and give our youth people to play off of.
It’s not a high bar I’ve set. I’m still worried I might be disappointed.
JennetteMcCurdy wrote:Tobias Harris sighting in Birmingham today! Here we go!
Snakebites wrote:LaSheed wrote:Tobias 2/40 although I've soured on the idea. Not even caring about playoff performance. Winning 14 games forces you to eliminate the negative in a playoff series.
I’d be okay with that number and price. It’s not exciting but I’m that low on the rest of what’s available.
Mr Peanut wrote:Does anyone have any notion that a Cade/Garland backcourt could work? And if so, what would we be willing to give up to get him? I imagine the trade would start with Ivey and the 5th pick.
bstein14 wrote:Mr Peanut wrote:Does anyone have any notion that a Cade/Garland backcourt could work? And if so, what would we be willing to give up to get him? I imagine the trade would start with Ivey and the 5th pick.
From all reports, Garland is happy there and he's locked up for four more years its Mitchell who wouldn't sign an extension and all signs indicate he wanted to be in NY, LA, or Miami. I see Mitchell as the move and we're unlikely to be a player unless its being the third wheel with cap space to help get a deal done.
Mr Peanut wrote:Does anyone have any notion that a Cade/Garland backcourt could work? And if so, what would we be willing to give up to get him? I imagine the trade would start with Ivey and the 5th pick.
BDM22 wrote:bstein14 wrote:Mr Peanut wrote:Does anyone have any notion that a Cade/Garland backcourt could work? And if so, what would we be willing to give up to get him? I imagine the trade would start with Ivey and the 5th pick.
From all reports, Garland is happy there and he's locked up for four more years its Mitchell who wouldn't sign an extension and all signs indicate he wanted to be in NY, LA, or Miami. I see Mitchell as the move and we're unlikely to be a player unless its being the third wheel with cap space to help get a deal done.
The latest headlines on this site certainly make it look the other way around. That Mitchell is more and more likely going to extend and if he does, Garland "could" request a trade.
The main issue here is offering Ivey in a situation where they really need to pair Mitchell with a larger backcourt mate. Ivey is a bit bigger than Garland, for sure, but I imagine they'd be looking for a legit 6-6, 6-7 guard that defends to put next to Mitchell.
Kalamazoo317 wrote:Mr Peanut wrote:Does anyone have any notion that a Cade/Garland backcourt could work? And if so, what would we be willing to give up to get him? I imagine the trade would start with Ivey and the 5th pick.
I don't really think a Fox/Haliburton backcourt worked, I don't think the Sexton/Garland backcourt worked, I don't think the Trey/Murray backcourt worked, I don't think the Garland/Mitchell backcourt is working, and I don't think the Cade/Ivey backcourt is working.
Seems like if you have a backcourt with two players who really want the ball in their hands, it's going to be a tough fit. Know what backcourt works? Curry/Thompson. Get me a killer off-ball movement shooter who plays great man defense to go with Cade. That's not Garland.
Would I take Garland on a value trade just for the sake of obtaining an asset and boosting our winning potential on raw talent alone? Sure. He'd at least make us better than Ivey does. But do I think it really works as a longterm fit? Not really. It'd be a piece before the piece. I doubt he comes as a price low enough to take that tact, though.
Snakebites wrote:Pairing two ball handlers together only works if one of them is a good off-ball player. Luka/Irving is an example- Kyrie has become a much better off-ball player.
What is Cade gonna do when Garland has the ball? What about vice versa?
This is another reason Cade is hard to build around. He's not a good off ball player but I'm skeptical that a team with him as the sole ball handler is going to work. So you need a hybrid with him- someone who's good both off ball and on ball. Oh, and that player also has to be a good defender.
Did I just talk myself out of thinking Cade should be a max guy for us? Uh oh. I hope not. Because it's happening.