Free Agency

[theBigLip]

My updated UFA targets:

1. Monk
2. Oubre
3. Bridges
4. Claxton
5. Hartenstein

[keepitrealhomes]

My updated UFA targets:

1. Monk
2. Oubre
3. Bridges
4. Claxton
5. Hartenstein

Thanks, I hate it.

[theBigLip]

My updated UFA targets:

1. Monk
2. Oubre
3. Bridges
4. Claxton
5. Hartenstein

Thanks, I hate it.

And your preference of what we should do w $60M+ in cap space?

[MotownMadness]

Oubre will probably get his 18 shots up. Not sure if thats a good or bad thing for us.

[theBigLip]

Oubre will probably get his 18 shots up. Not sure if thats a good or bad thing for us.

I was impressed how he played w Philly, especially in the playoffs. He plays a position of need for the Pistons. I think we could get him for a reasonable price.

[bstein14]

I'd make these calls until someone accepts our money
Call #1 = Offer Siakam a max deal
Call #2 = Offer OG a max deal
Call #3 = Offer Monk 4 years $90 million
Call #4 = Offer Miles Bridges 4 years $100 million
Call #5 = Offer Quickley 4 years $120 million
Call #6 = Offer Tyus jones 4 years $100 millin
Call #7 = Offer KCP 3 years $69 million
Call #8 = Offer Tobias Harris 2 years $40 million
Call #9 = Offer Obi Topping 4 years $69 million
Call #10 = Offer to trade Ivey to Portland for Jerami Grant
Call #11 = Call and see if anyone wants to buy the team.

[keepitrealhomes]

My updated UFA targets:

1. Monk
2. Oubre
3. Bridges
4. Claxton
5. Hartenstein

Thanks, I hate it.

And your preference of what we should do w $60M+ in cap space?

I mean, KCP has to be our #1 target. Or at least try and pry away MPJ.

[joedumars1]

Bruce brown might be able to get for cheap trade wise. Think kcp has showed his value to championship teams, he don’t want the team that sucks and didn’t give him his bag. Bruce has no choice I believe

[theBigLip]

I'd make these calls until someone accepts our money
Call #1 = Offer Siakam a max deal
Call #2 = Offer OG a max deal
Call #3 = Offer Monk 4 years $90 million
Call #4 = Offer Miles Bridges 4 years $100 million
Call #5 = Offer Quickley 4 years $120 million
Call #6 = Offer Tyus jones 4 years $100 millin
Call #7 = Offer KCP 3 years $69 million
Call #8 = Offer Tobias Harris 2 years $40 million
Call #9 = Offer Obi Topping 4 years $69 million
Call #10 = Offer to trade Ivey to Portland for Jerami Grant
Call #11 = Call and see if anyone wants to buy the team.

I like the format. Really clear on priorities and max price.

[GreekAlex]

I’d much rather have Obi Toppin than Miles Bridges.

I think if Obi was on the Hornets, he could put up similar numbers on better splits and with better defense.

[Canadafan]

I'd make these calls until someone accepts our money
Call #1 = Offer Siakam a max deal
Call #2 = Offer OG a max deal
Call #3 = Offer Monk 4 years $90 million
Call #4 = Offer Miles Bridges 4 years $100 million
Call #5 = Offer Quickley 4 years $120 million
Call #6 = Offer Tyus jones 4 years $100 millin
Call #7 = Offer KCP 3 years $69 million
Call #8 = Offer Tobias Harris 2 years $40 million
Call #9 = Offer Obi Topping 4 years $69 million
Call #10 = Offer to trade Ivey to Portland for Jerami Grant
Call #11 = Call and see if anyone wants to buy the team.

No to the bold. And to call#11
Love all the others though.

[GreekAlex]

Cade/ Ivey
Sheppard / Sasser
Ausar/ Grimes
Obi or Tobi (OG Pipe dream)/ Fontecchio
Duren/ Stewart

Cade/ Ivey
Monk/ Sasser
Ausar/ Risacher
Obi or Tobi (OG pipe dream)/ Fontecchio
Duren/ Stewart

Those lineups would lead to an enjoyable season to watch the growth.

Unless there’s internal growth from Cade, Ivey, Duren, Ausar & Stewart, no other moves will make or break the franchise. Cade also needs to stay healthy.

[Mr Peanut]

Cade/ Ivey
Sheppard / Sasser
Ausar/ Grimes
Obi or Tobi (OG Pipe dream)/ Fontecchio
Duren/ Stewart

Cade/ Ivey
Monk/ Sasser
Ausar/ Risacher
Obi or Tobi (OG pipe dream)/ Fontecchio
Duren/ Stewart

Those lineups would lead to an enjoyable season to watch the growth.

Unless there’s internal growth from Cade, Ivey, Duren, Ausar & Stewart, no other moves will make or break the franchise. Cade also needs to stay healthy.

I like both of those rotations, however I think until Ausar shows more of a reliable outside shot I would have him on the bench and start Fontecchio to allow spacing for Cade. Obviously that's subject to change in the future depending on Ausar's progress.

[GreekAlex]

Cade/ Ivey
Sheppard / Sasser
Ausar/ Grimes
Obi or Tobi (OG Pipe dream)/ Fontecchio
Duren/ Stewart

Cade/ Ivey
Monk/ Sasser
Ausar/ Risacher
Obi or Tobi (OG pipe dream)/ Fontecchio
Duren/ Stewart

Those lineups would lead to an enjoyable season to watch the growth.

Unless there’s internal growth from Cade, Ivey, Duren, Ausar & Stewart, no other moves will make or break the franchise. Cade also needs to stay healthy.

I like both of those rotations, however I think until Ausar shows more of a reliable outside shot I would have him on the bench and start Fontecchio to allow spacing for Cade. Obviously that's subject to change in the future depending on Ausar's progress.

I can agree with that. He’ll get his minutes regardless. There’s a lot of moving parts this offseason.

[Mr Peanut]

There's reports that Julius Randle may be available this summer, as he has one year left and will be looking at an extension in the range of 4 years 180 million. Knicks obviously did really well without him and will prioritize re-signing Anunoby and Brunson to big deals.

Should we be looking at Randle as an option to trade for? And if so, what would we give up?

This season he had 24/9/5 on 47/31/78. Has made the All-Star team in 3 of the past 4 seasons.

[bstein14]

There's reports that Julius Randle may be available this summer, as he has one year left and will be looking at an extension in the range of 4 years 180 million. Knicks obviously did really well without him and will prioritize re-signing Anunoby and Brunson to big deals.

Should we be looking at Randle as an option to trade for? And if so, what would we give up?

This season he had 24/9/5 on 47/31/78. Has made the All-Star team in 3 of the past 4 seasons.

I'd trade Ivey for Randle but that's about it. We already did the Knicks the ultimate favor to help them clear the cap space needed to obtain Brunson.

[NYPiston]

My updated UFA targets:

1. Monk
2. Oubre
3. Bridges
4. Claxton
5. Hartenstein

Not a big fan of Oubre but, yes, Monk should be the top target. Claxton or Hartenstein would be great targets too but I think their teams will retain them.

I'll have a really hard time rooting for Bridges and I've always been against the idea for...obvious reasons but I'm at the point where I just want the Pistons to bring in a legit talent so I might be able to live with it.

[Kalamazoo317]

I'm starting to think we should wait until late in free agency to take advantage of all the teams who're over the second apron and desperate to unload cap. Though I don't mind taking a shot at a few big names like OG and Claxton in the early days too. Later on, we can always throw 2 year deals with team options to overpay vets short-term.

[A_dub06]

I'm on the side of proven talent. Sarr is still a question mark. He's not the shooter we need at the 4 and we don't know if he'll be better than Duren or Stewart. So we give up a guy who flashed potential (Ivey) for freaking Jordan Poole (who's a proven sixth man on an insane contract) and a guy who really doesn't fit as the 4 we need in the future (Sarr)?

Wouldn't it be wise to stay at the 5th spot and hope Zaccharie Risacher(who at least projects to be a shooter) drops or trade the pick for someone who we know can shoot at the 3 or 4?

Sarr is a Center not a power forward. He’ll be able to play there in time but for the first couple of seasons he’s a 5. Duren is bad defensively and average-slightly above average on offense. Sarr will come out of the gate with good defence and good form on his outside shot which I think will come round making him a stretch 5. I’d be happier giving up Duren over Ivey since if Ivey can improve his shot he’ll be a productive player but nothing will fix Durens defence, and he will never be a shooter.

Risacher looks more like he just had a hot steak early on with his shooting because his ft% is trash and he shot poorly the last 3rd of the season. He can’t create for himself, he’s not super long or crazy athletic by NBA standards, I don’t know how anyone could say he will be or projects to be a better player than Sarr.

The fact that you think Sarr is a 4 shows you haven’t really done your homework.

Maybe you should as well. I was listening to a draft podcast and they said Sarr isn’t strong enough yet to play the 5. He will have to grow into it like Mobley. He plays D but does not have an elite skill at the moment.

I’ve seen Sarr play in person several times and yeah he’s not that strong and will get bullied to an extent, but he has length and is good defensively. His shooting/dribbling/passing skills I don’t think are good enough to be an nba power forward unless you have a spacing Center, but those skills are above average as a 5 and using them against opposing 5’s is where he’ll have his advantage. Playing him at the 4 where he will be taken away from the basket will also limit his defence at the rim which is one of his best assets. He’s young and weighed in at like 220 so you’d have to think he can put on some bulk after a couple of seasons too. He gets compared to JJJ and Mobley but right now he’s a light Center, which is where you would him to play long term with the ability to switch to the 5.

[Kalamazoo317]

One thing I know for sure about Sarr: the only way we're likely to ever get him is in free agency (that's why this conversation is here, right?).

Maybe he'll be stronger by then