Rip Hamilton

Master Shake · Post #1 » by **Master Shake** » Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:47 pm

Seriously, this deserves its own thread... what the hell is wrong with this guy?

I really don't think I've ever seen anything like this in the NBA, a player who unnecessarily puts the team on his back when he can't carry it, shuts out any player on the team under the age of 30, probably has naked pictures of the coach and Dumars, and just absolutely ruins any form of cohesion we are trying to work on out there.

The dude used to be the ultimate team player, feeding off screens, hitting the curl like its a layup, and a great passer out of cuts... now he is EXACTLY the opposite.

Dude is shooting his lovely sub 40% again so far this year. I'm normally calm with this team because I don't have expectations, but Rip just infuriates me when he's on the court. He'll make 1 or 2 great plays early, then its just atrocious to the end. Chauncey Billups really was his other half... there is no other explanation.

misindapistons1 · Post #2 » by **misindapistons1** » Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:50 pm

qm22 · Post #3 » by **qm22** » Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:52 pm

Tay has been pretty selfish too.

One thing after last nights loss that Kuester said is that the team played like strangers and did not share the ball in the 2nd half, I hope he realizes why that is, and takes action.

I think Rip only shared the ball with Stuckey when AI was here because he disliked playing with AI more.

Master Shake · Post #4 » by **Master Shake** » Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:56 pm

I used to love Rip.

Now I seriously hate him. His game has been questioned since the AI-Billups trade. He has done nothing to help his case, in fact he continually gets worse, a lot worse.

Dude hasn't changed or adapted his game at all, except to dribble into turnovers, take horrible shots, and be a ball stopper on a team that the only reason they were any good was because of ball movement.

I F***ing HATE Rip Hamilton right now, if he plays another 30 minutes and goes 2 for 10 or anything remotely close, I'm going to the practice facility to teach this team basketball and personally slap John Kuester in the face.

Edit: can anybody make me a sig from one of those old black and white movies where townspeople are chasing somebody with torches and pitchforks, making Rip Hamilton be the evil entity the townspeople are chasing? Sounds ridiculous, but I need it.

srt4b · Post #5 » by **srt4b** » Sun Oct 31, 2010 5:32 pm

Remember when RIP could either go for 25/3/3 or 13/9/6 on any given night? This same man destroyed the Pacers 2 years in a row in the playoffs. I can't believe it was the same person. He is still in his prime but his bitch ass attitude has tarnished his reputation and his value is at an all time low. Dude should have one more 40 mil contract coming but now his a MLE guy at best.

ComboGuardCity · Post #6 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Sun Oct 31, 2010 5:44 pm

Rip needs a change of scenery. I honestly think Utah + Sloan would make him worth his contract again.

triplet1984 · Post #7 » by **triplet1984** » Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:14 pm

He's probably trying to assert himself. Why? Because there's another 50 million dollar starting quality SG on the roster too!!!! :roll:

This is Joe Dumars' fault.

Let's be honest. If David Kahn did this... sign two SGs to 50 million dollar contracts each within months of each other.... the mocking and the howling would never stop.

If Rip isn't gone by the trading deadline then Joe Dumars should be fired.

allstar124 · Post #8 » by **allstar124** » Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:26 pm

If We Trade Rip, Gordon could start, Daye could play his actual position, T-Mac can play his actual position, Greg Monroe can possibly get more PT.

If we trade Prince, Daye can start at SF, allowing T-Mac and Daye to split minutes at 20-24, Monroe can get PT, and we could try a whole other experiments

But the fact is, we're not going to trade either Rip or Prince, since we never let anything go down.

allstar124 · Post #9 » by **allstar124** » Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:28 pm

srt4b wrote:Remember when RIP could either go for 25/3/3 or 13/9/6 on any given night? This same man destroyed the Pacers 2 years in a row in the playoffs. I can't believe it was the same person. He is still in his prime but his bitch ass attitude has tarnished his reputation and his value is at an all time low. Dude should have one more 40 mil contract coming but now his a MLE guy at best.

This is like saying saying T-Mac 2 years back could go 30/5/5 any given night.

Spider156 · Post #10 » by **Spider156** » Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:08 pm

allstar124 wrote:
srt4b wrote:Remember when RIP could either go for 25/3/3 or 13/9/6 on any given night? This same man destroyed the Pacers 2 years in a row in the playoffs. I can't believe it was the same person. He is still in his prime but his bitch ass attitude has tarnished his reputation and his value is at an all time low. Dude should have one more 40 mil contract coming but now his a MLE guy at best.

This is like saying saying T-Mac 2 years back could go 30/5/5 any given night.

Except the difference is one guy got a career ending injury while the other guy prides himself with his athletism. I know what you're saying but Rip has no excuse. I really thought he was going to be better than Reggie Miller but I was WRONG! He is very much selfish and disrespectful to the team. Tayshawn is as worse of a ballhog than him. They've overstayed here and they need to go. I love them, but they just lost anything credible in them to stay.

Post #11 » by **Cowology** » Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:13 pm

allstar124 wrote:
srt4b wrote:Remember when RIP could either go for 25/3/3 or 13/9/6 on any given night? This same man destroyed the Pacers 2 years in a row in the playoffs. I can't believe it was the same person. He is still in his prime but his bitch ass attitude has tarnished his reputation and his value is at an all time low. Dude should have one more 40 mil contract coming but now his a MLE guy at best.

This is like saying saying T-Mac 2 years back could go 30/5/5 any given night.

The difference is Tmac has severe physical limitations impairing his ability to play at the same high level. Rip might not be at his physical prime anymore, but his problems are more mental than physical. It's his crappy attitude hurting him (and the team), which is why it's so infuriating.

Master Shake · Post #12 » by **Master Shake** » Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:41 pm

We have to stop blaming it on coaches, these guys have burned through so many of them. It obviously takes a certain kind of coach to get through to them, but they still have this attitude of "we can coach ourselves" and without Chauncey they most certainly cannot.

I just can't believe these guys are the same players, Rip has become the anti-Rip and its painful to watch. Guys like Stuckey, Gordon, Jonas when healthy, Big Ben, and some of the other youngsters absolutely want to win and play hard like a team.

Can't say the same for Rip, dude is in it for himself and it isn't even close to a contract year. Puzzling.

qm22 · Post #13 » by **qm22** » Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:55 pm

Veterans not listening to younger players and not accepting reduced roles is not uncommon. Since we cannot seem to trade Rip or Tay they should simply get benched whenever they play selfish.

misindapistons1 · Post #14 » by **misindapistons1** » Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:11 pm

Heres a crazy thought. Rip is pissed at Joe for signing BG and Tmac he wanted to be the man and thought that would happen when Chauncy was traded. He Sees the writing on the wall of him being traded. SO
a) He is being vendictive. This way the pistons won't get anything in trade value for him.
b) He doesn't want the team he goes to, to have to give up alot for him in a trade.
c) He doesn't want to be traded. He doesn't want to move.

He's not happy about something, and it really sucks. He was such a great teammate, its sad.

Spider156 · Post #15 » by **Spider156** » Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:13 pm

I don't know if you guys notice but usually the last person to be introduced in the beginning of the game is the captain. Rip was the last one to be introduced. Stuckey should be that person.

srt4b · Post #16 » by **srt4b** » Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:35 pm

allstar124 wrote:
srt4b wrote:Remember when RIP could either go for 25/3/3 or 13/9/6 on any given night? This same man destroyed the Pacers 2 years in a row in the playoffs. I can't believe it was the same person. He is still in his prime but his bitch ass attitude has tarnished his reputation and his value is at an all time low. Dude should have one more 40 mil contract coming but now his a MLE guy at best.

This is like saying saying T-Mac 2 years back could go 30/5/5 any given night.

What? Tmac's body has been decimated by injuries. RIP is just as capable as ever. Reggie was putting up 20ppg when he was 36. RIP should be playing better than ever.

It's all in his head.

Post #17 » by **ajaX82** » Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:05 pm

I'm with ya here. Amen brother

I said it a few days ago, but Rip has reached Sheed status with me. He is more of a detriment than a help and only impairs better, younger players from playing.

At this point, trade him for absolutely anything or cut him. Yeah, I may get bashed for that but seriously, cut him. I want him gone in the worst way. I feel nauseous any time he is on the court

Master Shake · Post #18 » by **Master Shake** » Mon Nov 1, 2010 12:57 am

My hopes are Joe is seeing this and making the calls to dump his ass on the first flight outta town. I know Joe has always loved Rip and seen him as a unique and great player, but it is obvious the sun has set on his Piston career and the newer younger guy is outplaying him by a mile. Joe hopefully won't stand for watching Rip scurry around the court turning the ball over and forcing up bad shots... I could be wrong though.

I have never hated a big minute playing rotation player like this since Michael Curry, and its sad because to me Rip used to be MONEY and a favorite of mine, always winning head to head matchups against supposedly better shooting guards. Now, dude makes me want to puke. I haven't hated a Piston so much in awhile, Curry, Mo Evans, Delfino, and Flip Murray were the most recent. Sadly I'm adding Rip to the list.

His number better not EVER be retired, screw his past accomplishments, after the last 2 seasons and seeing this one will be no different, dude doesn't even deserve that playoff scoring record.

easiestplayfts · Post #19 » by **easiestplayfts** » Mon Nov 1, 2010 1:32 am

Rip is not the reason the Pistons are losing games....one person can't be blamed for wins/losses in a team sport. The reason the Pistons are losing close games is a TOTAL LACK OF DEFENSE.
That is the only way a team up by 20 points going into half-time then lose by 10 point in 2 quarters. The Pistons have bigger problems than Rip.

Derrick Rose explains his career high game and the Bulls win over the Pistons:

Chicago trailed by 21 points in the third quarter and were still down by 13 points moments into the fourth. The Bulls then went on a 19-2 run, lead by Rose, who scored eight points in the final period.

"I'm just taking the shots that they gave me," Rose said.

"They're giving me wide open shots. I'm going to take them. They're giving me wide open lanes, I'm going to drive it.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archi ... lls_rally/

Master Shake · Post #20 » by **Master Shake** » Mon Nov 1, 2010 1:55 am

easiestplayfts wrote:Rip is not the reason the Pistons are losing games....one person can't be blamed for wins/losses in a team sport. The reason the Pistons are losing close games is a TOTAL LACK OF DEFENSE.
That is the only way a team up by 20 points going into half-time then lose by 10 point in 2 quarters. The Pistons have bigger problems than Rip.

Derrick Rose explains his career high game and the Bulls win over the Pistons:

Chicago trailed by 21 points in the third quarter and were still down by 13 points moments into the fourth. The Bulls then went on a 19-2 run, lead by Rose, who scored eight points in the final period.

"I'm just taking the shots that they gave me," Rose said.

"They're giving me wide open shots. I'm going to take them. They're giving me wide open lanes, I'm going to drive it.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archi ... lls_rally/

When did I or anybody else say Rip is the sole reason we suck? He certainly isn't.

He is just one very big reason as to why we suck.

I do agree with you, total lack of defense is absolutely killer. But watching Rip attempt to play the game of basketball is absolutely killer.