Detroit Pistons "Real" Cap Space

[Laimbeer]

A post I thought would be interesting to this forum...

"Maximum Cap Space: $27,757,426.00 (if all options were not picked up and all FAs renounced and no draft picks were to be signed this season)
Projected "Real" Cap Space: 9,936,609.00

How I got there:

Guaranteed Contracts (9): Will Bynum, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Luigi Datome, Andre Drummond, Brandon Jennings, Jonas Jerebko (assumes he opts in), Tony Mitchell, Kyle Singler, Josh Smith

Non-Guaranteed Contracts Kept (1): Peyton Siva

Restricted FAs given Qualifying Offers (1): Greg Monroe

FA Cap Holds (0): None

FAs Renounced/Players Waived (4): Chauncey Billups (assumes TO is declined), Josh Harrellson, Rodney Stuckey, Charlie Villanueva

Draft Pick Holds (1): Pick #8 at $2,288,200.00

Expected Exceptions: MLE Non-Tax Exception at $5,305,000.00. BAE at $2,077,000.00

Line of Thinking:
Well, the nightmare of Stuckey (maybe harsh) and Villanueva (not harsh at all) should come to an end. I think they renounce both of them and their large cap holds very quickly. I think it is time for them usher Billups on to the next phase of his career. Maybe with Dumars gone, that Front Office spot (not necessarily the GM) is ready for him. Harrellson is a replacement level big guy. No need to keep him. Siva is an easy keep at the money he is owed.

Monroe and his QO is interesting. It is a large one, but necessary. I don’t think they want to let him walk without any chance of matching or working out a Sign and Trade. I don’t think there is any chance he is back with Detroit next year. I think he’ll get an offer the Pistons either don’t want to match, or they will work out a deal to send him somewhere else. Beyond that, the Pistons have plenty of room to be a player in free agency. I think they will look to balance the roster with Smith at PF, a shooter at SF/SG, and hope for development of KCP. They could possibly be a Hayward destination. He’d be a nice fit at SF or SG for them. I think the Monroe situation has to play out first to have enough space to make a real offer for Hayward though. Beyond that, this roster is close. With the bottom of the Eastern Conference so weak, I think they are in the mix to make a step forward in the playoffs. A much more balanced roster with players in appropriate positions is key though."

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[Warspite]

If your trading Monroe your bringing back salary which takes away your cap space. You either get the cap space or you trade monroe for something. Either way I dont see why anyone would trade him in 2014 when he will have more trade value in 2015.

[Notanoob]

Don't take this as gospel quite yet people, there's some debate as to the actual numbers there.

[Notanoob]

Okay, it looks like they've figured it out. The real cap space, assuming Monroe is given the QO, Chauncey is declined, Stuckey and Charlie are renounced and Jorts isn't kept is $11,965,953.

[tmorgan]

Okay, it looks like they've figured it out. The real cap space, assuming Monroe is given the QO, Chauncey is declined, Stuckey and Charlie are renounced and Jorts isn't kept is $11,965,953.

Or, the depressing as all hell way of looking at it:

About 33 million in cap space, 21 million of which is pre-spent on Swaggy and Smoove. Ugh.

[Defor]

I think Jerebko will opt out ,and go for the 3 yr. 8 to 10 mil type contract. At least I hope so.

[DetroitSho]

Okay, it looks like they've figured it out. The real cap space, assuming Monroe is given the QO, Chauncey is declined, Stuckey and Charlie are renounced and Jorts isn't kept is $11,965,953.

Does any of this take into account the cap supposedly increasing by $5 million?

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[Notanoob]

Yep, you can check the thread linked in the OP.

[Phenomenonsense]

Okay, it looks like they've figured it out. The real cap space, assuming Monroe is given the QO, Chauncey is declined, Stuckey and Charlie are renounced and Jorts isn't kept is $11,965,953.

Does any of this take into account the cap supposedly increasing by $5 million?

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Basically, Monroe's extension is based off of the cap space. So if we sign/trade him and take back salary equal to a max, it won't effect the cap situation by much

[Pharaoh]

We don't get the MLE or BAE if we're under the cap by more than the MLE & BAE

These figures project us to have $11 mil or thereabouts so we'll get that to spend

Which should net us a capable guard and SF.

Then we'd re-sign Monroe using his Bird Rights

Dre/Monroe
Monroe/Smith/Mitchell
FA/Singler/Jerebko
KCP/FA
Jennings/Bynum/Siva

And #8

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[Alexander]

Monroe's cap hold is 10.2 million according to ShamSports. I'm pretty sure that eats into our capspace unless he is a) re-signed, b) accepts a qualifying offer, or c) is renounced.

[coolness]

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I'm trying to find out if Jerebko can opt-in and then ask for a buy-out, so I posted the above link in CBA section.
Nobody answered when I brought it up in the Taint Board thread about "Real" Cap Space.