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Josh Smith bulked up to play PF. SVG is starting him at SF.. 

Post#1 » by vic » Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:58 am

Josh Smith bulked up to play PF. SVG is starting him at SF..

Does that sound weird to anyone else?

So on the wings, Josh Smith is actually slower than he was last year...

Has anyone else observed this In the games?
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Post#2 » by DCintheD » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:13 am

Let's all pretend Josh Smith doesn't exist anymore. I think it could help us get thru our days easier.
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Post#3 » by vic » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:21 am

Lol...

Let me say it a different way:

Last summer JSmith lost weight to play SF. He played bad because he's a big. He played horrible at SF and they had a horrible losing season.

This past summer he bulked up to play PF. SVG is starting him at SF. They are 3-10.

Is this the twilight zone?
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Post#4 » by Moose10Fan » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:38 am

Josh Smith stinks.
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Post#5 » by sfballa13 » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:47 am

The thing that bothers me about the Josh Smith situation is that he is better than Charlie V but plays worst than him and instead of stapling him to the bench like Charlie he is showcased, dropping his trade value further and hurting our record.

SVG should have tried everything in his power to trade him even if it meant taking a bad contract back
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Post#6 » by DetroitSho » Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:03 am

Moose10Fan wrote:Josh Smith stinks.

Pretty much, in 3 words or less.
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Post#7 » by Warspite » Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:44 am

vic wrote:Josh Smith bulked up to play PF. SVG is starting him at SF..

Does that sound weird to anyone else?

So on the wings, Josh Smith is actually slower than he was last year...

Has anyone else observed this In the games?


Josh Smith isnt mature enough to come off the bench. If he was going to bulk up to play PF then he must also either become a better player than Monroe or accept being the 6th man.
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Post#8 » by Ghost » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:04 pm

Basketball Reference's position estimate has Josh Smith playing 71% of his minutes at power forward. I don't know how accurate it really is, but that doesn't seem that bad.. considering everything.

Yeah, I find it funny that he bulked up to play PF but still starts at SF. Problem is, he "has" to start ... and that leaves us with the options of either: have Drummond or Monroe come off the bench OR start Smith at SF. Since we don't really have an awesome SF this makes the most sense. Butler is serviceable and he's playing like 25+ MPG off the bench, so it's not like we are getting totally **** here with Smith playing over half of his minutes at SF like he did last year. Something else I noticed on the lineup tracker, 3 man combinations, our "big 3" is ranked 8th in minutes and on points are only a net -3.9 per 100 poss.... that's actually not that bad for our team :lol:

But like normal, this thread provides opportunity for more Josh Smith hate. I'm sure it'll be constructive and not beating the dead horse....
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Post#9 » by Hotmayo » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:14 pm

Moose10Fan wrote:Josh Smith stinks.


so does gregs defense
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Post#10 » by ImHeisenberg » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:26 pm

Hotmayo wrote:
Moose10Fan wrote:Josh Smith stinks.


so does gregs defense

So does the Detroit Pistons.
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Post#11 » by dVs33 » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:26 pm

It's pretty simple. Meeks, Martin and Gigi are injured, so we're down wing players.
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Post#12 » by Hotmayo » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:29 pm

ImHeisenberg wrote:
Hotmayo wrote:
Moose10Fan wrote:Josh Smith stinks.


so does gregs defense

So does the Detroit Pistons.


:lol: yup
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Post#13 » by Hotmayo » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:30 pm

dVs33 wrote:It's pretty simple. Meeks, Martin and Gigi are injured, so we're down wing players.




meeks is seriously a very good complement player. He will have a large impact for us.
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Post#14 » by dVs33 » Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:56 pm

Hotmayo wrote:
dVs33 wrote:It's pretty simple. Meeks, Martin and Gigi are injured, so we're down wing players.




meeks is seriously a very good complement player. He will have a large impact for us.


I like to think so. With him healthy, we can even use KCP at SF for limited minutes which helps.
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Post#15 » by Hotmayo » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:32 pm

dVs33 wrote:
Hotmayo wrote:
dVs33 wrote:It's pretty simple. Meeks, Martin and Gigi are injured, so we're down wing players.




meeks is seriously a very good complement player. He will have a large impact for us.


I like to think so. With him healthy, we can even use KCP at SF for limited minutes which helps.


I agree as well. And even a kcp off the bench makes us a more dynamic team.
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Post#16 » by Moose10Fan » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:39 pm

Hotmayo wrote:
Moose10Fan wrote:Josh Smith stinks.


so does gregs defense



Josh's is just as bad, atleast Monroe tries.
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Post#17 » by whitehops » Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:37 pm

the only time smith plays small forward is when we have Drummond and moose on the floor as well. that smith-Monroe-Drummond lineup has only been played about 17% of the time this year, compared to ~34% last year...

people need to stop getting hung up on who starts, there's tons of lineups used throughout a game.


that being said, I have noticed how slow smith looks, it's especially noticeable in the open court.
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Post#18 » by Hotmayo » Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:52 pm

Moose10Fan wrote:
Hotmayo wrote:
Moose10Fan wrote:Josh Smith stinks.


so does gregs defense



Josh's is just as bad, atleast Monroe tries.


josh needs to be released and greg is gone for nothing. we have to start over with drummond. we will probably be worst team in nba next year.
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Post#19 » by Ghost » Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:28 pm

whitehops wrote:the only time smith plays small forward is when we have Drummond and moose on the floor as well. that smith-Monroe-Drummond lineup has only been played about 17% of the time this year, compared to ~34% last year...

people need to stop getting hung up on who starts, there's tons of lineups used throughout a game.


that being said, I have noticed how slow smith looks, it's especially noticeable in the open court.

It's also like he can't jump over a pizza box with the extra weight on. :lol:
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Post#20 » by Ghost » Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:31 pm

Hotmayo wrote:
Moose10Fan wrote:
Hotmayo wrote:
so does gregs defense



Josh's is just as bad, atleast Monroe tries.


josh needs to be released and greg is gone for nothing. we have to start over with drummond. we will probably be worst team in nba next year.


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