Pistons future not looking too good
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Pistons future not looking too good
With the pistons heading to the lottery again and moose leaving the pistons gonna take a big step back next season plus jennngs will be out to start the season.We gonna have another lottery pick in the 10 to 12 range but SVG dont like to play rookies drummond up for a new contract man its sad being a piston fan rite now
6 losing seasons and nothing to look forward too next season
6 losing seasons and nothing to look forward too next season
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aad wrote:With the pistons heading to the lottery again and moose leaving the pistons gonna take a big step back next season plus jennngs will be out to start the season.We gonna have another lottery pick in the 10 to 12 range but SVG dont like to play rookies drummond up for a new contract man its sad being a piston fan rite now
6 losing seasons and nothing to look forward too next season
If you don't consider the following:
1) We have a good coach
2) We have a stable front office/coach
3) We have a young star who will only get better
4) We still could retain Moose
5) We have a draft pick
6) We have cap room
7) With BJ, we are a good team
8) We have KCP who will get better (hopefully)
Then I agree, nothing to look forward too....
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im done calling Drummond a "young star" He's in his third season and hasn't gotten any better. He's great at rebounding and blocking shots but doesn't do anything else very well
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The worst case scenario definitely doesn't look too good. If KCP comes back next year being this inconsistent and bricking wide open threes over and over, if Drummond doesn't take a significant leap forward in his final year of his rookie contract and become more than a super garbage man with occasional lapses in motor, if Moose leaves and if we are unable to sign any starting caliber or better free agents, then yes we are absolutely in trouble.
It remains to be seen what happens though. Having SVG is a plus, and there's a very good chance Jennings returns at the start of next season. But for this team to really take off, Moose/KCP/Drummond cannot come back next year as the same players they are today. Moose has been the same player for several years now to be honest, it's time for him to add a legitimate jump shot to his game and put on a little bit of muscle so he has less trouble finishing around the rim. Can't get to the paint every time, the best big men in the league have games that extend outside of the paint. KCP.......dude needs to lock himself in a gym and just shoot. And perhaps dribble as well.
SVG has his work cut out for him...
It remains to be seen what happens though. Having SVG is a plus, and there's a very good chance Jennings returns at the start of next season. But for this team to really take off, Moose/KCP/Drummond cannot come back next year as the same players they are today. Moose has been the same player for several years now to be honest, it's time for him to add a legitimate jump shot to his game and put on a little bit of muscle so he has less trouble finishing around the rim. Can't get to the paint every time, the best big men in the league have games that extend outside of the paint. KCP.......dude needs to lock himself in a gym and just shoot. And perhaps dribble as well.
SVG has his work cut out for him...
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wish I could and-10 this...
man people are blue. it really sucks that Jennings went down but the position we're in now is still 10x better than we were 40 days ago.
people gotta be more patient with KCP. he was raw coming into the league and has already taken HUGE steps since his rookie year. he has all the tools it takes to be good both offensively and defensively and he's on the right trajectory. it simply takes time with some players. I like to equate him to derozan but I think you could also use jimmy butler as an example. he, like KCP, looked like he had potential to be a very good defender but was extremely raw offensively. just last year butler shot less than 40% from the field and was inefficient overall. however, he showed steady improvement and made a huge leap this year - now he's a sure-fire all star and looks like he can be a franchise player. KCP has good shot mechanics and his shot will continue to improve. he'll learn to be more disciplined defensively and his overall talent level will improve, if his improvement from last year to today has shown anything.
we have a point guard that has shown the ability to be not only a good player but a good leader too, and he's only 25. he has a contract year next year which will be an audition for the future. to be honest I think the best-case scenario is that he eases back from injury and we re-sign him for a discount due to injury concerns (like GSW did with curry) and then Jennings plays at the same level he was before he got injured. if we don't re-sign him we have Dinwiddie who looks like he can be a decent PG with more experience, and there will be serviceable PG's available all the time.
we have great cap flexibility so we can fill any holes we might have with lesser-known guys, SVG has shown he can make the most of them. look at tolliver for that, in his limited minutes since he joined us he has played probably the best ball of his career. a lot of his per-36 numbers are career highs.
bottom line, we have young talent with potential and (imo) a top 3 coach in the league, when we showed in the 15 games after we cut smith that we can be a good team. with another season/offseason to coach the players we have/improve talent in the offseason I am very optimistic for the future.
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Hopefully Svg surprises us tmrw with a solid pg addition. And a demotion of the great white hope to the bench where he belongs.
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I will bet that everyone will be excited if we draft a lottery stud and sign 2 max players over the summer.
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aad wrote:With the pistons heading to the lottery again and moose leaving the pistons gonna take a big step back next season plus jennngs will be out to start the season.We gonna have another lottery pick in the 10 to 12 range but SVG dont like to play rookies drummond up for a new contract man its sad being a piston fan rite now
6 losing seasons and nothing to look forward too next season
The future looks better when you think about the culture shift we are going through. Ownership supports the Managment. Management supports the Bench. The Bench/Management have a clear understanding of what a winning system looks like. The team has to go through some turnover to be of the same mind with the Bench, Management, and Ownership.
It's a long road.
I was listening to the Pistons Podcast and they had Stephen A Smith on. Matt asked if the Pistons had a shot at making the playoffs this year? Stephen A said something like, "I don't care." His attitude was if you make it, you aren't going to win anything anyway, so who cares? If we shift the culture and play with competitive spirit and end up in the lottery that has the same effect as making the first road and getting destroyed.
He said Detroit isn't going to attract any free agents like Kawhi Leonard or LaMarcus Aldridge, so we need to get a stud from the draft and retain our young core while adding pieces. He gave SVG a huge vote of confidence. The future looks brighter than you think homey.
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No excuse for last night's game. But, it doesn't mean we have to hit the self destruct button on the team yet. SVG's system obviously thrives with PG play. DJ is ass for a PG. He just wants to score.
If SVG can find a PG who can pass and score, the team will begin performing better.
If SVG can find a PG who can pass and score, the team will begin performing better.
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Pistons have a great future, this is actually a chance to get a strong draft pick and two great free agents and strengthen the team IMMENSELY at the three and the four.
Then you come back with Jennings and a potential contender for the next 5 years.
This almost like 50% of what happened to the spurs, when David Robinson got injured and they ended up with the number one draft pick to get Tim Duncan.
This is going to allow the Pistons to get a much higher pick than they would have and they will be able to add to an already strong team
Then you come back with Jennings and a potential contender for the next 5 years.
This almost like 50% of what happened to the spurs, when David Robinson got injured and they ended up with the number one draft pick to get Tim Duncan.
This is going to allow the Pistons to get a much higher pick than they would have and they will be able to add to an already strong team
You need 2-way wings, 2-way shooting bigs, and you can't allow low iq players on the court. Assist/turnover ratio is crucial. Shooting point guards are icing on the cake IF they are plus defenders.
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There is a bright future. It just may not happen this season. Regardless, Stan does play rookies because Courtney Lee started on the Magic's finals team. If Stan can take a team to the finals starting Dwight, Shard Lewis, Turkoglu, Lee and Jameer, there is hope for the Pistons.
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BadMofoPimp wrote:There is a bright future. It just may not happen this season. Regardless, Stan does play rookies because Courtney Lee started on the Magic's finals team. If Stan can take a team to the finals starting Dwight, Shard Lewis, Turkoglu, Lee and Jameer, there is hope for the Pistons.
Yeah lol 'Stan doesn't play rookies'.
The only rookie we have on the roster is a second round pick who is coming off ACL surgery and clearly isn't ready to play any significant minutes.
I think Stan plays guys who compete and contribute, whether they are rookies or ancient like butler.
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It was only a matter of time until the sugar high wore off and the Pistons board returned to its pessimistic ways.
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Jennings is/was my "sugar high". What we got left is raw tofu.
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We have a great coach and we’ve seen what this team can do with a healthy Jennings, I don’t buy that this team’s future is not bright. That said, this team’s future depends on next season’s free agency. SVG has the money to seriously improve this team, he’s just got to make the right moves. He needs to swing for the fences and not settle for subpar FAs like Augustin/Butler/Meeks like he did last year. I think this is a make or break offseason for us. These are the areas that I think we should focus on:
1) Effort. There are too many lackadaisical players in this team. Monroe, Jerebko and KCP are the only guy who consistently plays with effort game in and game out. Unfortunately KCP rarely is able to get his shot to fall and Jonas has been all but replaced by Tolliver. We need an injection of players who come to play every night. We cannot get buy if Monroe is the only player capable of contributing each night.
2) Defense. Our perimeter defense is a joke. Too often our perimeter players get beat and must rely on our center to clean up for them. Monroe cannot block shots, which means that unless our perimeter players learn how to play defense- opposing team’s perimeter guys will have an open lane to the basket. Additionally, while Drummond is a good help defender, he is not a good a good man defender. While Greg is successful in that department we could use the addition of a bigman who plays both good man defense and help defense. Hopefully with another year under his belt, Drummond can become the defensive anchor that this team needs him to be.
3) Better Perimeter Play. We have a lot of shooters, and sadly most nights their shots are off which renders them ineffective because they cannot get inside to score in the halfcourt. I know SVG loves 4-1 but we need variety in our offense, we are too reliant on shooting. We need to target some players who can both shoot and still get to the paint and score instead of just focusing on “3 and (no) D” players. Additionally, we need players who know how to make a post entry pass. Far too often our perimeter players just pass the ball along the perimeter before one of them misses a 3 point shot- this is not a winning strategy. Without production from our wings, we will not be a good team. KCP/Singler/Butler/Meeks are not cutting it.
SVG has an opportunity to improve our team this off season through the draft and free agency.
1) Effort. There are too many lackadaisical players in this team. Monroe, Jerebko and KCP are the only guy who consistently plays with effort game in and game out. Unfortunately KCP rarely is able to get his shot to fall and Jonas has been all but replaced by Tolliver. We need an injection of players who come to play every night. We cannot get buy if Monroe is the only player capable of contributing each night.
2) Defense. Our perimeter defense is a joke. Too often our perimeter players get beat and must rely on our center to clean up for them. Monroe cannot block shots, which means that unless our perimeter players learn how to play defense- opposing team’s perimeter guys will have an open lane to the basket. Additionally, while Drummond is a good help defender, he is not a good a good man defender. While Greg is successful in that department we could use the addition of a bigman who plays both good man defense and help defense. Hopefully with another year under his belt, Drummond can become the defensive anchor that this team needs him to be.
3) Better Perimeter Play. We have a lot of shooters, and sadly most nights their shots are off which renders them ineffective because they cannot get inside to score in the halfcourt. I know SVG loves 4-1 but we need variety in our offense, we are too reliant on shooting. We need to target some players who can both shoot and still get to the paint and score instead of just focusing on “3 and (no) D” players. Additionally, we need players who know how to make a post entry pass. Far too often our perimeter players just pass the ball along the perimeter before one of them misses a 3 point shot- this is not a winning strategy. Without production from our wings, we will not be a good team. KCP/Singler/Butler/Meeks are not cutting it.
SVG has an opportunity to improve our team this off season through the draft and free agency.
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Drummond is 21. We get one right bounce of the ping pong balls and we can finally pair him with a stud on the wing. We have no bad contracts, outside of the $5 mil we have locked up for Smith. We have one of the best coaches in the league. Joe Dumars can't hurt us anymore. Lebron is 30.
The future looks way better than it did just a few years ago.
The future looks way better than it did just a few years ago.
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^^^ Well put .