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Post #41 » by **Feed Your Head** » Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:39 pm

What are your thought on Luke Kuechly? He has gotten pretty big, and i don't know what his 40 time will be, but he looks pretty damn fast on the field.

Post #42 » by **Manhattan Project** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:18 am

Thanks for the TE wrap up, I really feel that some teams are going to start using two tight ends because they see how effective the Patriots are with Gronk/Hernandez. I personally would love the Jets to do the same thing.

Question: Do you buy the Luck will force himself to a team talk?

Post #43 » by **PhilipNelsonFan** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:20 am

Is there much to Kellen Moore as an NFL prospect? He's going to look like a HS kid playing against grown men but he already has the mind of an offensive coordinator and he's got good accuracy on his passes. He will get knocked physically for multiple reasons but the fact that he reads defenses so well has to add value.

Staying with Boise State, I've always like Billy Winn and George Iloka as college players and I'm curious as to your thoughts on their next-level potential.

Post #44 » by **Icness** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:40 pm

Big_Matt34 wrote:What are your thought on Luke Kuechly? He has gotten pretty big, and i don't know what his 40 time will be, but he looks pretty damn fast on the field.

It's hard to evaluate him because the team is absolute crap around him and he is more of a facilitator type of backer than an instigator, more James Farrior than Brian Urlacher. I love him as a read/react tackle machine in the Demeco Ryans mold, but I don't think he's a great playmaker. Great sideline to sideline flow. I think he is probably best as a 3-4 ILB and probably can start right away and play well for a decade. But I think teams will want more bang for their first round buck and it wouldn't surprise me to see him in the second round.

Post #45 » by **Icness** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:47 pm

Question: Do you buy the Luck will force himself to a team talk?

Hard to say without personally knowing him. But I think because his dad played on some real bad Oilers teams, I do believe that Andrew will be more likely to use leverage to maybe dictate what coach he wants in Miami or Indy, that sort of thing. His dad knows the NFL inside out and I think when Andrew Luck steps up and says, "I want to play for Coach X and get me wide receiver X too" the team had better listen.

I just watched a little of the Washington game. Dude is just on a different plane that everyone else. It is very akin to watching Lebron in high school, you just get the overwhelming sense that he is so much better than everyone else but still has the hunger and drive to get better. I hope he doesn't lose that.

Post #46 » by **Icness** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:02 pm

PhilipNelsonFan wrote:Is there much to Kellen Moore as an NFL prospect? He's going to look like a HS kid playing against grown men but he already has the mind of an offensive coordinator and he's got good accuracy on his passes. He will get knocked physically for multiple reasons but the fact that he reads defenses so well has to add value.

Staying with Boise State, I've always like Billy Winn and George Iloka as college players and I'm curious as to your thoughts on their next-level potential.

I don't see Moore in the NFL as anything more than a 3rd stringer and holder. Good/great college QB, not a legit NFL prospect, doesn't have the arm, the strength, or the size.

I like Wynn as a 3-4 DE but he can play all over the line. High-energy with very active hands and good feet, quick get-off. Great pad level and its consistent even when he rushes from a 2-point stance. I see him like Ziggy Hood or maybe Matt Shaughnessy, a solid complementary rusher that plays the run well and is not fun to play against. Like Shaughnessy he is a guy that has to get you with his first pass rush move or else he's in trouble, but if he gets you the QB had better be prepared to get hit. Hard.

Iloka has that great size and pretty good range. He's not as instinctive as I like to see and he tackles poorly; he either lunges at feet or he stays up too high and tries for the kill shot. He is pretty slender too, but some team is going to see him destroy the Combine with a 40" vertical at 6'3", run a 4.48 40 and finish near the top in 3-cone shuttle and think he's worth a 2nd or 3rd round pick. I have him mentally penciled as a 5th rounder but I do need to see him more.

hermes · Post #47 » by **hermes** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:30 am

what do you think of Marvin McNutt and where does he rank amoungst the rest of the receivers this year?

and will shaun prater and jordan bernstine find their ways onto nfl teams?

Post #48 » by **Icness** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:53 pm

I am higher than most on McNutt. Love his size, love his physicality, love his knack for making plays when a play needs to be made. Great blocker, smart football player. He's a 2nd/3rd round pick, not fast or explosive enough to go higher and he's got some injury issues. He's in the 7-10 range on my WR big board right now.

Prater can definitely play. I see him being a great fit for the Cover-2 base teams. Iowa almost never plays man coverage so that is something he has to show he can do. Plus he's short and doesn't strike me as an athletic freak. Reminds me of the young/healthy Nate Vasher. He's a 2nd rounder if he runs well, 3rd/4th if he doesn't.

I don't see Bernstine making a roster. The fact that Tyler Sash can't break the lineup on the Giants doesn't help because Bernstine isn't close to Sash in terms of pro potential.

Post #49 » by **TyCobb** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:24 am

Jonathan Massaquoi.

Third/Fourth rounder?

Post #50 » by **Icness** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:24 pm

TyCobb wrote:Jonathan Massaquoi.

Third/Fourth rounder?

You know what's funny about him? Most people think he's a tweener and would like to see him play OLB because he only weighs about 240 (the 250 listed figure is inflated) and I doubt he's more than 6' tall. I actually like him as a speedy/short defensive end in the Robert Mathis/Elvis Dumervil mold. Those giant tackles have real trouble getting leverage on those shorter guys. I want to see his power numbers in the weight room, specifically leg press and squat, to see if he can handle the edge. He's looked okay in space when Troy asks him to drop, but I like what I've seen when he crosses the tackle and gets that inside shoulder to the B gap. Mathis has made a killing doing that and this guy has that kind of potential. But he has to have the sand in the pants to back it up and IDK if that is there. If he shows up to the Senior Bow/Combine weighing 245, I think he goes 2nd round. If he's less than that then I think your range is dead on. He is one of my favored sleepers at this point.

mnWI · Post #51 » by **mnWI** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:50 am

Any thoughts on Nick Perry or Ronnell Lewis as 34 OLBs?

Post #52 » by **Icness** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:48 am

mnWI wrote:Any thoughts on Nick Perry or Ronnell Lewis as 34 OLBs?

Perry strikes me as the classic mega recruit that just physically matured earlier than everyone else and once he started going against guys that could match up, he isn't a very good football player. USC collects those kind of guys like Warren Buffet collects money. I'll admit to not having watched him real close this year. I want to see how he does against Luck and the strong Stanford line this week. Consider my opinion incomplete.

I am forever mistaking Ronnell and Travis Lewis. I like Ronnell better, I think he can play WLB in a Cover 2 scheme. Good flow to the ball, sound tackler most of the time, can cover a little. If he wants to play OLB as a pass rusher he needs to work on slipping blocks and getting off the snap quicker. Not impossible but not his best role IMO.

ZedgetRedd · Post #53 » by **ZedgetRedd** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:19 pm

Thoughts on this years safety class?

Post #54 » by **TyCobb** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:48 am

Icness wrote:
TyCobb wrote:Jonathan Massaquoi.

Third/Fourth rounder?

You know what's funny about him? Most people think he's a tweener and would like to see him play OLB because he only weighs about 240 (the 250 listed figure is inflated) and I doubt he's more than 6' tall. I actually like him as a speedy/short defensive end in the Robert Mathis/Elvis Dumervil mold. Those giant tackles have real trouble getting leverage on those shorter guys. I want to see his power numbers in the weight room, specifically leg press and squat, to see if he can handle the edge. He's looked okay in space when Troy asks him to drop, but I like what I've seen when he crosses the tackle and gets that inside shoulder to the B gap. Mathis has made a killing doing that and this guy has that kind of potential. But he has to have the sand in the pants to back it up and IDK if that is there. If he shows up to the Senior Bow/Combine weighing 245, I think he goes 2nd round. If he's less than that then I think your range is dead on. He is one of my favored sleepers at this point.

Thanks for the great scouting report as always, Icness.

Post #55 » by **studcrackers** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:44 pm

what are the draft prospects in regards to a couple georgia guys in jarvis jones and aaron murray?

im curious if anyone thinks murray can be anything at the next level? he's not built huge (listed at 205) but his arm seems more than capable, maybe it's just wishful thinking, what are your thoughts on him?

Post #56 » by **JaxMagic** » Tue Nov 1, 2011 12:19 am

Going into next year, the Jags could definitely use some playmakers on the offensive side. What are your thoughts on Lamar Miller, TY Hilton, and Chris Rainey and where do you think those players are most likely to go in the draft? Thanks!

mnWI · Post #57 » by **mnWI** » Wed Nov 2, 2011 6:17 am

Icness wrote:
mnWI wrote:Any thoughts on Nick Perry or Ronnell Lewis as 34 OLBs?

Perry strikes me as the classic mega recruit that just physically matured earlier than everyone else and once he started going against guys that could match up, he isn't a very good football player. USC collects those kind of guys like Warren Buffet collects money. I'll admit to not having watched him real close this year. I want to see how he does against Luck and the strong Stanford line this week. Consider my opinion incomplete.

I am forever mistaking Ronnell and Travis Lewis. I like Ronnell better, I think he can play WLB in a Cover 2 scheme. Good flow to the ball, sound tackler most of the time, can cover a little. If he wants to play OLB as a pass rusher he needs to work on slipping blocks and getting off the snap quicker. Not impossible but not his best role IMO.

Thanks for the response and follow-up in the article (and the shoutout)

Roger Murdock · Post #58 » by **Roger Murdock** » Thu Nov 3, 2011 12:24 am

Thoughts on Ryan Tannehill? To me he seems like the type of Quarterback the Browns front office might be really interested in come the first round next year - Do you agree and what type of player do you think he might be?

Post #59 » by **Icness** » Thu Nov 3, 2011 7:41 pm

JaxMagic wrote:Going into next year, the Jags could definitely use some playmakers on the offensive side. What are your thoughts on Lamar Miller, TY Hilton, and Chris Rainey and where do you think those players are most likely to go in the draft? Thanks!

I'm actually watching FIU/Troy right now, checking out Hilton, Massaquoi, and a couple others. I love Hilton's explosion. He gets from stop to top speed in three steps, real impressive. He has crisp footwork but he does downshift to make breaks as a wideout. He also doesn't really have a lot of shiftiness other than just being faster than everyone else. Doesn't strike me as a great leaper or catcher of the ball, only average on both counts. Where I think he shines is in the slot and coming out of the backfield, using him the way the Browns use Josh Cribbs to get him the ball in space. He's not as tough as Cribbs though.

I like Miller quite a bit, more and more every time I see Miami. He's got great vision and a real feel for how to set up his blockers. He has some Jahvid Best to him, minus the concussions. He's bigger than I thought he was too.

I'm not a Rainey fan. Aside from the fact he's tiny, he has earned his rep as a difficlut guy to coach. I do know one scout that thinks he is Darren Sproles II, but Sproles has a better sturdiness to him when he runs. Rainey goes down on first contact way too readily. He's a return specialist and novelty back.

Back to the Troy/FIU game, Jonathan Massaquoi was freaking dominant. I rated him earlier from seeing a couple other games and this only raises my opinion of him. Dude is going to be tough to block in the NFL.

Post #60 » by **Icness** » Thu Nov 3, 2011 7:54 pm

Roger Murdock wrote:Thoughts on Ryan Tannehill? To me he seems like the type of Quarterback the Browns front office might be really interested in come the first round next year - Do you agree and what type of player do you think he might be?

Tannehill is a much better NFL QB than Barkley or Landry Jones in my humble opinion. He has the perfect size at 6'4.5", 220 pounds, he's an exceptional athlete that was their top wideout two years ago and was a champion hurdler in HS, he's got a very natural quick release, great arm strength all over the field. TAMU is coached by Mike Sherman, former (failed) Packers coach who has asked him to make NFL throws from both under center and shotgun. For as little time as he has spent playing QB, he already does a better job than Jones (not picking on him, just using as an example) of reading a defense, manipulating coverage with his eyes and posture, and buying himself time while not abandoning the play. Still some rough edges, still needs to work on touch on shorter throws and at how and when to throw a ball away. He is not dissimilar to the Aaron Rodgers that came out of Cal. What he does with that is anyone's guess.

I have to think Holmgren would have strong interest in him. And he is likely to be available in the 6-10 range where I think the Browns will get their own pick, and they also have ATL's to play with. I'm not shy in stating I do not think Colt McCoy is an NFL QB and I hope Holmgren comes to that realization quickly.