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Re: 1/24 Game 41 Hawks (18-25) @ Warriors (18-22) 7:00pm 

Post#181 » by Romulus » Thu Jan 25, 2024 12:22 pm

jozef wrote:Wiggins is SF and Kuminga is PF.


Is this a joke? Kerr will play anyone at any position. Curry at 2; Klay at 3; Wiggins at the 4; Draymond at the 5.

He'll play 3 guards and 4 guards at a time. He'll player whoever he wants whenever he wants. Also, keep in mind, Draymond didn't start tonight, Saric did.

Kuminga probably is the Warriors 2nd best player on the roster right now. He should be playing as much as anyone.

Enough.
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Re: 1/24 Game 41 Hawks (18-25) @ Warriors (18-22) 7:00pm 

Post#182 » by superunknown » Thu Jan 25, 2024 12:57 pm

Romulus wrote:Would we all agree now that Kuminga is better than Wiggins? If that's the case, why is Wiggins starting? And why are their minutes roughly the same?

You do want to play the best players, right?


not defensively.
winning basketball is played on both ends of the floor, not just on one.
and this team currently is bad on D. that's the main reason why this season's been awful so far.
and that's the reason why they should trade klay or at the very least drastically reduce his minutes. he cannot play decent D anymore.
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Re: 1/24 Game 41 Hawks (18-25) @ Warriors (18-22) 7:00pm 

Post#183 » by cpower » Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:53 pm

good game by Draymond, JK, Klay and Joseph...i think if every night we have 4-5 players stepping up we are going to be ok but consistency is a big question right now.
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Re: 1/24 Game 41 Hawks (18-25) @ Warriors (18-22) 7:00pm 

Post#184 » by cdubbz » Thu Jan 25, 2024 2:42 pm

It's a crime that Kuminga is only playing 23mpg for the season. The last 5 games he has been getting closer to 30 and has been productive on offense.

Last 2 games better rebounding numbers - but the coaching staff need to get on him for every game under 5 boards. Force him to do box out drills with Podz and Moody or something. Those guys crash the boards hard.
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Re: 1/24 Game 41 Hawks (18-25) @ Warriors (18-22) 7:00pm 

Post#185 » by Sleepy51 » Thu Jan 25, 2024 2:49 pm

cdubbz wrote:It's a crime that Kuminga is only playing 23mpg for the season. The last 5 games he has been getting closer to 30 and has been productive on offense.

Last 2 games better rebounding numbers - but the coaching staff need to get on him for every game under 5 boards. Force him to do box out drills with Podz and Moody or something. Those guys crash the boards hard.


This Kuminga season is what we should have been working towards last season. Playing Anthony Lamb in order to lose half of the games was not a worthwhile investment over Kuminga's development.
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Post#186 » by Onus » Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:30 pm

The lineups just made so much more sense in this game. So maybe we've got something moving forward.
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Re: 1/24 Game 41 Hawks (18-25) @ Warriors (18-22) 7:00pm 

Post#187 » by bicycle » Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:42 pm

Onus wrote:The lineups just made so much more sense in this game. So maybe we've got something moving forward.

Until GP and CP come back and we go directly to the lineups from the early season again.
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Re: 1/24 Game 41 Hawks (18-25) @ Warriors (18-22) 7:00pm 

Post#188 » by cpower » Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:07 pm

Onus wrote:The lineups just made so much more sense in this game. So maybe we've got something moving forward.

not the starting lineups, both Saric/Loon/Wiggins/Klay/Curry and Saric/Green/Wiggins/Klay/Curry are -9 per 36.
The JK/Wiggins/Green is ok with Curry and Podz but i doubt Kerr will play them a lot.
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Re: 1/24 Game 41 Hawks (18-25) @ Warriors (18-22) 7:00pm 

Post#189 » by EvanZ » Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:18 pm

I didn't even watch this game with Trae Young being out.
I was right about 3 point shooting. I expect to be right about Tacko Fall. Some coach will figure out how to use Tacko Fall. This movement towards undersized centers will sweep ng back. Back to the basket scorers will return to the NBA.
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Post#190 » by whatisacenter » Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:23 pm

EvanZ wrote:I didn't even watch this game with Trae Young being out.


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Re: 1/24 Game 41 Hawks (18-25) @ Warriors (18-22) 7:00pm 

Post#191 » by EvanZ » Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:29 pm

whatisacenter wrote:
EvanZ wrote:I didn't even watch this game with Trae Young being out.


true fan...


I put in more than my share of time watching **** Warriors teams the past 30 years. A blowout win against a Hawks team missing Trae Young is not going to change the course of this **** season.
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Re: 1/24 Game 41 Hawks (18-25) @ Warriors (18-22) 7:00pm 

Post#192 » by whatisacenter » Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:32 pm

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whatisacenter wrote:
EvanZ wrote:I didn't even watch this game with Trae Young being out.


true fan...


I put in more than my share of time watching **** Warriors teams the past 30 years. A blowout win against a Hawks team missing Trae Young is not going to change the course of this **** season.


Congrats, I just found it odd that you didn't watch the game but took the time to tell everyone in the game thread.

I have watched nearly every Warriors game, good or bad, since the late 80's. I love basketball and would watch two middle schoolers play one on one at recess.
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Re: 1/24 Game 41 Hawks (18-25) @ Warriors (18-22) 7:00pm 

Post#193 » by EvanZ » Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:35 pm

whatisacenter wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:
true fan...


I put in more than my share of time watching **** Warriors teams the past 30 years. A blowout win against a Hawks team missing Trae Young is not going to change the course of this **** season.


Congrats, I just found it odd that you didn't watch the game but took the time to tell everyone in the game thread.

I have watched nearly every Warriors game, good or bad, since the late 80's. I love basketball and would watch two middle schoolers play one on one at recess.


I love watching good basketball not any basketball.
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Post#194 » by wco81 » Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:39 pm

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wco81 wrote:They gave Mills and Matthews and some of their best shooters too many wide open looks.

So they had the widow of the coach who died on the bench?


One reason they’ve had a rough stretch is that Curry has been in a slump. Only 38.7/34.9/88.9 in the last 10 games and under 45% FG percentage for the season, just under 40% from 3 for the season.

Could be related to CP being injured and Dray being suspended. But too often he’s seemed too casual, thinking he could flip the switch in crunch time.

When the team was blowing 20 point leads to the Clippers, Kings, I think also OKC the last time they played them, at least he was shooting very well.


But at this point, is the team still trying to at least make the play in this season? Guess we’ll see what they do before the trade deadline. Maybe they just try to dump salary.


maybe because, at age 36, he has to work his ass off even on D because of the guy he shares the backcourt with. and because of the frickin' 3 guard lineups where the other guard is a 38 years old guy whose prime is way past.
give the man a SG that can get defensive duties off him and then you'll see if he still in a slump....



Or it could be old age or not being engaged as much as in previous seasons.

He's probably not finishing at the rim as well as he has even just last season.

He obviously struggled in the Lakers series when squeezed outside the arc and he couldn't dribble in and get layups like he has in the past and teams are deploying the same strategies that the Lakers used.
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Re: 1/24 Game 41 Hawks (18-25) @ Warriors (18-22) 7:00pm 

Post#195 » by jozef » Thu Jan 25, 2024 6:25 pm

Romulus wrote:
jozef wrote:Wiggins is SF and Kuminga is PF.


Is this a joke? Kerr will play anyone at any position. Curry at 2; Klay at 3; Wiggins at the 4; Draymond at the 5.

He'll play 3 guards and 4 guards at a time. He'll player whoever he wants whenever he wants. Also, keep in mind, Draymond didn't start tonight, Saric did.

Kuminga probably is the Warriors 2nd best player on the roster right now. He should be playing as much as anyone.

Enough.

Kerr often play them at wrong positions. I point to their applicable positions in an effort to beat top teams. Steph at SG is a failure, etc.
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Post#196 » by jozef » Thu Jan 25, 2024 6:40 pm

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jozef wrote:Wiggins is SF and Kuminga is PF.

I don't think this is true. Forwards have never been so positionless. Jalen Johnson guarded and got cooked by Kuminga all night and he started alongside Bey. Which of those two is the SF and which is the PF?

Kuminga and Johnson played PF. Kuminga impacts the game with his hops not outside shooting.
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Re: 1/24 Game 41 Hawks (18-25) @ Warriors (18-22) 7:00pm 

Post#197 » by DonaldSanders » Thu Jan 25, 2024 6:48 pm

wco81 wrote:
superunknown wrote:
wco81 wrote:They gave Mills and Matthews and some of their best shooters too many wide open looks.

So they had the widow of the coach who died on the bench?


One reason they’ve had a rough stretch is that Curry has been in a slump. Only 38.7/34.9/88.9 in the last 10 games and under 45% FG percentage for the season, just under 40% from 3 for the season.

Could be related to CP being injured and Dray being suspended. But too often he’s seemed too casual, thinking he could flip the switch in crunch time.

When the team was blowing 20 point leads to the Clippers, Kings, I think also OKC the last time they played them, at least he was shooting very well.


But at this point, is the team still trying to at least make the play in this season? Guess we’ll see what they do before the trade deadline. Maybe they just try to dump salary.


maybe because, at age 36, he has to work his ass off even on D because of the guy he shares the backcourt with. and because of the frickin' 3 guard lineups where the other guard is a 38 years old guy whose prime is way past.
give the man a SG that can get defensive duties off him and then you'll see if he still in a slump....



Or it could be old age or not being engaged as much as in previous seasons.

He's probably not finishing at the rim as well as he has even just last season.

He obviously struggled in the Lakers series when squeezed outside the arc and he couldn't dribble in and get layups like he has in the past and teams are deploying the same strategies that the Lakers used.



I agree Curry is showing some age, but that's why superunknown's point here is important -- we need to be putting Curry in the right spot with a defensive partner (like Klay used to be) rather than having Steph work hard. Klay is good for the bench unit, not so much pairing with Steph anymore.
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Re: 1/24 Game 41 Hawks (18-25) @ Warriors (18-22) 7:00pm 

Post#198 » by GQ Hot Dog » Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:01 pm

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wco81 wrote:
superunknown wrote:
maybe because, at age 36, he has to work his ass off even on D because of the guy he shares the backcourt with. and because of the frickin' 3 guard lineups where the other guard is a 38 years old guy whose prime is way past.
give the man a SG that can get defensive duties off him and then you'll see if he still in a slump....



Or it could be old age or not being engaged as much as in previous seasons.

He's probably not finishing at the rim as well as he has even just last season.

He obviously struggled in the Lakers series when squeezed outside the arc and he couldn't dribble in and get layups like he has in the past and teams are deploying the same strategies that the Lakers used.



I agree Curry is showing some age, but that's why superunknown's point here is important -- we need to be putting Curry in the right spot with a defensive partner (like Klay used to be) rather than having Steph work hard. Klay is good for the bench unit, not so much pairing with Steph anymore.

Klay's quickness decline has had knock-on effects all down the line. He's not able to credibly defend nearly the range of players he used to and he's not able to get open with off-ball movement like he used to, particularly against solid perimeter defending teams(of which Atl is not).
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Re: 1/24 Game 41 Hawks (18-25) @ Warriors (18-22) 7:00pm 

Post#199 » by killmongrel » Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:22 pm

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killmongrel wrote:
GQ Hot Dog wrote:Not a chance. JK gonna be a Warrior lifer!


I like Kuminga, but if Mikal is available and Dunleavy didn't make that trade, that would be a colossal blunder.


Bridges would be great if Warriors could contend with him. They can't.

He would be great if the Warriors needed a strong veteran presence. They don't.

I keep JK. Yes Bridges is better now, but he won't be better next time GS is a contender.


I'm in the camp that still believes Steph can be the best player on a championship team. So if I'm able to get a good player to help him better compete at the cost of a player who might or might not become better than that player, I'm doing it. And like I mentioned before, it's not like the Warriors are trading for a player with a few years left. We're talking about a good young player who could be part of the future core going forward.
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Re: 1/24 Game 41 Hawks (18-25) @ Warriors (18-22) 7:00pm 

Post#200 » by jozef » Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:53 pm

It's amazing that Klay's quickness decline does not restrain him to score 20 ppg at .425 3P% in January.
It's a mystery to me.
I'm in awe that people see his quickness decline. For some reason the same people consider Kevon and Dario being an appropriate athletes (and starters).
I am sorry but at least half of posters here have no idea about sports.

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