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Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player?

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Is Moody an NBA Caliber player?

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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#341 » by bay2hk » Sat Jan 6, 2024 6:56 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Kerris destroying moodys chances of a decent extension. Just wrong.


Sure, it would be wrong from Moody’s perspective but we are trying to make the playoffs. Moody hasn’t done anything to be a difference maker in winning games so it’s not on Kerr.

Warriors fan forget we tried giving Wiseman early last season and that set us back quite a bit in terms of winning. It wasn’t until we gave the minutes to deserving players we started winning
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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#342 » by WarriorGM » Sat Jan 6, 2024 7:04 am

bay2hk wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:Kerris destroying moodys chances of a decent extension. Just wrong.


Sure, it would be wrong from Moody’s perspective but we are trying to make the playoffs. Moody hasn’t done anything to be a difference maker in winning games so it’s not on Kerr.

Warriors fan forget we tried giving Wiseman early last season and that set us back quite a bit in terms of winning. It wasn’t until we gave the minutes to deserving players we started winning


Moody was the one guy on the bench who was left standing in the playoffs last year when all the other alternatives crashed in flames or were still so distrusted they weren't played.
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Post#343 » by watch1958 » Sat Jan 6, 2024 7:05 am

bay2hk wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:Kerris destroying moodys chances of a decent extension. Just wrong.


Sure, it would be wrong from Moody’s perspective but we are trying to make the playoffs. Moody hasn’t done anything to be a difference maker in winning games so it’s not on Kerr.

Warriors fan forget we tried giving Wiseman early last season and that set us back quite a bit in terms of winning. It wasn’t until we gave the minutes to deserving players we started winning
And if Moody was good he would have contributed in the playoffs.
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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#344 » by tarantism » Sat Jan 6, 2024 10:14 am

WarriorGM wrote:
bay2hk wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:Kerris destroying moodys chances of a decent extension. Just wrong.


Sure, it would be wrong from Moody’s perspective but we are trying to make the playoffs. Moody hasn’t done anything to be a difference maker in winning games so it’s not on Kerr.

Warriors fan forget we tried giving Wiseman early last season and that set us back quite a bit in terms of winning. It wasn’t until we gave the minutes to deserving players we started winning


Moody was the one guy on the bench who was left standing in the playoffs last year when all the other alternatives crashed in flames or were still so distrusted they weren't played.
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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#345 » by watch1958 » Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:09 am

bay2hk wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:Kerris destroying moodys chances of a decent extension. Just wrong.


Sure, it would be wrong from Moody’s perspective but we are trying to make the playoffs. Moody hasn’t done anything to be a difference maker in winning games so it’s not on Kerr.

Warriors fan forget we tried giving Wiseman early last season and that set us back quite a bit in terms of winning. It wasn’t until we gave the minutes to deserving players we started winning
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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#346 » by wco81 » Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:45 am

Team is playing well right now, maybe the best they have all season.

But Moody stans aren't happy, because Klay is getting more minutes than their guy.

Clearly they care more about their draft evaluations from watching Youtube than the fate of the team.

Moses is playing the most minutes of his career and is getting more shots in all categories, highest PPG and MPG. But his efficiency is down, 34.7% on 3.1 3PA per game compared to 36.3% on 2.1 3PA in his previous 2 seasons.

If only Moses was getting most of Klay's minutes or even starting, Warriors would have so many more wins!

The problem is, Moody is not a great defender like Wiggins or GP2, so he's got to be able to space the floor when he plays. Declining efficiency on greater shot attempts is not the way to do that.

Now, maybe give him 50% more minutes and he'd be at maybe 25-26 MPG. Then maybe his FGA would go up from 6.5 to around 10 and 3PA would go from 3.1 to 4.5-5.0.

Would he shoot better?

The Moody stans are calling Kerr an idiot for not playing Moody more. Are they sure he would shoot better or play better with 50% more minutes than he's getting? It would be about double the minutes he got last season.

Are they sure more minutes for Moses would result in more team wins? Or do they even care about the results for the team?

All they see are the brief stints when Moody is on the floor. Just maybe, Kerr and the coaching staff have also seen him in practice and have tape of him in games and practice, where they broke down the things he's done right and the things he needs to improve on to get a bigger role and determined that he hasn't responded to the things they want him to do.

One thing that is obvious is that he doesn't always take the shots which are created. He may not have the quick release of Klay or Curry but he's been gun shy if there's any hint of a contest.

Again, if he was a plus defender, maybe the expectations on him to shoot wouldn't be as great.


But with the current run which the team is on, strange time to complain about how minutes are being allocated. Team is not only winning but have had some easy wins, biggest margins of victory of the season. Fake Warriors fans, probably.
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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#347 » by B-King » Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:56 am

For both Moody and JK it has been difficult because their primary in front of them Klay and Wiggs have been playing like crap. The emergence of Podz sets Moody even further back. I don’t know what Moody’s ceiling is, but I always viewed him as insurance for Klay. Quinones is developing into that role.

Moody’s defensive effort is there. He just needs more game reps.

Dubs need to move him next year where he can get a chance to play. He’s the odd man out moving forward. I really wish we had used that pick on Sengun. That dude is a stud.
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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#348 » by GQ Hot Dog » Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:39 am

B-King wrote:For both Moody and JK it has been difficult because their primary in front of them Klay and Wiggs have been playing like crap. The emergence of Podz sets Moody even further back. I don’t know what Moody’s ceiling is, but I always viewed him as insurance for Klay. Quinones is developing into that role.

Moody’s defensive effort is there. He just needs more game reps.

Dubs need to move him next year where he can get a chance to play. He’s the odd man out moving forward. I really wish we had used that pick on Sengun. That dude is a stud.

Why move him? Why would you want to see him excel on another team? Let's keep him, let him play out his contract year to prove what he's worth. Klay will be a year older and probably a year worse on defense. Moody figures to continue to improve. Their careers are moving in opposite directions and Moody will catch Klay sooner or later. I want to see him earn regular minutes here and not anywhere else.
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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#349 » by B-King » Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:55 am

GQ Hot Dog wrote:
B-King wrote:For both Moody and JK it has been difficult because their primary in front of them Klay and Wiggs have been playing like crap. The emergence of Podz sets Moody even further back. I don’t know what Moody’s ceiling is, but I always viewed him as insurance for Klay. Quinones is developing into that role.

Moody’s defensive effort is there. He just needs more game reps.

Dubs need to move him next year where he can get a chance to play. He’s the odd man out moving forward. I really wish we had used that pick on Sengun. That dude is a stud.

Why move him? Why would you want to see him excel on another team? Let's keep him, let him play out his contract year to prove what he's worth. Klay will be a year older and probably a year worse on defense. Moody figures to continue to improve. Their careers are moving in opposite directions and Moody will catch Klay sooner or later. I want to see him earn regular minutes here and not anywhere else.


I like MM and viewed him as asset we shouldn’t move off of before the season. Podz and Lester Q seem to be more trusted rotation players atm. Granted Moses just returned from an injury. Let’s hope he gets a chance before the season ends.
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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#350 » by jozef » Wed Feb 14, 2024 6:25 pm

Moses is pretty good. He can play against starters.
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Post#351 » by wco81 » Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:27 am

Wow, now Quinones getting minutes over him.

Must be really screwing up in practice.
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Post#352 » by Crazy-Canuck » Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:46 am

Moody is our 2nd best non Center rebounder. We clearly lack the ability to rebound, he needs to play more.
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Post#353 » by killmongrel » Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:33 am

What could we even get in a Moody trade? Say we use CP3's salary and him? Or how about Looney's. Players in that range. The guy has no value going into the off season if Kerr doesn't play him much from here on out.
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Post#354 » by superunknown » Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:05 am

this is gettig ridiculous.
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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#355 » by billinder33 » Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:17 am

Hopefully the team is sandbagging him into a lowball 2nd contact.
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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#356 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:29 am

Moody would get minutes if Klay, Payton and Quinones were all injured.

Being slightly worse than the other guy that could play could mean sitting on the bench. Kerr seems to think Quinones is better than Moody and Quinones might be better than Moody. Quinones and Moody are probably both NBA caliber players even if they are not 7 man rotation calliber players. They are 9 man rotation caliber players.

For some reason many guys on our board think Moody is almost as good as Kuminga and that is not true.
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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#357 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Sun Feb 18, 2024 5:38 pm

Moody is an NBA caliber player but he might not be as good as Quinones, Podz and Payton so even if Klay drops dead that does not guarantee minutes for Moody.

Moody bight be 8rh or 9th man NBA caliber while Quinones, Podz and Payton are 7th or 8th man NBA caliber players. Moody better not let those guys out-hustle him.
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Post#358 » by jozef » Sun Feb 18, 2024 6:49 pm

Moody is better SG than Q on the defensive end and better SG than Podz on the offensive end. There is no reason to not play him 20+ minutes.
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Post#359 » by HiRez » Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:23 pm

I get playing Podz over Moody because he does so many different things, most of them really well. And although I think Moody should get some of Klay's minutes, I get why Klay plays. GP2 is unique and give you specialist utility that is not matched by Moody and very few in the league.

But playing Quiñones over Moody now is just pure insanity. It's Ty Jerome all over again and how did that work out? I like Quiñones but he should be strictly an emergency bench option at this point.
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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#360 » by bay2hk » Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:36 am

Only thing I can think of now is warriors is holding Moody as Klay insurance. I say best case scenario in the offseason is a desperate team such as Detroit offers Klay the max. Klay walks and Podz takes his starting spot with moody / Lester / Robinson competing for backup minutes. Lester is ahead of Moody right now because he has ball handling skills and is being evaluated for our last roster spot.

In the off season, Warriors resign CP3 with NTMLE for 2 years and sign Otto porter to replace Sario (who will get paid by another team). We extend Kuminga, cut looney, and draft a rook in the second round. This will keep us from the second tax apron next year.

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