Is Klay Thompson overrated?

[Kuya]

This is not a hate thread as I love Klay Thompson. Although, I think he's just slightly overrated and think he's on the very low end of the All-Star spectrum.

[mos_def]

I think he is good and a borderline AllStar. I just wish he did more work around the FT line cuz that is where I think he shoots best. He gets into gun mode sometimes cuz he can hit the 3 but his intermediate shot is above that, but he gets into Splash mode and then starts chucking up bad shots, IMO

[Bandito]

He has progressed every year with his overall game, he's an all star, and just turned 25. Definitely one of the best shooters in the game. He's also been tremendously durable. I wouldn't call him overrated, at all. This was a breakout year, he's top 3 in the NBA at his position.

I think he went hard all offseason and throughout the season and is understandably has been running slightly ragged as the season has worn on. But I don't think he's even hit his prime yet, great things ahead for years to come from Klay.

[and1GS]

His actual talent level is quite high but his BBIQ is still lacking. That will come in time, but that's probably why we don't view him as a AS starter caliber player.

FWIW he was absolutely white hot the first half of the season and I definitely thought he was as close to 1b for top SG in the NBA as you can get. Now Id rank him tied at two with Jimmy Butler. No doubt in my mind he improves a ton next year - guys an animal when it comes to improving his game.

[Zinger]

Is he better than Damian Lillard?

Can't believe he started ASG over Westbrook or CP3.

Curry, Paul, Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Davis, LMA, Griffin, Cousins, Gasol all are easily better than him and it's not even close. So i agree he's on the very low end of the All-Star spectrum. Wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't make it next year. I could see guys like Wiggins, Draymond or Ibaka making it over him.

That said, he's still a top 5 sg, easily.

[likashing]

I like him a lot and I see a lot of areas he can improve. It ticks off a lot of people because after Steph, Klay get a free pass around here.

For one, a great SG doesn't go 23 points on 25 shots with 0 FT in 2 finals games. Also a 9 point game on Thursday. I am one of the few who dare to mention it here. Many Klay fans see no issue about his play.

I like he is durable though. Especially on our team since we are not used to durable players. It is an aspect that gets overlooked. If you are not playing, it doesn't matter how great you are.

[donalddole]

I've always thought he was overrated. One reason I am a bit down on him is that he seems to have 1 super awesome fire game, then 2-3 lull or not that great games, mixed with some average. Too inconsistent, his fire game can win you an occasional game but the lull games hurt more.

[lars_rosenberg]

He's a little ovverrated, yes.
His standout performance made him look better than he is to the those who don't watch every Warriors game.
He's still very valuable and the perfect companion for Curry in our backcourt

[Bandito]

I like him a lot and I see a lot of areas he can improve. It ticks off a lot of people because after Steph, Klay get a free pass around here.

For one, a great SG doesn't go 23 points on 25 shots with 0 FT in 2 finals games. Also a 9 point game on Thursday. I am one of the few who dare to mention it here. Many Klay fans see no issue about his play.

I like he is durable though. Especially on our team since we are not used to durable players. It is an aspect that gets overlooked. If you are not playing, it doesn't matter how great you are.

Having some off games doesn't mean a player isn't great. People on the board seem to have a hard time soaking that in. Great players have bad games, too. This is the first time in the finals for all our youngsters. We're also over 100 games into the season, that's a hell of a workload.

You say top 5 SG. Can you name 3 you think are better than Klay? Can you even name 2 you would take over Klay going forward? He's easily a top 3 player at the SG position in the NBA, and he's still trending upward.

[Kuya]

Klay is top 3 at his position for sure, but the shooting guard position is the shallowest position in the league.

[likashing]

I like him a lot and I see a lot of areas he can improve. It ticks off a lot of people because after Steph, Klay get a free pass around here.

For one, a great SG doesn't go 23 points on 25 shots with 0 FT in 2 finals games. Also a 9 point game on Thursday. I am one of the few who dare to mention it here. Many Klay fans see no issue about his play.

I like he is durable though. Especially on our team since we are not used to durable players. It is an aspect that gets overlooked. If you are not playing, it doesn't matter how great you are.

Having some off games doesn't mean a player isn't great. People on the board seem to have a hard time soaking that in. Great players have bad games, too. This is the first time in the finals for all our youngsters. We're also over 100 games into the season, that's a hell of a workload.

You say top 5 SG. Can you name 3 you think are better than Klay? Can you even name 2 you would take over Klay going forward? He's easily a top 3 player at the SG position in the NBA, and he's still trending upward.

if you add enough qualifiers anyone can be a top player. Why do I need to play this which other SG is better game with you? He is a top 1-2 two-way SG, ya. Where does he rank as a guard? How does he rank as a wing? SG is a dying breed for a reason. You are screwed if you tie up your salary cap to a non-impact one.

He stunk it up for 2 Finals game and scored 9 freaking points the most recent game. "Just having a few off games"? You make it sound like we can have another finals shot soon. Oh it's his first finals blah blah. Exactly why I say Klay gets the pass around here. For many players, your first chance might be your final chance. We just paid $70 million and we expect more from him in critical games. I'm not saying he needs to lock down Lebron and drop 40. Just don't score 9 and try to get some FTs if your shots aren't falling. Isn't it a fair expectation?

[Bandito]

I like him a lot and I see a lot of areas he can improve. It ticks off a lot of people because after Steph, Klay get a free pass around here.

For one, a great SG doesn't go 23 points on 25 shots with 0 FT in 2 finals games. Also a 9 point game on Thursday. I am one of the few who dare to mention it here. Many Klay fans see no issue about his play.

I like he is durable though. Especially on our team since we are not used to durable players. It is an aspect that gets overlooked. If you are not playing, it doesn't matter how great you are.

Having some off games doesn't mean a player isn't great. People on the board seem to have a hard time soaking that in. Great players have bad games, too. This is the first time in the finals for all our youngsters. We're also over 100 games into the season, that's a hell of a workload.

You say top 5 SG. Can you name 3 you think are better than Klay? Can you even name 2 you would take over Klay going forward? He's easily a top 3 player at the SG position in the NBA, and he's still trending upward.

if you add enough qualifiers anyone can be a top player. Why do I need to play this which other SG is better game with you? He is a top 1-2 two-way SG, ya. Where does he rank as a guard? How does he rank as a wing? SG is a dying breed for a reason. You are screwed if you tie up your salary cap to a non-impact one.

He stunk it up for 2 Finals game and scored 9 freaking points the most recent game. "Just having a few off games"? You make it sound like we can have another finals shot soon. Oh it's his first finals blah blah. Exactly why I say Klay gets the pass around here. For many players, your first chance might be your final chance. We just paid $70 million and we expect more from him in critical games. I'm not saying he needs to lock down Lebron and drop 40. Just don't score 9 and try to get some FTs if your shots aren't falling. Isn't it a fair expectation?

You keep mentioning the 9 points in game 4, but we won by 20 and Klays defense was a big part of that. Delly and Smith combined for 5/26 shooting and 2/17 on 3's, Klay had a +15 for the game.

No need for extra "qualifiers"...I'm talking the best shooting guards in the NBA. All of a sudden ranking players by position is "extra qualifiers"? Lol.

And even funnier is that you, yourself, called him a "top 5 SG", so you're using the same qualifiers I am. How about some support for your case instead of back peddling? All I asked was for you to name 3 better 2's in the NBA.

[Bandito]

As far as getting to the line more often, I guess you failed to notice that the Warriors plan in game 4 was to keep the tempo up to their advantage. You're asking Klay to slow down the game by getting to the line more often. Not a terribly bright take.

[likashing]

As far as getting to the line more often, I guess you failed to notice that the Warriors plan in game 4 was to keep the tempo up to their advantage. You're asking Klay to slow down the game by getting to the line more often. Not a terribly bright take.

Does Klay get to the line when the game is slower? He sucks at it.

[Bandito]

Klay is top 3 at his position for sure, but the shooting guard position is the shallowest position in the league.

I'd argue there's better depth of talent in the NBA at SG than there is at center in today's NBA. Regardless, being the 2nd best player at your position in the NBA means you're a deserving all-star.

22 PPG on 46/43/88 approx %'s, combined with very good perimeter D at age 24/25...that's a great player.

[likashing]

Having some off games doesn't mean a player isn't great. People on the board seem to have a hard time soaking that in. Great players have bad games, too. This is the first time in the finals for all our youngsters. We're also over 100 games into the season, that's a hell of a workload.

You say top 5 SG. Can you name 3 you think are better than Klay? Can you even name 2 you would take over Klay going forward? He's easily a top 3 player at the SG position in the NBA, and he's still trending upward.

if you add enough qualifiers anyone can be a top player. Why do I need to play this which other SG is better game with you? He is a top 1-2 two-way SG, ya. Where does he rank as a guard? How does he rank as a wing? SG is a dying breed for a reason. You are screwed if you tie up your salary cap to a non-impact one.

He stunk it up for 2 Finals game and scored 9 freaking points the most recent game. "Just having a few off games"? You make it sound like we can have another finals shot soon. Oh it's his first finals blah blah. Exactly why I say Klay gets the pass around here. For many players, your first chance might be your final chance. We just paid $70 million and we expect more from him in critical games. I'm not saying he needs to lock down Lebron and drop 40. Just don't score 9 and try to get some FTs if your shots aren't falling. Isn't it a fair expectation?

You keep mentioning the 9 points in game 4, but we won by 20 and Klays defense was a big part of that. Delly and Smith combined for 5/26 shooting and 2/17 on 3's, Klay had a +15 for the game.

No need for extra "qualifiers"...I'm talking the best shooting guards in the NBA. All of a sudden ranking players by position is "extra qualifiers"? Lol.

And even funnier is that you, yourself, called him a "top 5 SG", so you're using the same qualifiers I am. How about some support for your case instead of back peddling? All I asked was for you to name 3 better 2's in the NBA.

If you shoot well and can either handle or pass well, SGs can be a big PG. If he doesn't only just shoot and is atheletic and can defend strong wings, he can be a SF. Do you notice teams are built around all-around wings (SF) and PGs who can do more than one of score/pass/handle/rebound and play 3 and D SG? Because it's harsh to say but it's true that players are SG because they can only do certain things well. Klay shoots great and defend well on the ball much better than a typical 3-D guy and he's immediately a top 2 SG. but that's also because he cant rebound to save his life and his handle sucks and doesn't assist. There's a reason SG is a shallow position.

Ya I call him a top SG, but if he's not doing more than guarding JR I expect him to be better on offense. You get what I mean don't you? You don't think that's a fair expection?

If he shoots better in Game 3 - well I have to dwell on his shooting because other than on-ball D that's all Klay does - we wouldn't be 2-2 as of now.

[Bandito]

As far as getting to the line more often, I guess you failed to notice that the Warriors plan in game 4 was to keep the tempo up to their advantage. You're asking Klay to slow down the game by getting to the line more often. Not a terribly bright take.

Does Klay get to the line when the game is slower? He sucks at it.

Looking at a solid sample size...Klay has improved at getting to the line each year in the league, and he made a pretty substantial jump from 13/14 to 14/15. That's not a huge part of his game, never will be, because we simply don't need that from him very often. Our offense is about moving the ball and getting open looks, not putting Klay in ISO and trying to get him to the free throw line.

[likashing]

See Klay has fanatic fanbois defending all aspects of his deficiencies.

[likashing]

As far as getting to the line more often, I guess you failed to notice that the Warriors plan in game 4 was to keep the tempo up to their advantage. You're asking Klay to slow down the game by getting to the line more often. Not a terribly bright take.

Does Klay get to the line when the game is slower? He sucks at it.

Looking at a solid sample size...Klay has improved at getting to the line each year in the league, and he made a pretty substantial jump from 13/14 to 14/15. That's not a huge part of his game, never will be, because we simply don't need that from him very often. Our offense is about moving the ball and getting open looks, not putting Klay in ISO and trying to get him to the free throw line.

Even Klay himself admitted he needs to work on getting FTs. You approved it's not needed.

Getting more FT is ISO? Your blindily defending him is getting weirder by the minute. How about him mixing up chucking vs taking it to the hole off a curl, and try to sell some contact on the move? How's that ISO? He just chucks. That's why he is on and off on offense. Because he's a one-tricky pony on offense.

I see how he can improve. You say why he doesn't need to because that skill set is not needed.

[likashing]

This is not a hate thread as I love Klay Thompson. Although, I think he's just slightly overrated and think he's on the very low end of the All-Star spectrum.

Yes.