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I can't even. Forget everything I thought I knew about his FO. They are just as stupid as the rest of the GMs I make fun of.
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if we give Barnes 20m and batum is 24m... i dont know what to say.. i think we put everything on hope to sign durant and ignore all other options.
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Can we save the whining till AFTER we give Barnes 20m+?
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azwfan wrote:Can we save the whining till AFTER we give Barnes 20m+?
Plenty of time to do it then as well.
I'm simply saying, for a front office who projects itself as being so cutting edge and head and shoulders above the rest this would completely disprove that and show we are just as stupid as a lot of the teams I previously felt comfortable talking down to. Anyone that has closely watched HB's career and views him as a player worthy of that much of the cap is not someone I am comfortable making decisions for my team. Whoever it is in the FO that supports the kid, be it West or Myers or both, this is enough for me to seriously question their ability to judge basketball value provided by a player. It makes me feel like a lot of what we've found here (Curry, Draymond) may have just been lucky and we will be incredibly lucky to sustain championship caliber success while doing things like maxing out Harrison f'n Barnes
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In which case I hope the Solomon Hill rumors are true. I'd rather Hill for 13-14mil.
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Anyone on a deal that is actually closer to their value is better than Barnes for the max. We were undefeated w/ Rush starting and Rush had a better net rating with the other starters than Barnes did this season. Let that sink in. Brandon. Rush.TylerTurban wrote:In which case I hope the Solomon Hill rumors are true. I'd rather Hill for 13-14mil.
If Rush can out perform Barnes in this starting lineup than who can't? Hill certainly could, and for 10-12m cheaper we can sign 1, hell maybe 2 veterans who want to play for a ring. or if we move Bogut we could wind up getting a big C upgrade with the money saved ie Pau or Horford
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East Bay Sports wrote:azwfan wrote:Can we save the whining till AFTER we give Barnes 20m+?
Plenty of time to do it then as well.
I'm simply saying, for a front office who projects itself as being so cutting edge and head and shoulders above the rest this would completely disprove that and show we are just as stupid as a lot of the teams I previously felt comfortable talking down to. Anyone that has closely watched HB's career and views him as a player worthy of that much of the cap is not someone I am comfortable making decisions for my team. Whoever it is in the FO that supports the kid, be it West or Myers or both, this is enough for me to seriously question their ability to judge basketball value provided by a player. It makes me feel like a lot of what we've found here (Curry, Draymond) may have just been lucky and we will be incredibly lucky to sustain championship caliber success while doing things like maxing out Harrison f'n Barnes
The point is you're getting all worked up BEFORE there is even a reason to get worked up. Nothing has happened yet.
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East Bay Sports wrote:Anyone on a deal that is actually closer to their value is better than Barnes for the max. We were undefeated w/ Rush starting and Rush had a better net rating with the other starters than Barnes did this season. Let that sink in. Brandon. Rush.TylerTurban wrote:In which case I hope the Solomon Hill rumors are true. I'd rather Hill for 13-14mil.
If Rush can out perform Barnes in this starting lineup than who can't? Hill certainly could, and for 10-12m cheaper we can sign 1, hell maybe 2 veterans who want to play for a ring. or if we move Bogut we could wind up getting a big C upgrade with the money saved ie Pau or Horford
I agree. Our focus should be on improving our bigs. I don't see Barnes as a difficult player to replace.
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azwfan wrote:East Bay Sports wrote:azwfan wrote:Can we save the whining till AFTER we give Barnes 20m+?
Plenty of time to do it then as well.
I'm simply saying, for a front office who projects itself as being so cutting edge and head and shoulders above the rest this would completely disprove that and show we are just as stupid as a lot of the teams I previously felt comfortable talking down to. Anyone that has closely watched HB's career and views him as a player worthy of that much of the cap is not someone I am comfortable making decisions for my team. Whoever it is in the FO that supports the kid, be it West or Myers or both, this is enough for me to seriously question their ability to judge basketball value provided by a player. It makes me feel like a lot of what we've found here (Curry, Draymond) may have just been lucky and we will be incredibly lucky to sustain championship caliber success while doing things like maxing out Harrison f'n Barnes
The point is you're getting all worked up BEFORE there is even a reason to get worked up. Nothing has happened yet.
True. We're balls deep in a meeting with KD right now according to David Aldridge. I'm not a religious man but I'm going to go pray to Joe Pesci
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I would pay DWade the max over Barnes in a millisecond
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Be glad he is not getting $128m / 5 like Beal which Barnes is eligible for.
The max we might need to match is shorter with lower raise - ~$94m / 4
Odd chance we get a discount for $80m / 4
Look at the bright side.
The max we might need to match is shorter with lower raise - ~$94m / 4
Odd chance we get a discount for $80m / 4
Look at the bright side.
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KayZee wrote:I would pay DWade the max over Barnes in a millisecond
Agreed, then move Klay to small forward.
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East Bay Sports wrote:azwfan wrote:Can we save the whining till AFTER we give Barnes 20m+?
Plenty of time to do it then as well.
I'm simply saying, for a front office who projects itself as being so cutting edge and head and shoulders above the rest this would completely disprove that and show we are just as stupid as a lot of the teams I previously felt comfortable talking down to. Anyone that has closely watched HB's career and views him as a player worthy of that much of the cap is not someone I am comfortable making decisions for my team. Whoever it is in the FO that supports the kid, be it West or Myers or both, this is enough for me to seriously question their ability to judge basketball value provided by a player. It makes me feel like a lot of what we've found here (Curry, Draymond) may have just been lucky and we will be incredibly lucky to sustain championship caliber success while doing things like maxing out Harrison f'n Barnes
So you'll be whining and crying like you have been all year even though we won 73 games. Sweet, this should be fun
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azwfan wrote:East Bay Sports wrote:Anyone on a deal that is actually closer to their value is better than Barnes for the max. We were undefeated w/ Rush starting and Rush had a better net rating with the other starters than Barnes did this season. Let that sink in. Brandon. Rush.TylerTurban wrote:In which case I hope the Solomon Hill rumors are true. I'd rather Hill for 13-14mil.
If Rush can out perform Barnes in this starting lineup than who can't? Hill certainly could, and for 10-12m cheaper we can sign 1, hell maybe 2 veterans who want to play for a ring. or if we move Bogut we could wind up getting a big C upgrade with the money saved ie Pau or Horford
I agree. Our focus should be on improving our bigs. I don't see Barnes as a difficult player to replace.
Ok then. Who should we sign and for how much?
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Black Falcon wrote:azwfan wrote:East Bay Sports wrote:Anyone on a deal that is actually closer to their value is better than Barnes for the max. We were undefeated w/ Rush starting and Rush had a better net rating with the other starters than Barnes did this season. Let that sink in. Brandon. Rush.
If Rush can out perform Barnes in this starting lineup than who can't? Hill certainly could, and for 10-12m cheaper we can sign 1, hell maybe 2 veterans who want to play for a ring. or if we move Bogut we could wind up getting a big C upgrade with the money saved ie Pau or Horford
I agree. Our focus should be on improving our bigs. I don't see Barnes as a difficult player to replace.
Ok then. Who should we sign and for how much?
Posted it a ton of times. If Durant says no, then Horford (max) - then Gasol.
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Black Falcon wrote:azwfan wrote:East Bay Sports wrote:Anyone on a deal that is actually closer to their value is better than Barnes for the max. We were undefeated w/ Rush starting and Rush had a better net rating with the other starters than Barnes did this season. Let that sink in. Brandon. Rush.
If Rush can out perform Barnes in this starting lineup than who can't? Hill certainly could, and for 10-12m cheaper we can sign 1, hell maybe 2 veterans who want to play for a ring. or if we move Bogut we could wind up getting a big C upgrade with the money saved ie Pau or Horford
I agree. Our focus should be on improving our bigs. I don't see Barnes as a difficult player to replace.
Ok then. Who should we sign and for how much?
Ian Mahinmi or Pau Gasol would be atop my list.
As for a Barnes replacement, I'd aim for Allen Crabbe, Marvin Williams, Moe Harkless or even Matt Barnes. I wouldn't pay any of these guys more than 14-15mil per.
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Hill signing $52M/4 in NO by the way.
And rumor is Portland is going after Gasol.
I hope Durant makes up his mind fast or we're going to be left with limited choices. Then again, some of these contracts are insane right now, so maybe Durant holding everything up is saving us from some bad decisions.
And rumor is Portland is going after Gasol.
I hope Durant makes up his mind fast or we're going to be left with limited choices. Then again, some of these contracts are insane right now, so maybe Durant holding everything up is saving us from some bad decisions.
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HiRez wrote:Hill signing $52M/4 in NO by the way.
And rumor is Portland is going after Gasol.
I hope Durant makes up his mind fast or we're going to be left with limited choices.
Durant won't make his decision at least until Monday probably.
I hope they're in contact with other players as well, and aren't putting all of their eggs in the Durant basket.
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azwfan wrote:Can we save the whining till AFTER we give Barnes 20m+?
lol. when I read the thread I thought we DID give Barnes the 20mil. I was checking every news outlet I could find
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TylerTurban wrote:
As for a Barnes replacement, I'd aim for Allen Crabbe, Marvin Williams, Moe Harkless or even Matt Barnes. I wouldn't pay any of these guys more than 14-15mil per.
At the rate teams are paying for nobodies, all the people you mentioned are going to get at least 14 million...and that is crazy
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